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Since Nashville does not have a typical beltway around the north of the city, it will need the Interstates through the city to be kept and widened.  Getting beyond the core, they're actually quite wide and nice.  So widening the downtown segments shouldn't add a whole lot to the sprawl, which continues unabated around Nashville. 

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Well....those "clueless people" happened to do over 100 town halls (attended by over 10,000 people) and a tremendous amount of research in putting that proposal together that many folks happen to thin

There was another couple of articles in the NBJ. It was a both side of the coin approach, as Charles Robert Bone Pro and Joe Scarlett Con shared their views.  The one comment Scarlett proposed wa

The land bridge to which markhollin has referred was  formally proposed in 2016 by Metro, as a component of the  Gateway to Heritage Walking Improvements initiative.   This particular land bridge woul

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37 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

I drove up today from the NW suburbs of Atlanta to Nashville and the truck traffic on that corridor is unbelievable and quite heavy as it rolls into Nashville.  Why can't Briley Parkway being upgraded to interstate standards from I-24 around east side of Nashville on its existing route and connect back to I-24 and have this route designated I-24 to get some of this truck traffic out of downtown?  It seems like there is only a few stretches not a freeway now but designated this as an interstate could divert most of that through truck traffic out of your downtown. 

It seems like this was almost another inner beltway.    Nashville has grown into a major metro area whether you like it or not but the congestion is getting worse and worse it seems and not much is happening on the transportation front.   I still think Bus Rapid Trail and commuter rail need to get started and quick and eventually light rail.  

And promoting this new Briley I-24 loop with the trucking industry could get these Midwest to Southeast trucks out of downtown especially if I-840 is never going to built north of I-40. 

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Yep.

And utilizing Briley Parkway in either direction requires going through a mind-boggling dogleg steep cloverleaf. As truck - unfriendly as it gets and renders Briley Parkway useless

And then, there's the Briley/I-24 interchange on the north side, built to modern 1932 standards with its 15mph speed limit

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I came across this today and thought I'd share. Not sure how committed Nashville is to removing cars, but it did recently lower speed limits on all residential streets to 25mph. Some more physical traffic calming measures are needed because many drivers ignore the limits, especially on streets that are used as cut throughs. 

"Cars Will Take the Streets Back Unless Cities Act Quickly"

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/cars-will-take-streets-back-unless-cities-act-quickly/618615/

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8 hours ago, LA_TN said:

Yep.

And utilizing Briley Parkway in either direction requires going through a mind-boggling dogleg steep cloverleaf. As truck - unfriendly as it gets and renders Briley Parkway useless

And then, there's the Briley/I-24 interchange on the north side, built to modern 1932 standards with its 15mph speed limit

Yep, the is the kicker. If they fix that section of 155, then it is the answer to the truck traffic problem. I will say that when traffic is back to normal, Briley  can be a parking lot both directions at rush hour. It will require 8 lanes from I 65 back around to I 40 and White Bridge/Charlotte. I live on that end of town and use to have to drive it at rush hour and there were times it was not fun at all and that was 10 years ago. 

If you add the truck traffic, then you have to add the lanes and the enhanced interchanges.

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The politicians in this state do not have the willpower to fix Nashville traffic woes because all of the Podunk counties will be jealous that Nashville is getting all of the gas tax money. They want the money for roads to their trailer parks fixed first. 

They also passed the law to allow for toll roads, but none have done one. No political will power there either.

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22 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

The politicians in this state do not have the willpower to fix Nashville traffic woes because all of the Podunk counties will be jealous that Nashville is getting all of the gas tax money. They want the money for roads to their trailer parks fixed first. 

They also passed the law to allow for toll roads, but none have done one. No political will power there either.

The Podunk counties would benefit from 840 north as it would spur economic growth in those counties along its corridor. It would also make those counties more attractive for commuters to live in as truck traffic would be diverted around Nashville and thus make for a safer and quicker commute into Nashville.

840 south was originally sold as an economic growth engine.

