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14 hours ago, WMrapids said:

If you're hoping for the tower, you're in luck because that's part of phase 1. Phase 2 consists of over a dozen surrounding 2-story "carriage houses" and retail near 28th St.

Oh, be still my beating heart.  They're constructing a giant castle-ish thing with towers and turrets.  Dreams are apparently made in Grandville.  :unsure:  The GRBJ story about how this thing came to be is rather interesting.  One of developers visited Neuschwanstein Castle in Germany, loved it, and decided to build something inspired by it here.  

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They toned down the largest of the money-sucking towers and turrets a bit, but my hat's still off to these guys.  It really is an unprecedented project, and quite bold.

16 hours ago, Prankster said:

Already been done. 

Good call.  PPG Place, although that is a glass castle. The Wikipedia article is interesting:  It was designed by Johnson/Burgee, possibly the best postmodernist architects ever, and served to some extent as an advertisement for PPG plate glass.  When the rest of downtown Pittsburgh was at 20% vacancy, the castle was at 10%, and it was still the public's favorite building in Pittsburgh 20 years later.  Castles sell, and (most) people love 'em.  Personally, I like the Grandville Castle more.

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My only concern is that it may just look cheap and hokey.  Something akin to the craze of "Tudor" style residential projects from the 70's and 80's that are eyesores. 

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3 hours ago, x99 said:

Oh, be still my beating heart.  They're constructing a giant castle-ish thing with towers and turrets.  Dreams are apparently made in Grandville.  :unsure:  The GRBJ story about how this thing came to be is rather interesting.  One of developers visited Neuschwanstein Castle in Germany, loved it, and decided to build something inspired by it here.  

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They toned down the largest of the money-sucking towers and turrets a bit, but my hat's still off to these guys.  It really is an unprecedented project, and quite bold.

Good call.  PPG Place, although that is a glass castle. The Wikipedia article is interesting:  It was designed by Johnson/Burgee, possibly the best postmodernist architects ever, and served to some extent as an advertisement for PPG plate glass.  When the rest of downtown Pittsburgh was at 20% vacancy, the castle was at 10%, and it was still the public's favorite building in Pittsburgh 20 years later.  Castles sell, and (most) people love 'em.  Personally, I like the Grandville Castle more.

I loved that castle in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. My favorite movie as a little kid! 

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Neuschwanstein has been my favourite castle since I was a kid.  Maybe I'll be able to see it myself next summer!  I will miss the tower on this development.

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I had a thought as I was passing the site on my commute home yesterday; what terrible views this place will have. One direction you have I-196 and the other direction you have 28th street. Certainly not moat-worthy. 

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33 minutes ago, thebeerqueer said:

I had a thought as I was passing the site on my commute home yesterday; what terrible views this place will have. One direction you have I-196 and the other direction you have 28th street. Certainly not moat-worthy. 

Not to mention the industrial part of Wyoming that is sandwiched between 196 and 28th St to the east.  

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Just now, MJLO said:

Not to mention the industrial part of Wyoming that is sandwiched between 196 and 28th St to the east.  

 

34 minutes ago, thebeerqueer said:

I had a thought as I was passing the site on my commute home yesterday; what terrible views this place will have. One direction you have I-196 and the other direction you have 28th street. Certainly not moat-worthy. 

Right. This is a very poverty stricken area of Grandville. It is full of low income apartments, old homes that aren't well kept up, gas stations, industry, highway on and off ramps, sewage treatment plants a couple miles away in both directions, and railroad tracks. It's the perfect area for a trailer park - not a palace. 

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48 minutes ago, WMrapids said:

It may not be for everyone but it's better than a trailer park.

Absolutely. No one wants a run-down trailer park in their community if they can get away with it. This could go one of two ways: It could take on the character of the area that surrounds it or it could change the character of the area that surrounds it. Hopefully it's the latter. 

