Carolina Panthers Facilities

[HopHead]

Can someone map out what the pie-in-the-sky light rail extension to this facility in Ft. Mill from 485 would look like? Just trying to envision how it would have to go through Pineville. 

EDIT: Ok, never mind I found it in the CATS thread. Thanks Scribe!

 

Edited December 14, 2018 by HopHead

[Desert Power]

Will be interesting to see what goes on the current practice site.

[Popsickle]

2 hours ago, pgsinger said:

But in this case, "full season" means from OTAs in Spring to the last game in the winter, so ~9 months.  Many PS players are undrafted free agents or high round (4th - 7th) draft picks.  They usually get a signing bonus , and those have a wide range $0.00 to 7 figures.  I would venture that most are in the $80k range (unless you were a busted 4th round pick).

NFL min is $7200 per week they are on PS.  

[JorgiPorgi]

Having the facility in Fort Mill makes sense. Having LTR to fort mill makes no sense(before airport). Kind of makes me nervous- moving the stadium out of uptown  and into Fort Mill would be a disgusting move for Charlotte. 

[RaleighHeelsfan]

If the panthers ever move out of uptown and especially to SC...i will never pull for them again. In fact...i would hate the Panthers more than any team. Bet many feel the same.

Edited December 14, 2018 by RaleighHeelsfan

[Nick2]

1 minute ago, RaleighHeelsfan said:

If the panthers ever move out of uptown and especially to SC...i will never pull for them again. In fact...i would hate the Panthers more than any team. Bet many feel the same.

I don't think many people would care if they move the stadium somewhere else in Charlotte. But I know a lot of North Carolinians would be hugely upset if they moved to SC.

[J-Rob]

^^Dude.  That is dumb. SC is like 10 miles from the current stadium.  If you stop pulling for the Panthers because their stadium moves 10 miles you're not a fan anyway.   I would be very very disappointed if they moved out of Uptown, but saying you would hate the team seems like a bit much.  That said, I don't think the stadium leaves Uptown.  My guess is Tepper gets incentives from SC for practice facility and headquarters, and incentives from NC for a stadium upgrade or new stadium.  That would be my goal if I were Tepper.

[RaleighHeelsfan]

3 minutes ago, J-Rob said:

^^Dude.  That is dumb. SC is like 10 miles from the current stadium.  If you stop pulling for the Panthers because their stadium moves 10 miles you're not a fan anyway.   I would be very very disappointed if they moved out of Uptown, but saying you would hate the team seems like a bit much.  That said, I don't think the stadium leaves Uptown.  My guess is Tepper gets incentives from SC for practice facility and headquarters, and incentives from NC for a stadium upgrade or new stadium.  That would be my goal if I were Tepper.

Sorry u disagree with me. But YES...i would never pull for them again! My opinion is always dumb here

Edited December 14, 2018 by RaleighHeelsfan

[CarolinaDaydreamin]

Y'all are being ridiculous. The stadium isn't moving to SC. There is a better chance of the Panthers winning the Super Bowl this year than that. If it did I wouldn't really care too much.

I live in Atlanta and when the Braves moved to Cobb county, many long term Atlantans were frustrated, but as soon as they won a playoff game, people forgot to care.

I used to work for the Falcons, many players live in team provided housing for the Falcons in Flowery Branch during camp. During the regular season they just drive up there. 35 Miles in Atlanta is a fairly routine commute. Many of the players live in Gwinnett County, effectively half way between Flowery Branch and Mercedes Benz stadium.

Edited December 14, 2018 by CarolinaDaydreamin

[JorgiPorgi]

2 hours ago, CarolinaDaydreamin said:

Y'all are being ridiculous. The stadium isn't moving to SC. There is a better chance of the Panthers winning the Super Bowl this year than that. If it did I wouldn't really care too much.

I live in Atlanta and when the Braves moved to Cobb county, many long term Atlantans were frustrated, but as soon as they won a playoff game, people forgot to care.

I used to work for the Falcons, many players live in team provided housing for the Falcons in Flowery Branch during camp. During the regular season they just drive up there. 35 Miles in Atlanta is a fairly routine commute. Many of the players live in Gwinnett County, effectively half way between Flowery Branch and Mercedes Benz stadium.

I disagree. Charlotte needs the Panthers uptown.   The panthers don’t have “Charlotte” in the name- which already hurts national recognition of the city. When you watch the intown games they show beautiful shots of uptown which at least help national recognition. Plus- having the stadium uptown brings lots of people into the middle of the city. If the stadium were to move to fort mill, all those fans coming in from SC wouldn’t even cross the state line- causing all the money from hotels, shopping, etc to stay in York County- a county that already heavily benefits just by being close to Charlotte. Would be a horrible move. 

