Church Street Plaza | 28-Story Office/Hotel [Phase 1 Under Construction]

[Tim3167]

Where the heck is this fence that was mentioned...Boo!

[prahaboheme]

21 hours ago, jrs2 said:

So... if that's not the rendering, then what was the design like?  I mean, I can't remember, myself, but I do remember something in the paper, but I don't know.  I do recall early conceptual drawings of the current complex, which was a little taller and different looking (Solaire portion).  But I think I also remember this rendering with the steeple topped building as well a while before even that.

 

I really wish I could find it - I did a pretty extensive search and came up cold.

I recall a single tower rising on the block behind the restored facades. I don't think the tower was anything special and obviously it was a weak proposal as it's been lost to history, but at least it would have shown that there was an effort to save and retrofit rather than demolition.

 

[JFW657]

10 minutes ago, prahaboheme said:

I really wish I could find it - I did a pretty extensive search and came up cold.

I recall a single tower rising on the block behind the restored facades. I don't think the tower was anything special and obviously it was a weak proposal as it's been lost to history, but at least it would have shown that there was an effort to save and retrofit rather than demolition.

There are several archived articles from around October 1989 through around February 1990, which chronicle the efforts to save the block. The reality is that even if the efforts had been successful, it is highly likely that only the original Woolworth building would have been saved, while the McCrory's and the two actual OLD buildings from around 1910 which sat in between, would have been demolished and recreated.

Making Way For Woolworth High-rise Plans Aren't So Nice To Mccrory's (link)

There is a list of links on the left side of the page to a few more articles regarding this issue. 

One of the articles does reference "vague drawings" in which you can recognize the bright red McCrory's marquee, but it sounds more like a concept sketch in which they altered the bottom two floors of the design that is shown in the photo of the model I posted earlier.

[jrs2]

8 hours ago, AndyPok1 said:

I'm not saying there weren't alternatives.  Just from the pictures I've seen, I don't see anything that NEEDED to be saved.  The fact is that Orlando is a young city.  While it's good to save some things from the pre-1960s, I don't believe in saving stuff just because it is old.  

I did some quick googling, but came up empty.  How many cities saved/repurposed their Woolworth's?  If we're an outlier and there's 400 of them around the USA that I just don't know about, then I'll start to reconsider.  But I just don't believe they are that significant.

Anyway, we can move this to coffee house if it really needs to continue.  Fact is that most recent proposals, including the one this thread is nominally about, is going in as infill on ugly parking lots or removing non-contributing buildings.  Life is good here.  Let's focus less on the past and more about our exciting future.

I forgot to tell you that my middle name is "long winded".  The mod needs to put a limit on my posts b/c I can get carried away sometimes, and usually do. lol.

Regarding Tremont, I haven't seen any movement either.

[jrs2]

oh boy.  I don't think this is breaking ground in 2017.

[jrs2]

wow, no-one bit.  werd iz that "Oh You See" has stuff under there that has to be moved, and purmitz haven't even been applied for yet.  And, that "Eff Dee Oh Tee" hasn't finalized the easement variance yet 4 the tau-ur.  Yes, I purposely misspelled those werdz 4 a rhee zun.. Saw rhee.

So, I think Modera tops off before movement occurs here.

Edited July 28, 2017 by jrs2

[dcluley98]

You need more coffee in your whiskey this afternoon JRS? 

 

Edited July 28, 2017 by dcluley98

[bulldogger]

That sounds like a good idea about now.  Yes, it's Monday, but I think it is the law in Florida to drink during anything more than an afternoon storm.

[jrs2]

make mine a double.

[dcluley98]

LOL, Hurricane . . . errr, Tropical Depression? Party!

[orange87]

Any sign of construction yet?

[RedStar25]

I'll swing by today... Last I saw the parking lot was cleared. 

[bqknight]

22 minutes ago, RedStar25 said:

I'll swing by today... Last I saw the parking lot was cleared. 

I pass it on the way to work. It's been cleared and I haven't seen any vehicles there in a couple weeks, however, no fence or anything else noting they're going to begin work. 

[jrs2]

On 8/8/2017 at 10:46 AM, bqknight said:

I pass it on the way to work. It's been cleared and I haven't seen any vehicles there in a couple weeks, however, no fence or anything else noting they're going to begin work. 

I just drove by the site.  a crew is currently  installing the chain link fence around the perimeter of the property.  Can I get a...yay?

On 7/27/2017 at 1:32 PM, Tim3167 said:

Where the heck is this fence that was mentioned...Boo!

fence going up!

On 8/7/2017 at 9:40 PM, orange87 said:

Any sign of construction yet?

fence going up!

On 8/8/2017 at 10:22 AM, RedStar25 said:

I'll swing by today... Last I saw the parking lot was cleared. 

fence going up!

[dcluley98]

Pics or it didn't happen!

[JFW657]

1 hour ago, jrs2 said:

I just drove by the site.  a crew is currently  installing the chain link fence around the perimeter of the property.  Can I get a...yay?

fence going up!

fence going up!

fence going up!

Did you say something about a fence going up?

[jrs2]

1 hour ago, dcluley98 said:

Pics or it didn't happen!

I'll snap a photo if I can do it without getting killed out there.  if you don't hear back, it's because I tried...and failed...

Edited August 9, 2017 by jrs2

[RedStar25]

Lord you be a responsible dog dad and take the guy to the park and y'all steal my thunder.  

[camstrang]

No pic either (I was driving), but I too can confirm the very exciting chain link fence being put up today.

[bqknight]

Best I could get...

[dcluley98]

Hazzah!!!! 

Or up, in this case. . .

Getting really excited for this one with the design, the hotel, the overlook restaurant/bar with Green tendencies, the transit orientation, blocking out the Fat Conquistador from view coming into the city on I-4, gateway on South Street exit, synergetic effect with hopefully coming soon Magic Entertainment Complex across the highway, etc, etc, etc. . . 

Edited August 10, 2017 by dcluley98

[Jernigan]

View from the train 

[codypet]

There's no fence separating the site from the tracks?  That's interesting.  

[HankStrong]

Is that a fence I see?

[jrs2]

Ok, this am, there is a fence around the entire perimeter, and, the black tarp is over the fence so you can't see inside.