Novel Lucerne [Under Construction]

[bic 111]

Novel Lucerne

 

 

GDC Properties, on behalf of Orlando Health, requests a Planned Development amendment to the Columbia Park Medical Center PD. This amendment would allow for the redevelopment of the Lucerne Hospital property with a mixed-use project consisting of a 200 room hotel, several low- and mid-rise residential buildings with 660 dwelling units, 80,000 sq. ft. of commercial space, 60,000 sq. ft. of office space, and 1,137 parking spaces within three parking garages.

 

 

The +/- 10.7-acre subject property is spread over three blocks on the north side of Gore Street, between Orange Avenue and Lucerne Terrace. It is currently developed with the 233,000 sq. ft. Lucerne Medical Hospital facility, consisting of the three story Lucerne Medical building, three story medical facility, two story office building and parking lot. The property is currently developed with a 139,046 sq. ft. Lucerne Medical Building, a 94,934 sq. ft. medical facility, a 9,940 sq. ft. office building and associated surface parking.

 

Lucerne Promenade is proposed as a two-phased project with the following development program:

 

Phase 1:

• Parcels 1 and 2, between Kuhl Ave. and Orange Ave.
• Residential: 252 multi-family dwelling units in a four-story building along the central promenade. Vehicular access (drop off) will be from Main Lane. Pedestrian access will be from the promenade. There will be an amenity area on top of the third floor. Residential units will also be atop the commercial buildings along Orange Avenue and lining the front of the parking garage between Kuhl Ave. and Main Ln.
• Office: 60,000 sq. ft. office along Gore St., within a three-story commercial building, with pedestrian access from the promenade.
• Commercial: 80,000 sq. ft. within all buildings along Orange Ave and wrapping to the west along Gore St. on both sides of Main Lane. A grocery store is envisioned at the corner of Orange Ave. and Gore St.
• Hotel: 200 hotel rooms within a ten-story, 132 ft. tall hotel at the north end of parcel 1, along Lucerne Circle. A vehicular drop off will occur at Main Lane.
• Promenade (outdoor civic/plaza): The backbone of Lucerne Promenade will be the 55,000 sq. ft. central walkway, stretch- ing from Lucerne Circle south to a fountain, then west through parcel 2 and into parcel 3 (part of Phase 2).
• Parking: 643 spaces within a five level parking garage on the north end of parcel 2.

Phase 2:

• Parcel 3, between Lucerne Terr. and Kuhl Ave.
• Residential: 400 multi-family dwelling units within four mid rise (+/- 45-56 ft. tall) buildings oriented around a fountain, including parking garage lined with residential, facing promenade
• Promenade: Additional 25,000 sq. ft. continuation of the walkway, terminating at Gore St.
• Office: 1,000 sq. ft.
• Parking: 494 spaces within a five level parking garage at northeast corner of the block. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[alex 687]

I really like the redistribution of units from the tower to Orange Avenue.  Makes it much more urban and will create a more intimate pedestrian street (a first for Orlando?).  Still, there's a disconnect between those units and Orange Ave because of the semi-underground parking.

 

But, to have two grocery stores with apartments on top is a pretty big deal for a downtown our size. 

[cwetteland 290]

Agree on the redistribution of apartments. The residential tower would be nice also, but between plan A and plan B, I'll take plan B.  The interior promenade is nice.  I like how it winds around to connect phase I and phase II, but it seems isolated from the non-locals.  Something needs to be tweaked to bring in outside patrons.

[prahaboheme 1669]

I too like this. Talk about transformative potential for the southern gateway into downtown. As much as I liked the height of the original proposal, I felt like it was a "Miami template" stamped upon Orlando. This rendition speaks volumes to where Orlando has come and is going in terms of scalable development that will actually compliment the surrounding neighborhood. Where the Princeton in College Park gets it wrong, this development seems to gets it right. I'd say this is a testament to how the developer, GDC (ie NORA) understands Orlando and it's Main Street neighborhood approach, whereas Pollack (the Princeton, Steelhouse) has a tendency to slap a generic "anywhere" design upon the neighborhood. Note: I don't agree with the anti-development NIMBYs in CP, although I do think they could have fought to influence better design over NO development.

Edited December 15, 2014 by prahaboheme

[Jernigan 2652]

The grocery will be a nice amenity for north Delaney Park/Lake Cherokee residents as well as the residents in the towers around Lucerne who a able bodied. SoDo is a bit of a walk for that area north of the hospital.

[sunshine 626]

A: "I want to build an iconic tower for my project and extend the Orlando skyline."

