Population Growth

[RegalTDP]

On 4/22/2022 at 8:07 AM, GRDadof3 said:

I've heard that the weather is the same year-round, every day. And that the Pacific is freezing cold year-round as well (which is why Navy Seals train there). Doesn't sound like heaven to me (not that I like our weather in February - April). 

It actually does rain sometimes in California, in Winter and Spring.  Having lived in both SD and LA, I agree SD's climate is better.  Less smoggy and the ocean breeze carries farther. Downtown SD > Downtown LA too.

California water is cold b/c ocean currents circulate clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere, so Pacific currents hit the West Coast from the Arctic, whereas the Atlantic currents come up to the East Coast from the Tropics.  But, I don't think the Pacific is any colder than Lake Michigan.

I'm going to re-up my old postings in the "GR's Best Assets" thread to reiterate what it's like to come back to Michigan after living out west.  I have to admit since posting this though, I find myself getting less and less tolerant of cold weather like I used to.  I think it's an age thing.

[GRDadof3]

3 hours ago, RegalTDP said:

It actually does rain sometimes in California, in Winter and Spring.  Having lived in both SD and LA, I agree SD's climate is better.  Less smoggy and the ocean breeze carries farther. Downtown SD > Downtown LA too.

California water is cold b/c ocean currents circulate clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere, so Pacific currents hit the West Coast from the Arctic, whereas the Atlantic currents come up to the East Coast from the Tropics.  But, I don't think the Pacific is any colder than Lake Michigan.

I'm going to re-up my old postings in the "GR's Best Assets" thread to reiterate what it's like to come back to Michigan after living out west.  I have to admit since posting this though, I find myself getting less and less tolerant of cold weather like I used to.  I think it's an age thing.

I didn't suggest that the Pacific is colder than Lake Michigan, but if someone is describing "heaven" than that would not be it. I too find it harder and harder every year to tolerate cold weather, but the summers and Fall are great here. Hence: snowbirding. But I wouldn't pick anywhere in California for the warm portion. Cool place to visit, rough place to live. I've met so many people in real estate who moved from California that I've definitely lost count. 

[walker]

This pseudo news article on Microsoft Edge caught my eye.  It's nothing more than a listicle of metro areas of where people are moving to Grand Rapids from.  In typical listicle format. it's a countdown by metro area with a separate page with a little background information for each entry.  Despite it essentially being clickbait, I think it is probably reasonably accurate information culled from census data.

stacker.com: metros sending most people to grand rapids

And here is sort of the reverse:

stacker.com: metros where people from grand rapids are getting new jobs

   

[GR8scott]

12 hours ago, walker said:

This pseudo news article on Microsoft Edge caught my eye.  It's nothing more than a listicle of metro areas of where people are moving to Grand Rapids from.  In typical listicle format. it's a countdown by metro area with a separate page with a little background information for each entry.  Despite it essentially being clickbait, I think it is probably reasonably accurate information culled from census data.

stacker.com: metros sending most people to grand rapids

And here is sort of the reverse:

stacker.com: metros where people from grand rapids are getting new jobs

   

The job one is basically cities with close proximity, plus FL, TX, and AZ...Looking at the net migration is very interesting considering how many more people move from Houston, Boston, DC, Atlanta, LA,  Albany, even Nashville and then the ones that moved from out of GR to Muskegon, AA, Minneapolis are all somewhat surprising to me. 

[Khorasaurus1]

1 hour ago, GR8scott said:

The job one is basically cities with close proximity, plus FL, TX, and AZ...Looking at the net migration is very interesting considering how many more people move from Houston, Boston, DC, Atlanta, LA,  Albany, even Nashville and then the ones that moved from out of GR to Muskegon, AA, Minneapolis are all somewhat surprising to me. 

Albany sent 178 people to GR and received 0 in return, which is funny. Though I personally know someone who moved from Holland to Albany, but Holland's not in the GR metro, right? Just the Combined Statistical Area?

[RegalTDP]

18 hours ago, Khorasaurus1 said:

Albany sent 178 people to GR and received 0 in return, which is funny. Though I personally know someone who moved from Holland to Albany, but Holland's not in the GR metro, right? Just the Combined Statistical Area?

All of Ottawa County is in Grand Rapids-Kentwood MSA. The CSA adds Muskegon and Allegan counties.

So, your friend lived in the MSA if they were on the Ottawa side of Holland, and CSA if they were on the Allegan side. 

Edited June 1 by RegalTDP

[walker]

The Detroit News published an article about the census bureau's annual population estimate.  It says Michigan experienced its first population decline  in a decade.  As one would expect, most of the decline is in the southeast part of the state.  However, buried lower in the article it say Grand Rapids declined by more than a thousand.  I assume this means the city of Grand Rapids rather than the MSI since the accompanying interactive map shows both Kent and Ottawa counties gaining population.  Article contains some talking head speculation and not a whole lot of context or details though, so I don't know what to make of this other than we live in confusing times:

DETROIT NEWS: Michigan population declines for first time in a decade; experts urge action

[GRDadof3]

12 hours ago, walker said:

The Detroit News published an article about the census bureau's annual population estimate.  It says Michigan experienced its first population decline  in a decade.  As one would expect, most of the decline is in the southeast part of the state.  However, buried lower in the article it say Grand Rapids declined by more than a thousand.  I assume this means the city of Grand Rapids rather than the MSI since the accompanying interactive map shows both Kent and Ottawa counties gaining population.  Article contains some talking head speculation and not a whole lot of context or details though, so I don't know what to make of this other than we live in confusing times:

DETROIT NEWS: Michigan population declines for first time in a decade; experts urge action

Kent County gained, but the city of GR must have shrunk a bit. I saw an article that said 17 states shrank in population. A lot of that number was covid.