River North, 105-acre Cowan Street corridor, Phase One: five 4-7 stories, 650 residences, 85 K sq. ft. retail, 50 K sq. ft. office, mile long riverfront park; Phase Two: two 12 story office buildings, pedestrian bridge across river

[Rick Dalton]

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[Luvemtall]

 

If GBT builds a all office tower and they go to the max 38 stories, we can be in the 500-525 foot range. Does that sound correct? 

Edited March 4, 2022 by Luvemtall

[Bos2Nash]

1 hour ago, smeagolsfree said:

Max height allowed is 25. per Metro document 

25 floors is base height for subdistrict 2 per the RiverNorth UDO.  Subdistrict 1 is a base height of 15 floors. Bonus height allows 38 floors in subdistrict 2 and 18 in subdistrict 1.

Here is a map of the two subdistricts. The Landings are approximately the red outlined area.

Here is the bonus height chart within the UDO (different from the DTC) that tells us the max height in subdistrict 2 is 38 floors

From an ROI perspective, I see GBT trying to maximize height, but there is nothing being proposed even at 10 stories currently in River North, so a 38 floor structure may look very odd.

[Bos2Nash]

18 hours ago, Bos2Nash said:

2 hours ago, Bos2Nash said:

Lots C, D and E are all multi-family (99% sure I'll have to check some reference files I have in the office).

Confirmed that Parcels D and E are indeed multi family. The Oxbow (Parcel D) will have 296 units. The Wayward (Parcel E) will have 355 units. Parcel C (just announced building) will contain 433 units. All these figures are pulled from public documents that have been submitted to Metro so these are the number are permitted (or expected to be permitted) units. This brings the tally of residential units up to 1,084 units of residential in The Landings.

[markhollin]

A summary piece on River North Landings Phase II at NashvilleNowNext:

https://nashvillenownext.com/2022/03/07/river-north-surpasses-1000-units-with-new-mixed-use-development/
 

[Native]

On 3/7/2022 at 12:06 PM, markhollin said:

A summary piece on River North Landings Phase II at NashvilleNowNext:

https://nashvillenownext.com/2022/03/07/river-north-surpasses-1000-units-with-new-mixed-use-development/
 

I saw some buildings like this when I was in Serbia.

[Bos2Nash]

On 3/7/2022 at 12:06 PM, markhollin said:

This facade is causing some headaches as it does not meet code requirements for openings in an exterior wall. Because this façade is on an interior lot line, depending on how close they are to the property line they are limited to a percentage of the wall having openings. This facade is right up on the property line which means they would be allowed only 25% of the wall to be open - this is clearly alot more than that. If the property was butting up to a public ROW it would not be an issue, but it is butting up to private property so there are some rather big issues with it.

This would be very similar to how the Orbison building fought the 1601 Broadway project because they put windows in their zero lot line façade and then complained about the 1601 Broadway enough that an easement was finally agreed to in order to preserve the windows.  This is on top of being a big fire issue.

[nashvylle]

17 hours ago, Bos2Nash said:

This facade is causing some headaches as it does not meet code requirements for openings in an exterior wall. Because this façade is on an interior lot line, depending on how close they are to the property line they are limited to a percentage of the wall having openings. This facade is right up on the property line which means they would be allowed only 25% of the wall to be open - this is clearly alot more than that. If the property was butting up to a public ROW it would not be an issue, but it is butting up to private property so there are some rather big issues with it.

This would be very similar to how the Orbison building fought the 1601 Broadway project because they put windows in their zero lot line façade and then complained about the 1601 Broadway enough that an easement was finally agreed to in order to preserve the windows.  This is on top of being a big fire issue.

Couldn't the windows be fire-rated? extremely expensive, but could be the reason. 

[nashville born]

At the risk of drawing someone's ire, I'll say it.  This one reminds me of Haven with its long, flat, unimaginative lines.  Not as unattractive, yet some similarities to me.

[Auntie Yock]

Gooch North?

