PHofKS

19th and Broadway; 248 Unit Apts. (255 ft, 22 stories), 196 Room Hilton Curio Hotel (16 Stories, 188 ft)

32 posts in this topic


Sorry, there was another thread.

Please delete or merge...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Any evidence that they are on schedule?  I'm nervous that the new owners of the Rudy house could run out of time to move it.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So...will they demolish the house and rebuild...or just move it somehow to Marathon?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I was wondering about this last week. I was driving by the vacant Noshville and thinking it was a shame they closed that location to just sit empty so long.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Loved me some Noshville!

If memory serves, Noshville shuttered that location early due to Obama-care related expenses and not just because of the pending redevelopment....


Noshville Closing

But come Dec. 27, the midtown Nashville location of the restaurant, one of two Loventhal owns, will be closing its doors in part because of Obamacare, he said.

“Having more than 50 full-time employees means you have to comply with the Affordable Care Act, and it was an unknown risk of how much it was going to cost,” he told The Daily Signal. “But it was going to be significant, and take a lot of time and labor to take care of the transition and the reporting and the forms.”

Loventhal originally planned to shutter the location within the first few months of 2016 after a developer purchased the building where Noshville’s has sat for the last 19 years. 

But when Loventhal learned he would be faced with the added expense of providing his more than 50 employees with health insurance come Jan. 1—he estimated it would cost between $70,000 and $100,000 annually—Loventhal decided to close Noshville’s doors before the provision of Obamacare overseeing businesses, the employer mandate, goes fully into effect.

“It’s an onerous bill, and for a small business, it’s a lot of time [to comply],” he said. “I’ve been studying this for three years, and I really couldn’t come up with a good answer, and I feel sorry for closing this business.”

 

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Completely different development as the one that is proposed for the Noshville lot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Ah I forgot that background and that this one is down the street. Still ... hate driving by that closed Noshville location!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well then you should be extremely happy....those who lost their jobs probably less so. In case you never ate there you may be interested to know that the employees were well compensated between wages and tips. The majority of the staff who waited on me had worked for Noshville for over 10 years. 

Edited by nashville_bound
2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

^ ^ ^ I always thought the owner's reasoning for not wanting to reopen the Midtown restaurant at another location kinda flimsy ("I can't afford Obamacare for my employees").  If that is truly the case, why doesn't he also close his Green Hills and BNA locations?  Not meaning to get into a discussion here...just making a point. If anyone wants to converse with me directly via a personal message, that would be fine.

4 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


He could not find a location with decent rent either.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
39 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

He could not find a location with decent rent either.

So basically his business was suffering and he decided to blame it on Obamacare. I like Noshville, but there are countless other good options now, that hasn't always been the case. He wasn't able to adapt and compensate his employees adequately. It happens.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, markhollin said:

I always thought the owner's reasoning for not wanting to reopen the Midtown restaurant at another location kinda flimsy ("I can't afford Obamacare for my employees").  If that is truly the case, why doesn't he also close his Green Hills and BNA locations?

ACA compliance kicks in at 50 full-time equivalents. I don't know the specifics of Loventhal's business but I would bet he can operate his remaining locations while staying below that threshold, while keeping the Midtown location open (or opening future locations) would put him over it.

At that point it becomes an exercise of identifying your two most-profitable locations, or more likely in his case, deciding that relocating in the midst of downsizing wasn't worth the trouble.

3 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

BNA is franchised.

I really don't think he wants to be in the restaurant business any longer. There is a lot more to the story not be told on this board.

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So is anything hearing anything on this?  Really curious if this is still on track.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Been wondering that too. That stretch of Broadway is looking a little forlorn, with graffiti on the old Noshville location and the corner pub shut down. I know all that is because of investment by this group, Vandy, etc., but this limbo period is leaving that stretch looking rundown.

3 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah I was hoping that locking up the Curio brand hotel would help this thing get going but the slowdown in high-end apartments may be hitting at just the wrong time for this.  I guess it's in wait-and-see mode now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Isn't this one of the earlier projects that was announced? Ironic, isn't it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just don't tear down the historic house on the property and then not build anything! Isn't the house the one that someone was raising money to move it to the marathon motors area? Is that still in play?

4 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, nightranger36 said:

Just don't tear down the historic house on the property and then not build anything! Isn't the house the one that someone was raising money to move it to the marathon motors area? Is that still in play?

That's what I was thinking.  If this project is dead, that means they'll tear the house down.  Someone needs to get over there and stop the demo! ;)

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By PHofKS
      Eakin Partners now has a website promoting the 2018 opening of their 12 story spec office building in the western end of Mid-town in Nashville.

       
       
       
    • By markhollin
      Spectrum | Emery Inc. has offered specifics and has released an image for its 18th & Chet office building planned for Music Row. The 10-story building, to anchor the northeast corner of 18th Avenue South and Chet Atkins Place, will span about 130,000 square feet, with Nashville-based Earl Swensson Associates to serve as architect.
      Spectrum | Emery has the multi-parcel property under contract and hopes to close on the purchase by August’s end. David Wells, Spectrum | Emery vice president, told NBJ the company expects to ask about $38 per square foot.
      An early to mid-2018 completion date is being eyed.      --Nashville Post, June 23, 2016



      The development is within the light blue square in the center of this screenshot from Smeagolsfree's excellent Nashville Metro Development Map:
    • By markhollin
      This thread will be committed to spotlighting and discussing historical Nashville structures (older than 1940) that have been repurposed/revitalized or should be considered for such. With all of our booming new development, it is nice to also see older structures with character being utilized for fresh purposes.  Some of these were once working factories, or administrative buildings, or warehouses, or churches, or machine shops, or mills, or armories, or retail/restaurant establishments. When posting about a particular structure or block, it would be great if you could provide links or brief mentions as to their histories, what they are being used for now (or what you envision they could be), and photos would most certainly be welcomed.

      Let's get things started with a group of buildings that have been re-imagined numerous times since their initial construction in 1883: Cannery Row. Located on the NE edge of the railroad yards known as the Gulch, and facing 8th Avenue South as it's primary entry point on it's eastern edge. Originally it was built as a warehousing for the food processing industry, with an emphasis on wheat products. In the 1920s it was known for it's coffee distribution. By the late 50s it had converted to canning for jams, jellies, mustard, ketchup, and peanut butter.  In the late 70s one of its large rooms was converted in a music room for country artists. Since then it has evolved into several well-know such rooms (Cannery Ballroom, Mercy Lounge, High Watt), as well as the home of many businesses, many of which are for more creative types.

      I believe that the revitalization of The Cannery was a main factor in the same happening at Cummins Station, and then spilled across the tracks into the transformation of The Gulch.

      More history and a nice slide show is available here:

      http://canneryrownashville.com/
       



    • By MTSUBlueraider86
      Here is the latest version of the Development Map. I have not listed the link for the larger older map because it became too unwieldy......Ron!
      http://www.communitywalk.com/nashville/tn/current_nashville_construction_/map/1690961
       

      http://www.skyscrape...Skyscraper News
      From Tim May
      http://www.nashville...owntownCode.pdf
      project database for Nashville
      http://www.facebook....111138045574263
      Historic Nashville, Inc. - http://www.facebook....ricnashvilleinc
      Save The Prison - page to help promote saving the historical TN St prison - http://www.facebook....anLandInstitute
      There are some other sites listed in other post. These are the main ones, but the list just got out of hand when combining all the sites.