Edited December 14, 2018 by JorgiPorgi

[KJHburg]

Let's see the Washington Redskins play in Maryland, have offices and training facility in Ashburn VA and there is talk of them moving back into the District of Columbia.  Does the office location and training facility other than the immediate area mean that much?   No one is calling the Dallas Cowboys the Frisco Cowboys LOL 

On the Panthers training facility did anyone listen to the first press conference Mr Tepper did when bought the Panthers?  He basically said then he wanted to upgrade the training facility and wanted both Carolinas to participate hinting at a move to SC.   He also said and has repeatedly the best location for the stadium is uptown Charlotte.  

[kermit]

8 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

 Does the office location and training facility other than the immediate area mean that much?   No one is calling the Dallas Cowboys the Frisco Cowboys LOL

I believe the office location determines where the team pays its corporate taxes and the training facility location exerts some influence over where the players pay their income taxes.

Edited December 14, 2018 by kermit

[KJHburg]

Just now, kermit said:

I believe the office location determines where the team pays its corporate taxes and the training facility location exerts some influence over where the players pay their income taxes.

Maybe for corporate taxes but there is a agreement between NC and SC and it depends of residence.  NC has lower corporate taxes and lower personal income tax rates than SC.  

[Popsickle]

2 minutes ago, kermit said:

I believe the office location determines where the team pays its corporate taxes and the training facility location exerts some influence over where the players pay their income taxes.

As a fan, the office location doesn't matter to me at all. I couldn't care less to which state the team or players pays thier taxes to. 

Also, as a fan of the want the stadium in uptown because it is great up the community and is a centralized location and I love going to games in that location. 

As an individual and NC taxpayer I'd like the team/players taxes to go to NC, because it's easy money for the state to help improve itself. 

Also, as an individual I don't like, no I hate, no I loathe the fact that states can "buy" corporate relocations with incentives. I personally believe this should not be allowed and states should attract businesses on their native tax and corporate laws and not incentives. 

[CarolinaDaydreamin]

2 hours ago, JorgiPorgi said:

I disagree. Charlotte needs the Panthers uptown.   The panthers don’t have “Charlotte” in the name- which already hurts national recognition of the city. When you watch the intown games they show beautiful shots of uptown which at least help national recognition. Plus- having the stadium uptown brings lots of people into the middle of the city. If the stadium were to move to fort mill, all those fans coming in from SC wouldn’t even cross the state line- causing all the money from hotels, shopping, etc to stay in York County- a county that already heavily benefits just by being close to Charlotte. Would be a horrible move. 

I mean I want the team to be in Charlotte. I'm saying don't get bent out of shape over something that is clearly not going to happen.

[atlrvr]

I can't imagine there is any net income to tax at the corporate level....almost certainly teams run at net losses.  

[JorgiPorgi]

I could care less where the training facility and offices are- as long as the stadium stays is in Uptown Charlotte. 

[RaleighHeelsfan]

I don't believe the Panthers will leave uptown. But if they did...we are urban enthusiasts....come on...that would be the end for me. Why is that ridiculous? Honest queston!

[SgtCampsalot]

12 hours ago, RaleighHeelsfan said:

I don't believe the Panthers will leave uptown. But if they did...we are urban enthusiasts....come on...that would be the end for me. Why is that ridiculous? Honest queston!

By that logic one should hope  they leave uptown so that land can be redeveloped 

[J-Rob]

I will answer your question.

Would you switch banks because your bank has some mortgage processors in Fort Mill instead of Uptown? Do you avoid Sealed Air products because they spun off a division that is now in SC? I doubt it. Disclaiming your allegiance to the professional football team that represents our entire region comes across as disingenuous.

I want them to stay in Uptown as much as anyone. I live two miles from the stadium and love the vibe the sports venues add to Uptown.

I also highly doubt the stadium leaves NC, I was just making the point that as a fan of the panthers, I am still going to support them as long as they represent the Charlotte region. This is not equivalent to the Hornets going to New Orleans.

As far as the urban enthusiasts comment, MetLife Stadium is about the same distance from Manhattan as Uptown is from SC, so while I absolutely love the stadium being Uptown, and believe it should stay there, I am not going to claim it is vital for preserving the urban environment. In fact, for 95% of the year the stadium drives very little foot traffic.


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[Dale]

Do urban enthusiasts value sports only insofar as the venues are downtown ?

[HopHead]

Tepper has been clear that the stadium, where they actually play the games, is to remain uptown. Whether it's refurbished or new venue, it will be there. The practice facility, which the Panthers are in desperate need of  a new one, will most likely be in SC just across the border. This is the same model that so many other teams are using. Cowboys, Vikings, Falcons, etc. I don't get the uproar at all. 

[DMann]

If Tepper wants to develop an entertainment complex surrounding the stadium, there is ample space available/soon to become available across the street.  

[Nick2]

I personally like them moving the practice facilities to SC as long as they don't move the stadium there. They are the Carolina Panthers after all. Prepresenting both states not just NC and not just Charlotte.

[KJHburg]

Charlotte O story about training facility.  One thing not mentioned any redevelopment of existing practice fields requires city approval as they own the land not Mr Tepper.  https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article222596695.html

Edited December 24, 2018 by KJHburg