Design Center Expansion in South End

[JorgiPorgi]

13 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Thank you for saying Seoul Food isn’t good. That place is not good.


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I’m Outraged. Soul food has the best fried wings in town. And that Potato swirl? 

You. Is. Crazy. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, JorgiPorgi said:

I’m Outraged. Soul food has the best fried wings in town. And that Potato swirl? 

You. Is. Crazy. 

Wings are good, but that's not all that makes a Korean Restaurant. Plus its supposed to be Korean Southern fusion. Their Pulled pork is piss poor, almost tastes poached, and their pork belly is bland and oily. Bao's were meh. I'll give the potato swirl and the beef rib a shot after you and @atlrvr suggestions.

[JorgiPorgi]

4 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Wings are good, but that's not all that makes a Korean Restaurant. Plus its supposed to be Korean Southern fusion. Their Pulled pork is piss poor, almost tastes poached, and their pork belly is bland and oily. Bao's were meh. I'll give the potato swirl and the beef rib a shot after you and @atlrvr suggestions.

This is what you do: 

Order the soy Garlic Wings. Order the Potato Swirl. Order extra orange saice(that comes with the potato swirl) to also use for the wings.  Delicious.  But yeah, the other stuff was meh to me as well. 

Edited May 7, 2019 by JorgiPorgi

[SouthEndCLT811]

Ha seeing as my drunk food of choice in the area is wings and potato swirl I was confused by the comment but you're (RDF) actually going there to eat like a real adult and not order late at night to take home..

I agree I ate off the menu and wasn't too impressed but to be fair to an above post they were out of beef rib at the time.  For a back patio hang out and late night spot I really enjoy it.  Guess my expectations weren't too high for it.

Edited May 7, 2019 by SouthEndCLT811

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, SouthEndCLT811 said:

Ha seeing as my drunk food of choice in the area is wings and potato swirl I was confused by the comment but you're (RDF) actually going there to eat like a real adult and not order late at night to take home..

I agree I ate off the menu and wasn't too impressed but to be fair to an above post they were out of beef rib at the time.  For a back patio hang out and late night spot I really enjoy it.  Guess my expectations weren't too high for it.

Hey now, I don't eat anywhere as an Adult, I'm just getting drunk earlier in the day than you, with my lackluster pulled pork dinner.

[CLT>]

On 5/6/2019 at 11:11 PM, wilmore said:

I think the better/cooler argument is true. The actually good places seem to be doing just as well if they're local. Futo Buta is a perfect example, Rai Lay, Pasta & Provisions, all seem to be doing quite well. Then there's stuff like the extremely strange CBD-obsessed Max & Lola's, the nostalgia-heavy mediocrity Pike's, and every Bottle Cap Group joint (though the Bottle Cap ones may actually be doing well, I don't really go by there at prime times, but I think it's clear they are *worse* than the chains). Seoul Food is also packed all the time, and it's not even good - but it has a similar cool factor to these chains. 

Bardo also looks to be doing great recently after a slow start - they've really picked up business over the past few months to where they appear full pretty much every night when I go by. I really don't think there is anywhere executing to the same level as these popular chains that isn't doing well *because* they're local; Golden Cow is a possibility - I'm not sure if they've been hit a lot by Jeni's moving in, but I have to be honest and say the ice cream just isn't as good. Their location is also significantly worse, which is another point: these chains do get the best spots, and *have* to be that full to make the rent back out. 

Overall it seems like people are freaking out and dropping hot takes (less on here than on Twitter), when those takes are really about ~5 hot national/regional chains (and yeah, I find it hard to consider Superica a "chain" either.)

It continues to amaze me how a second rate blog like Charlotte Agenda drives so much restaurant and bar hype in town. They have never done a proper review of a place, and for that matter they have never been to a place they don’t LOVE!

Count the amount of mentions/tweets/post a national chain like Jenni’s or Hawkers gets on CA vs a local place like Golden Cow. 

That doesn’t apply if it’s a local place designed to be rolled out as a chain. 

Since the Observer doesn’t even have a food editor anymore it’s sad to see how many people just blindly follow ChainAgenda. 

[Guest]

11 hours ago, CLT> said:

It continues to amaze me how a second rate blog like Charlotte Agenda drives so much restaurant and bar hype in town. They have never done a proper review of a place, and for that matter they have never been to a place they don’t LOVE!

Count the amount of mentions/tweets/post a national chain like Jenni’s or Hawkers gets on CA vs a local place like Golden Cow. 

That doesn’t apply if it’s a local place designed to be rolled out as a chain. 

Since the Observer doesn’t even have a food editor anymore it’s sad to see how many people just blindly follow ChainAgenda. 

A second rate blog? It gets 50k clicks a day, and has 140k followers on instagram, 40k on twitter, and the newsletter has like 45,000 subscribers.

Yes I agree its chain happy, which annoys the hell out of me, as a writer for them, but calling them second rate, when they are quickly growing and outpacing everyone in most metrics, is silly. 

Edited May 11, 2019 by Guest

[FreeOpinions]

8 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

A second rate blog? It gets 50k clicks a day, and has 140k followers on instagram, 40k on twitter, and the newsletter has like 45,000 subscribers.

Yes I agree its chain happy, which annoys the hell out of me, as a writer for them, but calling them second rate, when they are quickly growing and outpacing everyone in most metrics, is silly. 

