Crescent Stonewall Station

[Guest]

Just now, Cadi40 said:

I apologize I don't know why I didn't think that in the first place 

LOL, its cool.

[CLTranspo]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article179561076.html

this sounds promising! One pro among the more obvious cons of building gigantic parking decks along the light rail

[HighRiseHillbilly]

2 hours ago, CLTranspo said:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article179561076.html

this sounds promising! One pro among the more obvious cons of building gigantic parking decks along the light rail

I hope it looks nice. For some reason, all I can imagine is pinwheels cut from soda cans or something incredibly bland.

Side note: I have long wished they'd paint replicas or something resembling Romare Bearden's art on the Charlotte Chamber parking deck facing that park.

[KJHburg]

About the largest art installation in Charlotte on the side of the parking garage of Stonewall Station http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article179561076.html

[KJHburg]

Stonewall Station today sorry for the glare these sunny Carolina days! 

[KulBC]

& 50 Shades of Beige continues...

[KJHburg]

Forgot I took these on Monday.  Still a great project no matter what shade of beige it is.  This was an old nightclub site and parking lot. 

[Guest]

On 10/31/2017 at 8:11 PM, KulBC said:

& 50 Shades of Beige continues...

I quite literally hate this building. This is turning out just as badly as I imagined. Its a building of awkward elbows, elevations and overall design. Its an atrocity. I hate superblocks and this is quiet easily the worst offender of a superblock in city history. I don't think a fancy installation can save it.

• I don't think it needed a 1,350 space deck, and even if it did, just bury 3 floors worth the size of the entire site. It gives you so much for flexibility with the site. They could have had their 500 apartments, 90,000 of retail, and 300 hotel rooms, and then way more public space facing stonewall, in addition to the transit plaza. Who else in the country tries to throw all these uses into a massive stick built structure with a small concrete appendage grafted on.
• They proportion of this building is just so ominous and foreboding in stature. Not enough of the building is going to be hidden by equally as ugly hotels. Its just quite simply the worst high rise project in Charlotte history.
• This will be one of the hardest to navigate buildings out there. If you are driving its easy to get to your apartment, if you are walking you have to take dozens of twists and turns, unless you are in the high rise. 
• Its so popular to make fun of things for being beige in Charlotte. Its been written about by every single media outlet in Charlotte, and is all over social media. How can you be so out of touch to just go ahead and make the building beige despite every metric telling you otherwise. I'm starting to wonder if a local company accidentally made 4000% too much beige and is having to sell it at 5 cents on the dollar.

I could continue this rant but I wont. Sorry to my friends at Crescent that will surely read this.

[elrodvt]

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Who else in the country tries to throw all these uses into a massive stick built structure with a small concrete appendage grafted on.

Maybe many places where there is no public input and seemingly very little government control? Serious question.

[15895]

I personally like it a lot. Just the front portion of the high rise doesn’t look stellar but you’re not going to notice at all in person unless looking at it from Hornets stadium 

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

On 10/31/2017 at 9:19 PM, KJHburg said:

Forgot I took these on Monday.  Still a great project no matter what shade of beige it is.  This was an old nightclub site and parking lot. 

 

RIP Club Crush...the days before the Epicentre was even built lol.  The project does look a little better in person imo, along with its sheer presence from 277/stonewall.  I personally would like it a lot better (also think it would fix the stubby look of the project) if the tower portion was at least 8-10 stories taller.  But to RDF's point of the parking deck...is the deck that big bc it will be supporting both hotels (along with Whole foods and all the apartments)?  

Edited November 2, 2017 by CharlotteWkndBuzz

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1 hour ago, AirNostrumMAD said:

I personally like it a lot. Just the front portion of the high rise doesn’t look stellar but you’re not going to notice at all in person unless looking at it from Hornets stadium 

You like it from South End:-o???

59 minutes ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

RIP Club Crush...the days before the Epicentre was even built lol.  The project does look a little better in person imo, along with its sheer presence from 277/stonewall.  I personally would like it a lot better (also think it would fix the stubby look of the project) if the tower portion was at least 8-10 stories taller.  But to RDF's point of the parking deck...is the deck that big bc it will be supporting both hotels (along with Whole foods and all the apartments)?  

Its that big because of Whole Foods for the most part.

Edited November 2, 2017 by Guest

[tarwater]

Everything is temporary. The garage will be converted to another use in 10 years, when we no longer need parking spaces. 

[SgtCampsalot]

6 minutes ago, tarwater said:

Everything is temporary. The garage will be converted to another use in 10 years, when we no longer need parking spaces. 

