Church Street Plaza | 28-Story Office/Hotel [Phase 1 Under Construction]

[RedStar25]

Shouldn't the cranes be raised sometime soon?

[JFW657]

Does look to be getting close...

[Jernigan]

Glimpse of the future...

[codypet]

Wow that deck on the 408/I-4 is flying!

[HankStrong]

Flying at a snail's pace over the last 15 years!

[spenser1058]

2 minutes ago, HankStrong said:

Flying at a snail's pace over the last 15 years!

I was stunned this morning at how long it had taken to look much different and now all of a sudden *BAM* it's huge!

[Dale]

I realize this is hemlock for urbanists, but that interchange is going to be an attraction in itself.

[sunshine]

So much land being wasted with these highways.. lets hope there are extensive landscaping plan to hide them as much as we can.

[spenser1058]

31 minutes ago, Dale said:

I realize this is hemlock for urbanists, but that interchange is going to be an attraction in itself.

The interchange does go a long way to make our downtown look more like a typically successful Sunbelt city. Those who bemoan our lack of height downtown should consider this a heckuva consolation prize.

 

[Ivanhoe]

5 minutes ago, spenser1058 said:

The interchange does go a long way to make our downtown look more like a typically successful Sunbelt city. Those who bemoan our lack of height downtown should consider this a heckuva consolation prize.

 

The loss of Anderson as a downtown street over the last decade continues bother me. 

I must agree with sunshine on this - a massive amount of wasted space by FDOT. 

[Dale]

Well, given that the VAST majority prefer to drive ...

[spenser1058]

9 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said:

The loss of Anderson as a downtown street over the last decade continues bother me. 

I must agree with sunshine on this - a massive amount of wasted space by FDOT. 

Where did Anderson go? I drove on it this morning from Division to Rosalind. I'm confused -  are you talking about the exit from I4 ?

[Ivanhoe]

43 minutes ago, spenser1058 said:

Where did Anderson go? I drove on it this morning from Division to Rosalind. I'm confused -  are you talking about the exit from I4 ?

Anderson is a victim of progress. When was the last time you walked down it?

Instead of making it more urban, it’s become more hostile for pedestrians as a result of the ultimate I-4 redesign.

Edited August 22, 2018 by Ivanhoe

[spenser1058]

10 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said:

Anderson is a victim of progress. When was the last time you walked down it?

Instead of making it more urban, it’s become more hostile for pedestrians as a result of the ultimate I-4 redesign.

Anderson St.? Apparently, we have very different memories. I don't recall it being anything but an autocentric racetrack since it was made a one-way pair with South St in the '60's and especially once construction of the East-West began in the early '70's. Obviously, I'm missing something.

As someone who walks almost everywhere downtown from the Y on Mills to Hamburger Mary's on W. Church St. (I live on Eola Dr.,) I'm all about ped-friendly streets. I can't recall Anderson St. being one of those in my lifetime.

[Ivanhoe]

44 minutes ago, spenser1058 said:

Anderson St.? Apparently, we have very different memories. I don't recall it being anything but an autocentric racetrack since it was made a one-way pair with South St in the '60's and especially once construction of the East-West began in the early '70's. Obviously, I'm missing something.

As someone who walks almost everywhere downtown from the Y on Mills to Hamburger Mary's on W. Church St. (I live on Eola Dr.,) I'm all about ped-friendly streets. I can't recall Anderson St. being one of those in my lifetime.

I’m just suggesting it’s gone from bad to worse. A concept surely you can understand. This is hardly a controversial opinion.

[HankStrong]

Probably more like worse to worsteresterest

[jgardnerucf]

3pm today 8/22.

[codypet]

Wow there's going to be a pier right in the middle of that shot, about were 55W is.  Also you can see Church St Plaza is shooting the gap between 55W and SunTrust.  Blocking a lot of 55W

Edited August 22, 2018 by codypet

[jrs2]

7 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

I’m just suggesting it’s gone from bad to worse. A concept surely you can understand. This is hardly a controversial opinion.

You mean that the prior alignment of Anderson had it at grade with an intersection with Garland, right, whereas now it's an overpass?

My take on streets like Anderson and Garland and Hughey is that if these streets are a feeder to an expressway, they're a lost cause.  They are "racetracks" as Spencer1058 stated. 

Add to that Magnolia/Rosalind...it's really a shame, but that's just how it goes.

Edited August 22, 2018 by jrs2

[Ivanhoe]

I don’t disagree with you.

Downtowns across the country are “righting the wrongs” done by highway construction and stitching streets back together in an effort to humanize them. We really do not need freeways on our downtown streets.

[WAJAS]

2 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

I don’t disagree with you.

Downtowns across the country are “righting the wrongs” done by highway construction and stitching streets back together in an effort to humanize them. We really do not need freeways on our downtown streets.

I don't see what's wrong with Anderson.  It is made almost exclusively for vehicles, which is okay because it directly supplies the interstate.  Church St. is the opposite.  It features an environment that encourages pedestrians to use it.  Under I is supposed to make it an even nicer journey, and the reconstruction on the west side features wide sidewalks and Lymmo BRT lanes.

While I normally support enhancing pedestrian and cyclist experiences, certain roads need to prioritize vehicles to act as the alternative when other roads are slimmed.  It's why Colonial will never become especially pedestrian friendly and Hughey/Garland is being expanded with I-4 Ultimate.  You know how you fix those roads? You build bridges or tunnels to get across them.

Quick Aside, but I just found out that Hughey and Garland are getting Lymmo BRT lanes as a part of I-4 Ultimate.  At least, that is according to the Lynx on their website.  I haven't actually looked at the I-4 Ultimate plans for it.

[Jernigan]

[DreS0803]

18 more to go. Now that the garage is almost done. Should the construction speed up?

[FLClarkKent]

[JFW657]

51 minutes ago, DreS0803 said:

18 more to go. Now that the garage is almost done. Should the construction speed up?

Considering that from here on out (or rather up) the remaining tower will only be half as wide, I would think so.