Norfolk Gateway (It’s Complicated)

[baobabs727]

Sounds like you're right. Good news is that they are still working on all fronts and the rendering was, as he put it, "a brand new and never before seen" release of the redesign.  In progress! Looks awesome. 

[vdogg]

Better view of the new rendering.

 

[Willy18]

I would like to see other views of this new design before making a decision...but it does look much better in that picture.  Attached garages off to the side takes away from the whole look of the building in my opinion. I'm assuming it's not all parking since it states there is a mixed use component. Why not blend them all together and give us a 30+ story tower as the "Gateway" into DT Norfolk. 

[baobabs727]

Um...did we all already know that this project also contains a restaurant & a HOTEL with 150 keys??

http://hewv.com/projects/norfolk-gateway-office-tower/

 

ARCHITECTURE

Civic + Commercial, Administration + Offices

Norfolk, Virginia

May 2018 – Dec. 2020

20 stories

360,000-SF LEED Certified Class-A office tower

150 hotel rooms

fitness space, elevated restaurant, terraced outdoor amenity and break areas

Waterside connectivity and views

Edited July 9, 2019 by baobabs727

[BFG]

Did the design change again, or is that a new angle? Also, is this now a twin tower setup, which might explain the hotel addition. Either way, I love it. 

EDIT: I see the connecting part of the building. I still love it. 

Edited July 10, 2019 by BFG

[baobabs727]

I agree! And bringing it closer to Waterside like this makes so much sense. Makes quite a welcome statement, too!

[urbanlife]

This is very non-Norfolk looking, this is going to be a great standout tower if it gets built looking like this.

[Sani_Va]

Is this a very tall 20 stories? In one of the pictures it looks quite a bit taller than Domionion Tower! 

[vdogg]

14 hours ago, baobabs727 said:

Um...did we all already know that this project also contains a restaurant & a HOTEL with 150 keys??

http://hewv.com/projects/norfolk-gateway-office-tower/

 

ARCHITECTURE

Civic + Commercial, Administration + Offices

Norfolk, Virginia

May 2018 – Dec. 2020

20 stories

360,000-SF LEED Certified Class-A office tower

150 hotel rooms

fitness space, elevated restaurant, terraced outdoor amenity and break areas

Waterside connectivity and views

IF this is accurate, then that is no longer a 20-story tower. Previously it was 260,000 square feet and 20 stories. Now it is 360,000 square feet. Estimating 25,000 square feet per floor, I'd say we've gained 4 floors. That would make this a 24-story building.

[vdogg]

The date hasn't been updated, but this is obviously the newest rendering. I STRONGLY suspect 20-stories is not an accurate figure. At bare minimum, we're at the 22-story figure that Jared Chalk gave a few months ago.

Edit: The news release says 20,000 sq ft floor plate, so we should actually gain 5 floors.

Unless the hotel is part of the shorter portion that wraps the parking garage, which would make sense actually.

[vdogg]

3 hours ago, Sani_Va said:

Is this a very tall 20 stories? In one of the pictures it looks quite a bit taller than Domionion Tower! 

That's only because of the perspective. The building is a lot closer in that rendering, which is why it looks taller. We'll *probably* get 300 ft out of this, which is about on par with the ICON tower. That'll still make it 40 ft shorter than Dominion. Speaking of Dominion, the new Dominion Energy building in Richmond is only 20 stories but 400 ft tall. I wish someone would design one of those for us, lol.

[SuffolkWahoo]

Any idea on when they plan to break ground?  If it happens in next 6 months or so we could potentially have 4 highrises/midrises going up simultaneously?! BOOM

[lammius]

What do they mean by "Waterside connectivity?"

[vdogg]

9 hours ago, lammius said:

What do they mean by "Waterside connectivity?"

Could be anything from the pedestrian bridge that still exist to a shuttle. I wouldn't read too much into it, It’s just marketing speak.

[baobabs727]

5 hours ago, vdogg said:

IF this is accurate, then that is no longer a 20-story tower. Previously it was 260,000 square feet and 20 stories. Now it is 360,000 square feet. Estimating 25,000 square feet per floor, I'd say we've gained 4 floors. That would make this a 24-story building.

 

5 hours ago, vdogg said:

The date hasn't been updated, but this is obviously the newest rendering. I STRONGLY suspect 20-stories is not an accurate figure. At bare minimum, we're at the 22-story figure that Jared Chalk gave a few months ago.

Edit: The news release says 20,000 sq ft floor plate, so we should actually gain 5 floors.

Unless the hotel is part of the shorter portion that wraps the parking garage, which would make sense actually.

I agree, and yet the listing still indicates 20...and I count 20. Interesting.

I wish they would stack this thing on top of the garage and aim for 30+! Now that would be a stellar way for Mr. HL to end a storied and exceptionally long career! 

BTW, very recently HL and his wife gave the Chrysler a Renoir oil.

 

2 hours ago, lammius said:

What do they mean by "Waterside connectivity?"

I think they mean sidewalk access and proximity lol.

[Sani_Va]

11 hours ago, vdogg said:

That's only because of the perspective. The building is a lot closer in that rendering, which is why it looks taller. We'll *probably* get 300 ft out of this, which is about on par with the ICON tower. That'll still make it 40 ft shorter than Dominion. Speaking of Dominion, the new Dominion Energy building in Richmond is only 20 stories but 400 ft tall. I wish someone would design one of those for us, lol.

The pedestrian bridge makes me think the two are just about directly across from each other. I may just be wanting this to be the "Big One" we've all been yearning for so bad. 

[vdogg]

21 minutes ago, Sani_Va said:

The pedestrian bridge makes me think the two are just about directly across from each other. I may just be wanting this to be the "Big One" we've all been yearning for so bad. 

The pedestrian bridge that’s circled in the foreground has been torn down. The one behind it is still standing.

[baobabs727]

It's gone. I watched them take the last piece down. Looks so much better out there now, as that thing was an old eyesore.

[Willy18]

This the bridge you are seeing...and it is now gone like others have said. It's just the perspective that this is shown makes it look like it's part of the project.

Edited July 11, 2019 by Willy18

[vdogg]

Here’s some clean renderings. Looks like tall floor plates. EVMS and CHKD both averaged 14-15 ft per floor for their office towers. Going by that template you get 280 -300ft,  which is pretty much the NS tower compared to ICON. Both those towers have a good presence on the skyline so this should look great being right next to the freeway.

 

[BFG]

All I ask is that the only changes they make involve adding more floors. A building that nice deserves to stand as the tallest one in Norfolk, if not the state.

[vdogg]

Between this and the CHKD tower, I feel like Norfolk may have turned a corner architecture wise. No more bland EIFS paneled monstrosities. Modern architecture using modern material and building something worthy of a major city, finally. Even the EVMS tower has a modern design. My only problem is River Tower, I really wish we had kept the original design on that.

[vdogg]

Been a while since we’ve heard anything on this and I’m getting concerned. I’m really hoping we can get this off the ground before the economy falters again. There’s already signs of a slowdown and if things progress too far it’ll be a long time before we get this tower.  

[likeminded]

5 hours ago, vdogg said:

Been a while since we’ve heard anything on this and I’m getting concerned. I’m really hoping we can get this off the ground before the economy falters again. There’s already signs of a slowdown and if things progress too far it’ll be a long time before we get this tower.  

There aren't really many signs of a slowdown, I think that's just what the media wants us to believe.  The US economy is pretty stable and solid.

[EJ_LEWIS]

True the economy for now is very solid, but we are in the 9th year of a recovery.  The typical lifespan of a robust economy is 10 years.  I wish Norfolk would get this project moving.