The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread

[MagicPotato]

1 hour ago, markhollin said:

Got this in an e-mail today...good graphic showing all the elements of how the plan will work for John Q. Public in different parts of the city:

Does the plan extend to Franklin and Murfreesboro too?

[PaulChinetti]

5 minutes ago, MagicPotato said:

Does the plan extend to Franklin and Murfreesboro too?

"We believe that successful implementation of a regional transit system begins with key investments in Nashville,” said Franklin Mayor Ken Moore, president of GNRC. 
“Middle Tennessee has for a long time lagged behind its peers when it comes to investing in transit options," said Smyrna Mayor Mary Esther Reed.

I would think eventually yes, if the current Mayors support it, the plan would start becoming a regional system once they have something to connect to.

[Hey_Hey]

17 hours ago, volsfanwill said:

I finally got around to reading the Improve act.   I found this line most interesting. 

Also, any surcharge on the local option sales and use tax will apply only to the first $1,600 on the sale or use of any single article of personal property.

So, if i read this correctly, the sales tax would not apply to large purchases.  this should be shared everywhere!

This is the way sales tax works currently.  The local option maxes pretty quickly, but the state tax is for the full amount.  For a car sale (or boat or wedding ring, etc), you pay 9.25% on the first $1600 and then 7% on the amount over $1600. 

I personally think this would be a good target to fund transit regionally, and proposed this idea on this board a couple years ago.  Allow the counties in the regional transit authority to tax 100% of the sale at the local option rate and designate that additional revenue to fund transit projects. When I ran the numbers I came up with something like $50 million annually for the entire MSA just on automobile sales.

[LA_TN]

Nashville Transit Plan AB

[Rockatansky]

Agriculture is a 12,000 year old technology. Why would we every want to invest in something so outdated?

Edited April 13, 2018 by Rockatansky

[Pdt2f]

I cast my early vote For Transit today.

If you’re in the Madison area, you can vote early for transit at the Fifty Forward on Madison St. If you’re voting against transit, the early vote is May 3rd at the Sumner County Agricultural Center. 

[MagicPotato]

It seems like some of the people in the  /r/Nashville subreddit are  against the transit plan.  

Edited April 13, 2018 by MagicPotato

[NashvilleObserver]

If these development-fearing, "Nashville needs to stay a small town" spouting, NIMBYs can't embrace the idea of riding in trains, then what on earth would make someone think they will ride in "them cars that drive by themSELVES?!?!"

[PaulChinetti]

58 minutes ago, MagicPotato said:

It seems like some of the people in the  /r/Nashville subreddit are  against the transit plan.  

I lurk around there, the majority of the people on that subredditt seem against any kind of change.

[e-dub]

yes, /r/nashville is the gonorrhea of the internet.

[MagicPotato]

1 hour ago, e-dub said:

yes, /r/nashville is the gonorrhea of the internet.

Maybe not the entirety of the internet, but probably for a sub reddit 

Edited April 13, 2018 by MagicPotato

[e-dub]

I dunno, it's not too far off from the youtube comments section, lol.

[samsonh]

49 minutes ago, e-dub said:

yes, /r/nashville is the gonorrhea of the internet.

Yes, but it is world's better than the comments on a Tennessean article on facebook.

[PaulChinetti]

11 minutes ago, samsonh said:

Yes, but it is world's better than the comments on a Tennessean article on facebook.

I tried once with that crowd, it's like they don't even read what you write and just keep talking regardless of what you say.

I had a conversation with someone today (albeit on Facebook) and they just kept talking about how high taxes where gonna be (debt and tax burden), why I didn't ride the buses now (what that has to do with anything I am not sure) and why more "innovative solutions" weren't being used/considered (ride shares mini buses, then showed an article where it worked in 1 city and failed in 2 others).

I just don't get this innovate angle, ride shares are great and will surely have a place but, they can't be the end all be all. It has to be a comprehensive plan! Sigh

What do they want teleportation, rocket cars, a pneumatic tube system like in Futurama?
 

[volsfanwill]

channel 5 just had a story.   Voter turnout is extremely high.   I didn't catch the exact numbers but thousands more than a normal primary.

2 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

I tried once with that crowd, it's like they don't even read what you write and just keep talking regardless of what you say.