I give them props for filling the void creative loafing left behind in a digital world.

They market there pants off.

if your sending out 45,000 emails I would expect more clicks per day.  

I personally like the guys on 1110 AM restaurant Tuesday in the evening.  Or Dirty Restaurant Thursday!  Hilarious and scary...

[CM2424]

The Agenda has had a hugely positive impact on the city of Charlotte in my opinion.  I also agree with others pointing out how important location is - if you put Golden Cow in the Jenni’s location it would be killing it as well.  Hopefully some local brands will get the confidence to pay up for the top locations.

Edited May 12, 2019 by cmwilson24

[CLTProductions]

On 5/10/2019 at 7:31 PM, CLT> said:

It continues to amaze me how a second rate blog like Charlotte Agenda drives so much restaurant and bar hype in town. They have never done a proper review of a place, and for that matter they have never been to a place they don’t LOVE!

Count the amount of mentions/tweets/post a national chain like Jenni’s or Hawkers gets on CA vs a local place like Golden Cow. 

That doesn’t apply if it’s a local place designed to be rolled out as a chain. 

Since the Observer doesn’t even have a food editor anymore it’s sad to see how many people just blindly follow ChainAgenda. 

Lol u mad?

[JHart]

I also wish that they would do a better job of actual honest restaurant reviews and less "most instagrammable brunch spots", but they definitely serve a purpose. As long as they continue to provide renderings and bring attention to new developments and post renderings early on as they have been doing, I'll find myself on their site every now and then for those alone. The rest of the site is pretty garbage though, I mean who really budgets their spending weekly?? I made lunch and dinner with food I had in my fridge $0. 

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On 5/12/2019 at 9:41 AM, cmwilson24 said:

 I also agree with others pointing out how important location is - if you put Golden Cow in the Jenni’s location it would be killing it as well.  Hopefully some local brands will get the confidence to pay up for the top locations.

No doubt location is important, but Jenni's will have lines wrapping around their kiosk at Park Road Shopping Center, while Va da Vie never did, and they both serve good product. Some of the national chains can pay 3-4x what the local ones can, but that's the development world.

[KJHburg]

The Hawk slowly rising but it will rise fast once the concrete panels arrive and start to be assembled.  In the area at a nearby restaurant today. 

[Missmylab4]

Heard SoulCycle signed a lease here.

[Cadi40]

Ironic, I was just looking at SoulCycle locations and realizing we don’t have one. You could call me a millennial retail wizard.

[tozmervo]

5 minutes ago, Cadi40 said:

Ironic, I was just looking at SoulCycle locations and realizing we don’t have one. You could call me a millennial retail wizard.

What other lit millennial hotness are we missing?

[rockhilljames]

Do we have an axe throwing bar yet?

[navigator319]

34 minutes ago, rockhilljames said:

Do we have an axe throwing bar yet?

sure do, have 2 actually....  https://axeclubofamerica.com/

 

Edited June 1, 2019 by navigator319

[CLTProductions]

7 hours ago, Missmylab4 said:

Heard SoulCycle signed a lease here.

Nah, unfortunately 

[KJHburg]

I climbed up for a hawk like view of the Hawk and other shots from around Asana's Design Center.   (how about a mural on this alleyway Asana?)  Today.   Was in the area for a Tex Mex meal 

and they are still lining up for Jeni's.  

[JorgiPorgi]

The alley-way is one of my favorite features of the Design Center. So much opportunity there. There definetely needs to be more plants- big potted palm trees for the summer, and some outdoor seating. 

[J-Rob]

On 6/1/2019 at 7:50 PM, KJHburg said:

as in the area for a Tex Mex meal 

and they are still lining up for Jeni's. 

about this... I like Jeni's but heard the feedback from some others on UP it might be overrated.   Over the last two weekends, I took my son to two well-rated local places (Elizabeth Creamery and Golden Cow).  I hate to say it, but I came away more convinced Jeni's actually has a superior product.  Not only does Jeni's have more unique flavors, but I genuinely think the ice cream taste better.  I am kind of meh on ice cream in general, but I love Jeni's.  It might be an unpopular, trend-following opinion, but I can now confidently say I like Jeni's more than other ice cream shops.   FWIW.

[Crown]

On 6/1/2019 at 7:48 PM, Jayvee said:

Nah, unfortunately 

That was a HUGE rollercoaster of emotions for me. 

[JorgiPorgi]

On a side note...One of my friends drunkenly  called it ‘Sup Erica. It is now the official name for that restaurant, for me at least. 

[DCtransplant]

On 6/3/2019 at 12:32 PM, J-Rob said:

about this... I like Jeni's but heard the feedback from some others on UP it might be overrated.   Over the last two weekends, I took my son to two well-rated local places (Elizabeth Creamery and Golden Cow).  I hate to say it, but I came away more convinced Jeni's actually has a superior product.  Not only does Jeni's have more unique flavors, but I genuinely think the ice cream taste better.  I am kind of meh on ice cream in general, but I love Jeni's.  It might be an unpopular, trend-following opinion, but I can now confidently say I like Jeni's more than other ice cream shops.   FWIW.

Agree with you on Elizabeth Creamery and Golden Cow - not as good as Jeni's. As for local, my favorite is Two Scoops. Give that a whirl if you're looking for more local shops to compare.