Dream Hotel (former Climax and Utopia) and Printers Alley Redevelopment, mid-2018 completion

[markhollin 28111]

Looking SE along 4th Ave. North at Bankers Alley:

 

Looking east from 4th Ave. North:

 

Looking NE from 4th AVe. North just north of Church St:

Cleaning facade of old Utopia Hotel (part of the project).  Looking SE from 4th Ave. North:




Looking north along Printers Alley from Church St:

 

Looking west from Printers Alley:

Looking SW from Printers Alley:

Looking west into one of the restaurant/club entrances along Printers Alley:

[markhollin 28111]

Looking north from 12th floor of Noelle Hotel:

 

Looking NE from same vantage point:

[MLBrumby 4390]

Wow!  That whole side of 4th Avenue will be like no other street in the South. That new hotel with the Noelle... and even the quirky hotel with a bank branch in the lobby and a front courtyard called The Bobby... then the Fairlane. All adjacent to Bankers and Printers alley.  Unique! 

And that first shot of Dream you posted above is so cool. The elevator shafts exposed and the blue sub-wall. And it appears to be taller than Noelle... but that may just be camera angle. 

[PHofKS 5064]

12 hours ago, MLBrumby said:

Wow!  That whole side of 4th Avenue will be like no other street in the South. That new hotel with the Noelle... and even the quirky hotel with a bank branch in the lobby and a front courtyard called The Bobby... then the Fairlane. All adjacent to Bankers and Printers alley.  Unique! 

As a reference...

[bnacincy 80]

On 1/14/2018 at 2:56 AM, PHofKS said:

As a reference...

 

On 1/13/2018 at 2:31 PM, MLBrumby said:

Wow!  That whole side of 4th Avenue will be like no other street in the South. That new hotel with the Noelle... and even the quirky hotel with a bank branch in the lobby and a front courtyard called The Bobby... then the Fairlane. All adjacent to Bankers and Printers alley.  Unique! 

And that first shot of Dream you posted above is so cool. The elevator shafts exposed and the blue sub-wall. And it appears to be taller than Noelle... but that may just be camera angle. 

Now all that needs to be done is to tear down the office bldg. at 4th and Church and bring the Maxwell House back where it belongs.......preferably an iconic art deco structure along  the lines of the Netherlands Plaza Hotel here in Cincy!

 

[markhollin 28111]

Looking SE along 4th Ave. North at Bankers Alley:

Looking NE from 4th Ave. North just north of Church St:

Looking SE from 4th Ave. North:




Looking SW from Bankers Alley at intersection with Printers Alley:

[archilove 131]

The older elements are the eyecatchers on this project, but I do think they did a good job of adding new pieces that work well with the old.

[donNdonelson2 2322]

7 hours ago, archilove said:

The older elements are the eyecatchers on this project, but I do think they did a good job of adding new pieces that work well with the old.

Remember, one of the historic facades was dismantled and will be reinstalled to put another old familiar face back on Fourth Avenue North!

(The facade just to the left of center in this rendering is the one of which I speak.)

Edited February 17 by donNdonelson2
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[thenorthchannel 220]

Stumbled upon the Dream Hotel in Hollywood, CA while in LA for New Year's Eve.   Fingers crossed they use similar lighting elements here!

[markhollin 28111]

Looking south along 4th Ave. North from top floor of Fairlane Hotel:
 

[CenterHill 2615]

Damn, that's a big blank wall. 

 

[Vrtigo 2458]

4 hours ago, CenterHill said:

Damn, that's a big blank wall. 

The way the windows are recessed makes me think they expect it to inevitably be covered by an adjacent structure. I certainly wouldn't mind at all if that were to occur.

[Neigeville2 1185]

In the meantime, an enormous mural would seem to be called for.

[NashvilleObserver 902]

27 minutes ago, Neigeville2 said:

In the meantime, an enormous mural would seem to be called for.

I don't agree. Murals are nice in certain spots, but can be a bit much sometimes. 