I had a conversation with someone today (albeit on Facebook) and they just kept talking about how high taxes where gonna be (debt and tax burden), why I didn't ride the buses now (what that has to do with anything I am not sure) and why more "innovative solutions" weren't being used/considered (ride shares mini buses, then showed an article where it worked in 1 city and failed in 2 others).

I just don't get this innovate angle, ride shares are great and will surely have a place but, they can't be the end all be all. It has to be a comprehensive plan! Sigh

What do they want teleportation, rocket cars, a pneumatic tube system like in Futurama?
 

ive had the same experience.  in fact i have gone back and forth with Lance Bloom several times. 

just saw a new ad,  "vote for truth, vote for transit"   basically pointing out the recent false claims by opponents. 

[BnaBreaker]

5 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

I tried once with that crowd, it's like they don't even read what you write and just keep talking regardless of what you say.

I had a conversation with someone today (albeit on Facebook) and they just kept talking about how high taxes where gonna be (debt and tax burden), why I didn't ride the buses now (what that has to do with anything I am not sure) and why more "innovative solutions" weren't being used/considered (ride shares mini buses, then showed an article where it worked in 1 city and failed in 2 others).

I just don't get this innovate angle, ride shares are great and will surely have a place but, they can't be the end all be all. It has to be a comprehensive plan! Sigh

What do they want teleportation, rocket cars, a pneumatic tube system like in Futurama?
 

It is difficult to have a debate, or even a casual chat, with someone who refuses to acknowledge reality.

[rookzie]

Just don't be caught by surprise, if the Koch Bro's pull a big sink-hole in the path of the Plan.  We all should have our seismic probes on the ground for that one ─ Yay or Nay.

Edited April 14, 2018 by rookzie

[Neigeville2]

I was at a restaurant yesterday, the two young people fixing my burrito asked me about the 'I voted" sticker I forgot I was wearing, what did I vote in?  I answered the Transit Referendum and one asked me if I voted yes or no.  I said "yes" and they both gave me big thumbs up.  One opined he didn't understand how anyone could be against it.  It all depends on who votes.  Unfortunately old people always vote.  If young people vote it'll pass.  Big turnout is good IMO.

Edited April 14, 2018 by Neigeville2

[rookzie]

16 minutes ago, Neigeville2 said:

I was at a restaurant yesterday, the two young people fixing my burrito asked my about the 'I voted" sticker I forgot I was wearing, what did I vote in?  I answered the Transit Referendum and one asked me if I voted yes or no.  I said "yes" and they both gave me big thumbs up.  One opined he didn't understand how anyone could be against it.  It all depends on who votes.  Unfortunately old people always vote.  If young people vote it'll pass.  Big turnout is good IMO.

I "infer" from the context that you're old then....

[I didn't say ancient like me, but I gave the "benefit" of the doubt...ツ]

[Neigeville2]

6 minutes ago, rookzie said:

I "infer" from the context that you're old then....

[I didn't say ancient like me, but I gave the "benefit" of the doubt...ツ]

The Ancient of Days.  Haven't me you yet, but I'd say we're roughly peers, age-wise.  You may have a couple of years on me, or maybe your memory's just better.

[rookzie]

2 minutes ago, Neigeville2 said:

The Ancient of Days.  Haven't me you yet, but I'd say we're roughly peers, age-wise.  You may have a couple of years on me, or maybe your memory's just better.

Ha!.. With my rotten-ass memory, I'd say you must be "up there", if that were the case...

Seriously, it's no secret ─ I'm 66, 67 in September.  I just tend to have been able to recall certain trivia with details and clarity, perhaps in the same manner that some with dementia can seem "normal" for a minute.

[PaulChinetti]

1 hour ago, rookzie said:

Seriously, it's no secret ─ I'm 66, 67 in September.  I just tend to have been able to recall certain trivia with details and clarity, perhaps in the same manner that some with dementia can seem "normal" for a minute.

I turned 35 on Sunday. I feel old right there with you... 

[BnaBreaker]

13 minutes ago, PaulChinetti said:

I turned 35 on Sunday. I feel old right there with you... 

I'm also 35 and feel like I might as well be in my late 60's sometimes! lol

[nashvylle]

Happy birthday @PaulChinetti

[timmay143]

9 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

I'm also 35 and feel like I might as well be in my late 60's sometimes! lol

  Me too.  What is wrong with us "younger" folk...