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Came home for our family reunion this past weekend. First time in a long time I was able to drive around parts of Norfolk and I must say, Norfolk is looking good. I was surprised and shocked how much

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Norfolk and Virginia Beach's CVBs have joined forces to promote both cities.  I love to see the state's largest and second largest cities that are joined at the hip cooperating with each other for a c

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Ok, let's try this again. -No more coronavirus. That is not a topic that can be discussed rationally so we're done with that. -Steer clear of national/international politics. Do not discuss

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On 2/5/2020 at 6:27 PM, BFG said:

Apparently Richmond's Navy Hill project, which included a new arena and tower for CoStar (commercial real estate company), is in jeopardy. The latter would bring 3,000 jobs. If Richmond doesn't make this happen, I hope Hampton Roads makes a pitch...3,000 jobs in downtown Norfolk would be amazing.

https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/topic/118142-new-richmond-arena/page/37/?tab=comments#comment-1665643

"I would stress that we will always have a very significant commitment to Richmond. The question is we can’t grow in the building we are in now so we need to move for growth and the question is where does that growth occur," Florence said.

"We are focused on Richmond but looking at other areas," he said. "We are looking for a place that can handle 3,000-plus people. We have to get going on this ... either in Richmond, or Henrico or Northern Virginia or D.C. or wherever."

Would have been nice to plot them down right in SPQ..... just saying... Only if it were just that easy....

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I know that it's an economic move, but this is a terrible decision. First of all, the Peninsula has a newspaper. It's called the Daily Press (also owned by Tribune). Just because the DP and the Pilot share owners doesn't mean they need to share one roof. This move completely shuts out the Southside, which now doesn't have much of a voice when it comes to Breaking News or community issues. Again, I know Tribune wanted to save money, but I have a hard time believing they couldn't find enough office space in South Hampton Roads, including the production plant off Greenwich Road.

Having worked in journalism, I hate that bean counting and SEO has killed good story telling.

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1 hour ago, BFG said:

I know that it's an economic move, but this is a terrible decision. First of all, the Peninsula has a newspaper. It's called the Daily Press (also owned by Tribune). Just because the DP and the Pilot share owners doesn't mean they need to share one roof. This move completely shuts out the Southside, which now doesn't have much of a voice when it comes to Breaking News or community issues. Again, I know Tribune wanted to save money, but I have a hard time believing they couldn't find enough office space in South Hampton Roads, including the production plant off Greenwich Road.

Having worked in journalism, I hate that bean counting and SEO has killed good story telling.

I have lived in Norfolk for all but a couple of my 57 years, and those I spent in VB. When I was a kid I had a Ledger-Star evening route and a VP Sunday route. That was back when the paper was wide, and heavy, and actually had some currency in the world. At this point in time newspapers have been relegated to being almost meaningless. Since I don’t have cable TV I get most of my breaking news from twitter.  Most people have no use for newspapers because they are slow to cover stories compared to other media, and the one advantage they hold, the ability to cover stories more in-depth is just no longer appreciated by our “TLDR” culture. Sad to say, but we have devolved to the point that newspapers are no longer valued or needed, therefore having a newspaper publisher actually physically located on the southside holds no particular status in my eyes.

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11 hours ago, NFKjeff said:

I have lived in Norfolk for all but a couple of my 57 years, and those I spent in VB. When I was a kid I had a Ledger-Star evening route and a VP Sunday route. That was back when the paper was wide, and heavy, and actually had some currency in the world. At this point in time newspapers have been relegated to being almost meaningless. Since I don’t have cable TV I get most of my breaking news from twitter.  Most people have no use for newspapers because they are slow to cover stories compared to other media, and the one advantage they hold, the ability to cover stories more in-depth is just no longer appreciated by our “TLDR” culture. Sad to say, but we have devolved to the point that newspapers are no longer valued or needed, therefore having a newspaper publisher actually physically located on the southside holds no particular status in my eyes.

I don't give a damn about the 'prestige' of having a newspaper. But I will tell you that we will see less journalism in the Southside, and that journalism will be of a lower quality. Having your home office be across the water from your beat in this area means you're either having to commute across one of the bridge-tunnels or that you will essentially be home office-ing. This is extremely inconvenient and will push good journalists away from our area. 

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1 hour ago, Arctic_Tern said:

I don't give a damn about the 'prestige' of having a newspaper. But I will tell you that we will see less journalism in the Southside, and that journalism will be of a lower quality. Having your home office be across the water from your beat in this area means you're either having to commute across one of the bridge-tunnels or that you will essentially be home office-ing. This is extremely inconvenient and will push good journalists away from our area. 

Don't most of these reporters work remotely at this point? And if not, why not? They only really need an office for their sales team and printing.

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10 minutes ago, BeagleAccountant said:

Don't most of these reporters work remotely at this point? And if not, why not? They only really need an office for their sales team and printing.

I believe you’re correct. The journalism in this area (as well as most other similarly sized markets) has already taken a huge hit. I do not see this particular move further diminishing either the quality of journalism, or the coverage for those of us on the south side. The journalists will cover the stories which occur whether that be in Hampton, Norfolk, VB, or Williamsburg.

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2 hours ago, EJ_LEWIS said:

This is a bad move by Tribune.  Norfolk is the center of the area and the areas leading Newspaper needs to remain housed in Downtown Norfolk.  

Just goes to show how much the owners in Chicago don't understand Hampton Roads...

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Every now and then I like to check up on where I came from (grew up in Michigan, Kalamazoo to be exact), and Grand Rapids was one of the larger cities in our region. I came across an article about a recently proposed development, and as much as we like to complain about our projects getting chopped down in height, I think if this happened to us the forum would go nuclear! Dear Lord! :lol:

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2018/06/plans_for_42-story_building_downtown_gr.html

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GRAND RAPIDS, MI -- A developer has dramatically changed plans for what would have been the tallest building in Grand Rapids.

Instead of a 42-story tower at 10 Ionia NW, the Hinman Company has now drafted plans for a 13-story building at the site, according to public filings with the city's Historic Preservation Commission. 

Oh, the curse words that would come out of my mouth...:rofl:

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18 hours ago, vdogg said:

Just goes to show how much the owners in Chicago don't understand Hampton Roads...

When regionalism goes wrong...

It's like they're saying "hey!  It's all the same area according to the natives...shouldn't make much of a difference where the news paper is, right?"

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On 2/24/2020 at 10:35 AM, BeagleAccountant said:

Not sure this will do any good but I'm glad they said something.

 

Between this and the arena, I really wish the three mayors would agree to become one city. I know, beating a dead horse, but I can dream, can't I?

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