[titanhog]

1 hour ago, Auntie Yock said:

Gooch North?

River Gooch 

[Bos2Nash]

3 hours ago, nashvylle said:

Couldn't the windows be fire-rated? extremely expensive, but could be the reason. 

If they were set back from the property line, yes. But they are on the property line and essentially have created a party wall with windows in it.  Based "fire separation distance" exterior walls are limited in how much of the wall can be open, no matter the rating. 

Definition of fire separation distance.

If this property was up against a public ROW there wouldn't be an issue because the measuring distance is much further from the façade (middle of the ROW), but because they are up against a private parcel the measurement point is the property line (it is an interior lot line) and as you can see from the table above openings are just not permitted at the property line. Think of it this way, this proposed building is on the property line and has residential units with windows on the property line. The owner of the abutting property could then come back and build a new building with a wall up against this proposed building's wall and now all those residential units are unhabitable because the windows are completely covered and more importantly no longer serve as a secondary means of egress for the residents.

[markhollin]

Looking west from I-24 inner belt, north of Spring St. Exit:

[CenterHill]

1 hour ago, markhollin said:

Looking west from I-24 inner belt, north of Spring St. Exit:

Is that fill material, brought in to raise the overall level of the site?  

[Bos2Nash]

7 minutes ago, CenterHill said:

Is that fill material, brought in to raise the overall level of the site?  

It could be a number of reasons why they have it on site. Raising the site is an option, although looking at the Civil drawings for at least Phase II it doesn't seem like they are raising it much (if at all). Another option it could be for is clean, engineered fill. There may have been abatement of the site from the years of industrial use and they need to remove and replace that contaminated ground soil with clean fill. 

[lmc123]

It would be great if there was a Kroger or Publix at the top north property that Monroe still owns that backs up to I24/I65 split.

The nearest Kroger/Publix is all the way on Gallatin Pike in East Nashville past the train tracks/Ellington or you can choose the sketchy Kroger on Rosa Parks or even the one on Clarksville Pike. With the Cleveland Street extension over to Dickerson, this would also be ideal if the Skyline East 1,500 units are built and you can easily take that over there. 

[markhollin]

River North Landings (1, 3, & 7 stories,  647 units, 80,700 sq. ft. of office, 44,000 sq. ft. of retail, internal garages) update: foundation walls and pillars rising for underground garage.

Looking SE across the river from Taylor St. where it dead ends into Cumberland River:

Looking east across the river from Taylor St. where it dead ends into Cumberland River:

[markhollin]

River North Landings (1, 3, & 7 stories,  647 units, 80,700 sq. ft. of office, 44,000 sq. ft. of retail, internal garages) update: foundation walls and more pillars rising for garage.

Looking SE across the river from Taylor St. where it dead ends into Cumberland River:

[markhollin]

Looking west from I-24 inner belt, just north of Spring St. exit:

[BeaveStirs]

Do we know when the first phase is set to be completed?

[Sean blackdog]

Yesterday evening. 

[Luvemtall]

What becomes of these new roads and all the necessary infrastructure for RiverNorth that has been done, if the plan changes to have that new spine road that is in the East Bank plans? Do they hopefully just cut in a new intersection at the point that these roads converge? And is waiting on that plan the reason why other projects like the RMR and GBT haven’t moved forward? Regardless of if a new stadium is built or not, a completed plan on infrastructure is needed , so the EastBank transformation can progress full steam ahead. Oracle is expected to start construction within the next year, how does that all tie into this?

[Nashvillain]

31 minutes ago, Sean blackdog said:

Yesterday evening. 

Oh, cool. They must be doing protected bike lanes above the curb...

[PaulChinetti]

Oh lord, who's district is that, we need to email bomb them immediately. 

Who approves this crap?

[downtownresident]

1 hour ago, PaulChinetti said:

Oh lord, who's district is that, we need to email bomb them immediately. 

Who approves this crap?

Sean Parker