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Norfolk Gateway (It’s Complicated)


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4 hours ago, lammius said:

As rendered, this looks short of 300 feet. Those first 8 floors look like parking. I’m guessing this comes in around 260-270. Need the study to find more demand or that a smaller floor plate (sq feet per floor) is a smarter move for some reason to increase the number of floors. 

The giant "PARK" sign is a good giveaway that the lower portion of this building is going to be a garage, so I would say the 260-270 range would be more accurate. 

Just to throw out a hypothetical, I wonder if one of the tenants for this building would be the City Hall in a temporary sense. It would be a good way to move into a new building to vacate the current City Hall building. Then tear that building down and redevelop the rest of the land with a new City Hall build along with potentially other buildings. My guess would be a City Hall designed around the light rail stop. That is how I would do it if I was in charge.

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It looks a little bit awkward in the video being by itself basically on that block, which isn't a bad thing. The lower portion definitely looks like a parking garage, but the black wall part on the eastern side makes me wonder if there is some serious future plans to this whole area. I am willing to bet this tower is planned to be the shorter of the towers that would be built on this site. Which could potentially mean Norfolk might get a new tallest in the future. Obviously that is just my speculation watching the video, not any insider info or anything.

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I agree, looking at the reverse angle from I264, only part of city hall shown is the tower.

Is it possible that they are going to save the tower, but demolish the two story portion that fronts Union St. and change the main entrance to the tower to at the new round-about Main St extension?

Perhaps the office building that the city bought will temporarily house those departments? 

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Doubt they will add extra stories. Usually it's the opposite. But hopefully this will start other projects in this immediate area. I would like to see the Plume Street flat parking lot built upon. I think relocating the Norfolk Juvenile Family Court to a new building would be ideal, then demolishing the existing eye sore building to build something new (and hopefully taller).

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2 hours ago, zeppelin14 said:

Doubt they will add extra stories. Usually it's the opposite. But hopefully this will start other projects in this immediate area. I would like to see the Plume Street flat parking lot built upon. I think relocating the Norfolk Juvenile Family Court to a new building would be ideal, then demolishing the existing eye sore building to build something new (and hopefully taller).

I may be wrong but isn't the juvenile court moving into the new courts building once phase 2 is complete and the school is taking over their current space? But I do agree that building does need to be replaced.

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I would be shocked if this tower came to fruition with the departure of Norfolk southern from the NS tower. It's going to take a long time to fill that hole unfortunately. :(

Our best bet would be if Gadams, or maybe even Cordish, would take over that tower and convert it to a art ends.

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On 12/12/2018 at 1:22 PM, vdogg said:

I would be shocked if this tower came to fruition with the departure of Norfolk southern from the NS tower. It's going to take a long time to fill that hole unfortunately. :(

Our best bet would be if Gadams, or maybe even Cordish, would take over that tower and convert it to a art ends.

That all depends, who was planning on moving into the Gateway Tower? There is a possibility that the Gateway Tower still gets built while NS Tower sits empty waiting for a new tenant or collection of tenants. Also who owns the NS Tower? There is a possibility that the NS Tower would see some renovating and leased off to smaller businesses from around the region looking to concolidate. 

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I do not want the NS tower to be turned into residential at all and I don't think it will be. Perhaps ADP could occupy it and move (completely) their HQ here. The Gateway tower seems to have been a personal project of a local business so I don't see NS being vacant or available cancelling Gateway. Still though, one never knows. I think when Gaddams turned the office building into Icon it actually helped the need for something like Gateway.

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