B:"That will cost you x amount of money and you cant charge any more rents. How about we re-distribute the apartments and build them with wood? Then you can still charge a lot of rents.They did it at the other hospital"

A:"But I want to do something special."

B:"This is Orlando"

A:"OK"

[cwetteland 290]

A: "I want to build an iconic tower for my project and extend the Orlando skyline."

B:"That will cost you x amount of money and you cant charge any more rents. How about we re-distribute the apartments and build them with wood? Then you can still charge a lot of rents.They did it at the other hospital"

A:"But I want to do something special."

B:"This is Orlando"

A:"OK"

There was nothing iconic or special about that tower.  It was a meh tower tucked behind the most cold, uninspired, suburban-looking, one-story buildings. Orange Ave south would have an even less urban, lived in feel than it has today.

 

This IS Orlando.  What makes Orlando special is all the "villages" and "districts" filled with cafes, clubs, and most importantly - people.  Bringing the people down to the street, and out to the curb, gives this area a much more village feel, and could kick off the start of Lucerne Village as a bookend to Ivanhoe Village.  The most important impact of the redistribution is not what it did to the tower, but what it did to the other buildings fronting Orange and Gore.

[aleonrivera 56]

The southbound side of Orange Ave needs to have the same sidewalk as the north bound side over Lake Lucerne to truly bridge the gap between the CBD and this project. That will make a huge difference. 

[RedStar25 312]

A: "I want to build an iconic tower for my project and extend the Orlando skyline."

B:"That will cost you x amount of money and you cant charge any more rents. How about we re-distribute the apartments and build them with wood? Then you can still charge a lot of rents.They did it at the other hospital"

A:"But I want to do something special."

B:"This is Orlando"

A:"OK"

 

And the award for consistent complaining and assumption making goes to.... 

[neoanderz 42]

This project looks exciting to me and the biggest question on my mind is which grocery store will go there.  Fresh market, publix/greenwise, whole foods.  Whole foods is doing a downtown Miami location so maybe they would be interested in this downtown spot.

[nite owℓ 1012]

The demolition has started on the main Lucerne Pavillion building (the Phase 1 parcel). The annex building is expected to close at the end of the first quarter of 2015. We'll see...

 

 

[RedStar25 312]

I am so excited to have this project being build next door (I live in mid-century glory). However I am glad I do not face east and I am worried about the construction noise/traffic. 

[jrs2 2380]

If demolition is now, when will they break ground on this thing's Phase I?

[RedStar25 312]

They have started demoing the parking lot and a large pile of sand in on the site. Yesterday I saw several very nice cars and men in a lively discussion looking and pointing at the progress. 

[nite owℓ 1012]

They have started demoing the parking lot and a large pile of sand in on the site. Yesterday I saw several very nice cars and men in a lively discussion looking and pointing at the progress. 

 

You recently moved dt, right? How do you like your new digs?

[jrs2 2380]

^^

I noticed the demo as well.  I wonder what the timetable is for construction.

[RedStar25 312]

You recently moved dt, right? How do you like your new digs?

 

It's amazing. Thank you. 

[cwetteland 290]

Project Nixed!

[mcn11 40]

Damn. I was looking forward to this one. Hopefully something else comes along soon.

[JFW657 4542]

Look for a six to eight story building the entire length of the property with a parking garage on the back side.

 

Will resemble 420 Church St, The Sevens, Steel House, Central Station etc., etc., etc.

 

Might have a visor on it. 

 

[jack 391]

None of those four buildings are similar to each other. Maybe 420 and the the Sevens. All four have different architects. 

[Jernigan 2652]

I was more excited about the general redevelopment than the project itself. Hopefully this ties in to the other thread about Crottys comments on Downtown South and we see something grand.

[Pete C 138]

And all of those projects are more attractive than the Lucerne renderings IMO. I thought it looked ugly. I kept waiting for an updated rendering, but nothing came.

[alex 687]

I was always a little wary about the half-underground parking.  As much as I love pedestrian streets, steps up to retail, especially hidden from the street, is always hard to pull off.  Hopefully we'll see something at-grade with a nice wide sidewalk and parking that's hidden a little better.  I would be disappointed if they got rid of the grocery store, though.

[nite owℓ 1012]

Pic and an update:

 

Lucerne before

 

Lucerne after

 

Orlando Health Contracts to Redevelop Lucerne Pavilion Property

 

"Orlando Health is pleased to announce that a joint venture between CNL Commercial Real Estate and Crescent Communities, led by Crescent as the managing member, is under contract to purchase and redevelop the former Lucerne Pavilion property located at the intersection of Orange Avenue and Gore Street. The transaction is expected to close in the spring of 2016."

 

 

 

 

Edited May 10, 2015 by nite owℓ