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21 hours ago, elcelc said:

It's a C-shaped layout with the parking deck concealed in the center.  That's very very recent info but all I've seen so far.

There ya go arturus. 

I kind of figured it'd end up in a C-type layout. Something like this?

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13 hours ago, ironyisadeadscene said:

5 floors? That's it?

That's what it says from the applicant. I thought they were going 9 but maybe the numbers don't work. It has a YUGE amount of retail compared to most projects downtown though, and onsite parking. Could be exciting. 

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This project is going before the BRA for about $11.98 Million in Brownfield reimbursements. 

5 floors of residential, 174,452 sf, 28,000 sf of commercial/retail, 305 space parking ramp, $50 Million investment

No updated drawings

 

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16 hours ago, joeDowntown said:

So is it 5 floors total or six with retail?

joe

Good question. Doesn't say.

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11 minutes ago, urbanland said:

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Swooning. This reminds me of a lot of simple mixed use projects in others cities I enjoy. That corner anchor almost implies a grocery type component with the people and their bags...I also like the bike share looking situation going on, though I'd like it more if they weren't on the sidewalk.

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15 minutes ago, GVSUChris said:

Swooning. This reminds me of a lot of simple mixed use projects in others cities I enjoy. That corner anchor almost implies a grocery type component with the people and their bags...I also like the bike share looking situation going on, though I'd like it more if they weren't on the sidewalk.

Plus, 234 Market...the address already provides a name for the store.  =)  Looks great!

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10 hours ago, RegalTDP said:

This is the side facing the corner of Market & Bartlett?

:thumbsup:

Yes, it appears so. Me likey!  #gamechanger

(yes I hashtagged on urbanplanet)

I like the curvaciousness of it. With a few extra tweaks you could almost pick up an art modern vibe. 

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This may be another thread but has there been any news on the city owned property that put on the market?

If and when this gets built, I would assume it would certainly put some emphasis on the city owned blight across the street, on the river.

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14 hours ago, ironyisadeadscene said:

Only if x99 likes it

I don't hate it.  But it is boring and entirely mediocre, once you get over the fact that it's "new".   But, hey, It's Integrated.  What did you expect? Their designs often leave me feeling like someone set out to design what could have been a very nice building, and then got caught up in the "feature of the week."  It's as if they have someone sitting in their back office who says "Let's design the most boring building possible, and then try to juice it up with some real crazy s--t that makes no sense at all!"  It looks like some forgettable piece of suburban schlock that belongs on a three acre parcel on the Beltline.  At least it could easily be fixed.  The building GRDad posted, OTOH, now that's how you detail a building in this general style, while still keeping it very simple.  It makes it quite clear what this design lacks:  Visual interest that isn't kitsch.  Because that glass protuberance is dopey, if you didn't get my drift before.  So is endlessly stacking up bricks and cutting and cutting square holes in them.  Oooh wow!  What talent!  It has a curved wall!  Meh.

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It's an infill structure going into an area that has been a wasteland for decades. Its main goal is to look presentable and to nail the ground floor so that people will actually start being in that part of the DT area. That is the important thing. Needless ornamentation for ornamentation sake is worthless if the basics are neglected. It just isnt the current architectural style, and it adds far too much to the cost.

I honestly like the casual simplicity of it. It looks so inviting. Fill in market from Fulton to Wealthy with these and things will really change for the better in that part of town.

I guess I'm just not sure what is an example of what should be there.

 

 

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2 hours ago, x99 said:

I don't hate it.  But it is boring and entirely mediocre, once you get over the fact that it's "new".   But, hey, It's Integrated.  What did you expect? Their designs often leave me feeling like someone set out to design what could have been a very nice building, and then got caught up in the "feature of the week."  It's as if they have someone sitting in their back office who says "Let's design the most boring building possible, and then try to juice it up with some real crazy s--t that makes no sense at all!"  It looks like some forgettable piece of suburban schlock that belongs on a three acre parcel on the Beltline.  At least it could easily be fixed.  The building GRDad posted, OTOH, now that's how you detail a building in this general style, while still keeping it very simple.  It makes it quite clear what this design lacks:  Visual interest that isn't kitsch.  Because that glass protuberance is dopey, if you didn't get my drift before.  So is endlessly stacking up bricks and cutting and cutting square holes in them.  Oooh wow!  What talent!  It has a curved wall!  Meh.

You remind me of that episode of the Simpsons where Homer becomes a food critic and hates everything.

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5 hours ago, x99 said:

I don't hate it.  But it is boring and entirely mediocre, once you get over the fact that it's "new".   But, hey, It's Integrated.  What did you expect? Their designs often leave me feeling like someone set out to design what could have been a very nice building, and then got caught up in the "feature of the week."  It's as if they have someone sitting in their back office who says "Let's design the most boring building possible, and then try to juice it up with some real crazy s--t that makes no sense at all!"  It looks like some forgettable piece of suburban schlock that belongs on a three acre parcel on the Beltline.  At least it could easily be fixed.  The building GRDad posted, OTOH, now that's how you detail a building in this general style, while still keeping it very simple.  It makes it quite clear what this design lacks:  Visual interest that isn't kitsch.  Because that glass protuberance is dopey, if you didn't get my drift before.  So is endlessly stacking up bricks and cutting and cutting square holes in them.  Oooh wow!  What talent!  It has a curved wall!  Meh.

I think they could have at least thrown in some purple neon.  For old times' sake.

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Buildings need to look like this to pass x99 standards. :)

All joking aside, that is actually a building proposed for Central Park in NYC. It's fantastically over the top with detail. 

Joe

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