Have we seen examples in the US of parking garages being converted into anything other than ground floor retail?

[tarwater]

2 minutes ago, SgtCampsalot said:

Have we seen examples in the US of parking garages being converted into anything other than ground floor retail?

Err, not that I know of. I have seen several examples of garages being built recently with a future conversion in mind. I doubt our developers have that foresight though (which makes no sense to me). Inclined floors complicate things quite a bit I imagine... Necessity is the mother of invention though. Something will be done. 

[HighRiseHillbilly]

It does look a little better in person. That picture makes it look like some sinister, broke down torture facility. I definitely wish it had more color. Makes me wonder what kind of conversations these people are having about their developments. Perhaps they shouldn't be permitted to build in the community if they're not going to listen to and enhance the community. 

[dylansukkert]

Any word when we will start to see the Home2 Suites going up? Driving towards uptown on South Blvd over 277 will have a nice canyon feel once it gets going and Northwood Ravin  gets some good height to it. Hopefully the lot at Caldwell and Stonewall is next to be developed.

[15895]

1 hour ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

You like it from South End:-o???

 

It looks awesome from South End and it looks great coming on from 277.  Its just the front portion of the upper tower portion I have a problem with. 

 

(The worst offender in uptown has to be the back of Trademark for one of the worst buildings built recently)

[Durhamite]

1 hour ago, AirNostrumMAD said:

It looks awesome from South End and it looks great coming on from 277.  Its just the front portion of the upper tower portion I have a problem with. 

 

(The worst offender in uptown has to be the back of Trademark for one of the worst buildings built recently)

Down there this weekend, it's big.  I don't have a problem with it but a different color scheme would've nice or solid brick.  Is there a law against using brick in uptown?   I have to agree with the elodrvt guy, Charlotte seems a bit loose with allowing suburban type designs in uptown, especially some of the hotels, however the office buildings seemingly have received better treatment which is a glaring difference.  Uptown should be sacred ground no matter if it takes 100 years to replace urban renewal.   And allowing shoddy backsides on buildings like Trademark should be banned.  I don't think this would've been allowed in Durham, Gboro, Raleigh or Winston.  

I like the way that one side abuts the train station, that's cool and definitely big cityish.  Lol, all that negativity but on a positive note, it's creating density and creating additional vibrancy uptown which is more important than nitpicking about design flaws.  If the city gets dense enough, I don't think anyone will care in 25-30 years.  

I like that big thing though....maybe black and silver (panthers) or hornets green, I'd gone for that look. 

 

[tozmervo]

13 hours ago, SgtCampsalot said:

Have we seen examples in the US of parking garages being converted into anything other than ground floor retail?

In a student thesis. Does that count?

Garages have super-deep floor plates (read: no access to daylight), are often mostly sloped, have column grids that are difficult to adapt to human use, and would require structural upgrades to be used as industrial or warehouse space. It's like when a garage is converted into a bonus room at a house. You always know it was a garage to begin with. 

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I'm still a fan of what I imagine the finished block will look like.  It's not done and it's too early to condemn it.  

[videtur quam contuor]

 

 

 

Walking from Dilworth to the Auto Show at the Convention Center: The hotel area for Stonewall Center. Waste pipes? Fire Supply?

 

This is the Stonewall facade and I rather like the wood(?) siding. It appeals to my eye and is different that any other building. This siding is above the street entrance and below the brown brick of the residences.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2017 by tarhoosier

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2 minutes ago, tarhoosier said:

 

 

 

Walking from Dilworth to the Auto Show at the Convention Center: The hotel area for Stonewall Center. Waste pipes? Fire Supply?

 

This is the Stonewall facade and I rather like the wood(?) siding. It appeals to my eye and is different that any other building. This siding is above the street entrance and below the brown brick of the residences.

 

 

okay. I need to walk by this weekend when I'm in town. All I see detail-free blank facades. yuck. Need to see in person before I make any more judges.

[tozmervo]

1 hour ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

okay. I need to walk by this weekend when I'm in town. All I see detail-free blank facades. yuck. Need to see in person before I make any more judges.

That's where the giant big box store signs go. 

 

1 hour ago, tarhoosier said:

Walking from Dilworth to the Auto Show at the Convention Center: The hotel area for Stonewall Center. Waste pipes? Fire Supply?

I thiiiiink what you're seeing are caissons for building foundations. Basically they stick a tube in the earth then fill it with concrete. It's a little hard to tell in the photo, though. 

[AP3]

Noticed the EVEN Hotel now has a project in Acella. Looks like it will be 10 stories. I️ thought this was going to be taller than the Home2Suites?


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