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The bidding process for a private partner to upgrade and run the city's on-street parking meters has begun

Mayor John Cooper's administration wants to upgrade Nashville's largely coin-operated meters with a user-friendly system to increase compliance. The scope of any future deal will focus on the 725 meters downtown and 975 meters in the Midtown and Vanderbilt area. There won't be an expansion or changes to rates and hours of enforcement. At least not initially.

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/21/nashville-opens-bidding-parking-meter-contract/7284298002/

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41 minutes ago, markhollin said:

The bidding process for a private partner to upgrade and run the city's on-street parking meters has begun

Mayor John Cooper's administration wants to upgrade Nashville's largely coin-operated meters with a user-friendly system to increase compliance. The scope of any future deal will focus on the 725 meters downtown and 975 meters in the Midtown and Vanderbilt area. There won't be an expansion or changes to rates and hours of enforcement. At least not initially.

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/21/nashville-opens-bidding-parking-meter-contract/7284298002/

Considering the fact that there’s practically NO enforcement of metered parking now, I hope this move will mean that on street metered parking will become the SHORT TERM parking option that it should be going forward. (A midday walk downtown always reveals most meters flashing the “expired” indicator.)

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On 4/16/2021 at 3:56 PM, smeagolsfree said:

The politicians in this state do not have the willpower to fix Nashville traffic woes because all of the Podunk counties will be jealous that Nashville is getting all of the gas tax money. They want the money for roads to their trailer parks fixed first. 

They also passed the law to allow for toll roads, but none have done one. No political will power there either.

  Knowing so many people in he Podunk counties and many of their reasons for living there I have elected to delete my comment 3 times before leaving this one.

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Premier Parking has announced new checkout-free mobile technology. It is first being used in Nashville, with plans to expand to all Premier sites over the coming months.

The proprietary technology was created by Metropolis and is billed as an “AI-powered autonomous commerce platform built to modernize parking and empower the future of mobility.”

With the app, customers get can pay for parking at any of the new Metropolis-driven locations across Nashville. Once enrolled, each time a customer pulls into an enabled location, computer vision technology immediately detects a customer’s arrival and triggers a text message confirming the start of her or his parking session. When finished, customers are charged for the exact duration of their stay, eliminating the need for looking for payment kiosks, getting ticketed for expired time or paying for more time than they used.

Subscription parking and validated parking will also be improved, with the scan of a QR code or a phone tap granting weekly and monthly access.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/technology/of-note-23-april-2021/article_898ed2c4-a3ba-11eb-9d1a-ff9163cf6409.html

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On 4/21/2021 at 8:34 AM, markhollin said:

The bidding process for a private partner to upgrade and run the city's on-street parking meters has begun

Mayor John Cooper's administration wants to upgrade Nashville's largely coin-operated meters with a user-friendly system to increase compliance. The scope of any future deal will focus on the 725 meters downtown and 975 meters in the Midtown and Vanderbilt area. There won't be an expansion or changes to rates and hours of enforcement. At least not initially.

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/21/nashville-opens-bidding-parking-meter-contract/7284298002/

I'm curious how this will go, I would guess without demand-based pricing it will be less appealing to private partners. Politically, I wonder if it would be better to implement that now and bundle all the unpopular stuff together because increased enforcement is going to generate a ton of ill will no matter what.

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Passing along two comments from a district meeting I attended:

1) why does Nashville continue to invest in transit (which is an extremely expensive and outdated technology that nobody wants anymore)?

2) what's the point of Amtrak in the age of self-driving cars?

 

**as always, please don't shoot the messenger (me)

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18 hours ago, LA_TN said:

Passing along two comments from a district meeting I attended:

1) why does Nashville continue to invest in transit (which is an extremely expensive and outdated technology that nobody wants anymore)?

2) what's the point of Amtrak in the age of self-driving cars?

 

**as always, please don't shoot the messenger (me)

Well, I expect that Cancel Culture took care of the source(s) of that comment slobber.

They probably left the meeting with bite marks on their a$$es...

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