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Wow!  That whole side of 4th Avenue will be like no other street in the South. That new hotel with the Noelle... and even the quirky hotel with a bank branch in the lobby and a front courtyard called The Bobby... then the Fairlane. All adjacent to Bankers and Printers alley.  Unique! 

And that first shot of Dream you posted above is so cool. The elevator shafts exposed and the blue sub-wall. And it appears to be taller than Noelle... but that may just be camera angle. 

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On 1/14/2018 at 2:56 AM, PHofKS said:

As a reference...

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On 1/13/2018 at 2:31 PM, MLBrumby said:

Wow!  That whole side of 4th Avenue will be like no other street in the South. That new hotel with the Noelle... and even the quirky hotel with a bank branch in the lobby and a front courtyard called The Bobby... then the Fairlane. All adjacent to Bankers and Printers alley.  Unique! 

And that first shot of Dream you posted above is so cool. The elevator shafts exposed and the blue sub-wall. And it appears to be taller than Noelle... but that may just be camera angle. 

Now all that needs to be done is to tear down the office bldg. at 4th and Church and bring the Maxwell House back where it belongs.......preferably an iconic art deco structure along  the lines of the Netherlands Plaza Hotel here in Cincy!

 

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The older elements are the eyecatchers on this project, but I do think they did a good job of adding new pieces that work well with the old.

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7 hours ago, archilove said:

The older elements are the eyecatchers on this project, but I do think they did a good job of adding new pieces that work well with the old.

Remember, one of the historic facades was dismantled and will be reinstalled to put another old familiar face back on Fourth Avenue North!

(The facade just to the left of center in this rendering is the one of which I speak.)

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4 hours ago, CenterHill said:

Damn, that's a big blank wall. 

The way the windows are recessed makes me think they expect it to inevitably be covered by an adjacent structure. I certainly wouldn't mind at all if that were to occur.

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27 minutes ago, Neigeville2 said:

In the meantime, an enormous mural would seem to be called for.

I don't agree. Murals are nice in certain spots, but can be a bit much sometimes. 

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1 hour ago, CandyAisles said:

I suppose this is the appropriate time to explain firewalls to everyone.  If you are on a property line, you must provide a fire rating.  Fire rated walls  (in this case, a 2 hour wall) won't allow for any windows...even with fire-rated glass.  If you are 5'-0" or greater away from the edge of the property, you can start to introduce such windows and doors in greater numbers, but it is still very low.  If anyone is expecting to see windows on an edge of a building in downtown Nashville, they have to expect the owner of the property to give up free square footage development...which is why on these infill jobs you will see these huge walls with nothing on them.  Think: Cambria, Rhythm on Demonbreun, Hyatt Place, etc.

So that would explain why the windows on the side of this building are recessed in those little trenches running from top to bottom, because they had to gain the necessary distance from the property line? 

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1 hour ago, Pdt2f said:

So that would explain why the windows on the side of this building are recessed in those little trenches running from top to bottom, because they had to gain the necessary distance from the property line? 

Yup.  Another tactic is to stick balcony edges on the face of the building and have the balcony depth be 5'-0" recessed.  The adjacent property owner has the right to build right up to the property line with a solid wall...which is the amusing thing about some of these condo units.  Hotel units you can sell to anyone for the most part.

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5 hours ago, CandyAisles said:

I suppose this is the appropriate time to explain firewalls to everyone.  If you are on a property line, you must provide a fire rating.  Fire rated walls  (in this case, a 2 hour wall) won't allow for any windows...even with fire-rated glass.  If you are 5'-0" or greater away from the edge of the property, you can start to introduce such windows and doors in greater numbers, but it is still very low.  If anyone is expecting to see windows on an edge of a building in downtown Nashville, they have to expect the owner of the property to give up free square footage development...which is why on these infill jobs you will see these huge walls with nothing on them.  Think: Cambria, Rhythm on Demonbreun, Hyatt Place, etc.

what is defined as a property line and what isn't? IE how come some sides of Cambria, Rhythm, Hyatt Place have windows and then they have this property line side/fire rated wall?

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4 minutes ago, nashvylle said:

what is defined as a property line and what isn't? IE how come some sides of Cambria, Rhythm, Hyatt Place have windows and then they have this property line side/fire rated wall?

Fair point...property lines that are adjacent to another owner's property line...No street or alley adjacency, in short.  Even the JW Marriot has property line edges that border another property.  As it starts to peel away with the curve off to the left, it becomes glass.

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Restoration of the facade continues, as well as brickwork along 4th Ave.

Looking SE along 4th Ave. North, 1/2 block south of Union St:
 

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Nashville-based 4PANT LLC and Dream Hotel Group LLC have landed a permit valued at $4.5 million related to a future restaurant in their boutique Dream Hotel to open by year’s end.  Shaub Construction Co. handling the job. 

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