[CandyAisles 159]

I suppose this is the appropriate time to explain firewalls to everyone.  If you are on a property line, you must provide a fire rating.  Fire rated walls  (in this case, a 2 hour wall) won't allow for any windows...even with fire-rated glass.  If you are 5'-0" or greater away from the edge of the property, you can start to introduce such windows and doors in greater numbers, but it is still very low.  If anyone is expecting to see windows on an edge of a building in downtown Nashville, they have to expect the owner of the property to give up free square footage development...which is why on these infill jobs you will see these huge walls with nothing on them.  Think: Cambria, Rhythm on Demonbreun, Hyatt Place, etc.

[Pdt2f 1975]

1 hour ago, CandyAisles said:

I suppose this is the appropriate time to explain firewalls to everyone.  If you are on a property line, you must provide a fire rating.  Fire rated walls  (in this case, a 2 hour wall) won't allow for any windows...even with fire-rated glass.  If you are 5'-0" or greater away from the edge of the property, you can start to introduce such windows and doors in greater numbers, but it is still very low.  If anyone is expecting to see windows on an edge of a building in downtown Nashville, they have to expect the owner of the property to give up free square footage development...which is why on these infill jobs you will see these huge walls with nothing on them.  Think: Cambria, Rhythm on Demonbreun, Hyatt Place, etc.

So that would explain why the windows on the side of this building are recessed in those little trenches running from top to bottom, because they had to gain the necessary distance from the property line? 

[CandyAisles 159]

1 hour ago, Pdt2f said:

So that would explain why the windows on the side of this building are recessed in those little trenches running from top to bottom, because they had to gain the necessary distance from the property line? 

Yup.  Another tactic is to stick balcony edges on the face of the building and have the balcony depth be 5'-0" recessed.  The adjacent property owner has the right to build right up to the property line with a solid wall...which is the amusing thing about some of these condo units.  Hotel units you can sell to anyone for the most part.

[nashvylle 1228]

5 hours ago, CandyAisles said:

I suppose this is the appropriate time to explain firewalls to everyone.  If you are on a property line, you must provide a fire rating.  Fire rated walls  (in this case, a 2 hour wall) won't allow for any windows...even with fire-rated glass.  If you are 5'-0" or greater away from the edge of the property, you can start to introduce such windows and doors in greater numbers, but it is still very low.  If anyone is expecting to see windows on an edge of a building in downtown Nashville, they have to expect the owner of the property to give up free square footage development...which is why on these infill jobs you will see these huge walls with nothing on them.  Think: Cambria, Rhythm on Demonbreun, Hyatt Place, etc.

what is defined as a property line and what isn't? IE how come some sides of Cambria, Rhythm, Hyatt Place have windows and then they have this property line side/fire rated wall?

[CandyAisles 159]

4 minutes ago, nashvylle said:

what is defined as a property line and what isn't? IE how come some sides of Cambria, Rhythm, Hyatt Place have windows and then they have this property line side/fire rated wall?

Fair point...property lines that are adjacent to another owner's property line...No street or alley adjacency, in short.  Even the JW Marriot has property line edges that border another property.  As it starts to peel away with the curve off to the left, it becomes glass.

[markhollin 28111]

Getting ready for the facade facing 4th Avenue North from the original hotel to be placed.  Also, brick work along Printers Alley (I believe they are utilizing some of the original bricks on this as well.  So pleased with how this is all turning out.

Looking east from 4th Ave. North, 1/2 block north of Church St:

 

Looking NE along 4th Ave. North, just north of Church St:

Looking SE along 4th Ave. North, 1/2 block south of Union St:

Looking NW along Printers Alley:

Looking SW along Printers Alley:

Looking SW from Bankers Alley, just east of Printers Alley:

Looking west from Printers Alley:

[BnaBreaker 5474]

Wow, I'm sure this is what they were going for, but that brickwork along Printer's Alley has a real aged feel to it!  Love it!