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31 minutes ago, GRLaker said:

Absolutely. No one wants a run-down trailer park in their community if they can get away with it. This could go one of two ways: It could take on the character of the area that surrounds it or it could change the character of the area that surrounds it. Hopefully it's the latter. 

Exactly, especially if the phase 2 plans for revitalized retail along 28th. Although the views may not be the best, the tree canopy is very thick and it's next to a very large part all to the north and walking distance to downtown Grandville to the south. A lot of potential there and one of only 3 "downtowns" in the inner metro area

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3 hours ago, thebeerqueer said:

I had a thought as I was passing the site on my commute home yesterday; what terrible views this place will have. One direction you have I-196 and the other direction you have 28th street. Certainly not moat-worthy. 

Well, that's sort of like saying Riverhouse has terrible views because you can see the highway...  This is actually a unique site, and the configuration of the building takes good advantage of it.  Most of the site is ringed by trees and water, so that's what you'll see from the lower floor.  As you move up in the tower, the river and Johnson park and Millenium Park are to the east and  to the north.  Grandville to the south also have a nicely developed urban forest, and a number of lakes.  It's just a matter of perspective.  I suspect the view from most of the units will actually be quite nice, and from the upper floors one of the better views from any apartment complex in West Michigan.  

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27 minutes ago, x99 said:

Well, that's sort of like saying Riverhouse has terrible views because you can see the highway...  This is actually a unique site, and the configuration of the building takes good advantage of it.  Most of the site is ringed by trees and water, so that's what you'll see from the lower floor.  As you move up in the tower, the river and Johnson park and Millenium Park are to the east and  to the north.  Grandville to the south also have a nicely developed urban forest, and a number of lakes.  It's just a matter of perspective.  I suspect the view from most of the units will actually be quite nice, and from the upper floors one of the better views from any apartment complex in West Michigan.  

^^^ I agree. Freeways actually make for pretty nice views from high up.  This is a great project for that site.

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17 minutes ago, Floyd_Z said:

I would think you would be able to see DT GR from the top, but I'm not really sure how to calculate that.

I'm certain you can since you can see it from further away on 196 over the Ottawa co line this would be closer and higher

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Love it.  To hell with the critics and naysayers, this will fill up quickly and at rates considerably less than DT when you consider the parking factor.  People will commute ... with a car!  

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On August 9, 2016 at 3:46 PM, ryan_gndvl said:

This building is going vertical already.

The portion thy they're working on right now is gaining height fast. You can see them working on it heading east on 196.

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58 minutes ago, thebeerqueer said:

The top floors are visible from I-196 Eastbound. Gaining floors every few days it looks like. 

Are they doing pre-cast panels? Seems to be rising faster than you could do pouring floors. I don't have enough of an expert eye to tell from the above photo. 

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Well this will be about 15 stories tall. Materials will be concrete and steel roofing. I guess the lake will be cleaned up too since they said residents can kayak and enjoy it. Should be done by June 2017.

http://www.wzzm13.com/mb/news/local/grandville/castle-apartments-being-built-in-grandville/310652534?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Another interesting tidbit, it looks like a SpringHill Suites by Marriott is moving in next to the Maserati dealership.

http://grandvillecitymi.minutesondemand.com/Document/30083ae0-ca13-e611-9e45-001fbc00ed84/cou-packet-05092016.pdf

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Well, I give this guy a lot of credit for saying "I want to build a castle", and then doing it. Also liked his quote about "just because it hasn't been done, doesn't mean it shouldn't".

Still not a big fan of the whole castle concept-  maybe I've just seen Excalibur in Las Vegas too many times (really shoddy). I hope I'm pleasantly surprised. :)

Joe

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He lost me at, "you can swim in the lake." You couldn't pay me to swim in that pond. It's basically a highway and industrial run-off pond.

If the blue in the middle is the pool of this place though, I doubt anyone would feel the need to grow an 11th toe by setting foot in the pond. That would be one sweet pool.  

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