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Office Building - Japanese Dogwood Ln.

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What an absolutely horrible idea!  Is no one paying attention to the fact that this is in a flood zone and right next to the river?  And after all the effort the city went through on Riverplace to get rid of the old buildings that blocked up the archway of the Main St bridge, now they're going to wedge something new in right by the bridge, taking out park space and interrupting pedestrian flow? Hope this goes nowhere fast.

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I don't mind the mass of it, but the design is terrible. Hope the DRB requires some significant changes. 

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Yikes, I agree with the bad idea, takes up park space (shouldn't that be protected?) and flood plain comments.  This does not transition into the river well at all, blocks views and pedestrian access.  If it blocks views of the architectural arches of the bridge too that is just horrible.  Does seem wedged in there and does not look natural at all and not the right scale for that spot. The design is really really ugly too. This could be a huge eyesore right smack in the middle of everything we worked so hard to make beautiful.   Can they even get insurance in a flood plain?  Hey I have a great idea, lets build a freeway over the falls next...

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Does it really count as "park space" when it's privately owned and simply undeveloped? I guess someone should have pursued the purchase of this land and donated it to the City if they didn't want to see it ever developed.

This side of the river will benefit greatly from being activated by retail. However, I'm not convinced that their overall building form and the ground level design are adequate. I imagine the Design Review Board will have plenty to say about this building's design and visual impact. Hopefully, we see a best possible solution result from the process to come...

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Not a fan of this. Just sort of seems jammed in to such a small area. I used to park in that garage and walk through there everyday to work on Main Street. I really can't imagine a building in there. 

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It isn't park space so we don't need to worry about that.

I hope that they are planning retail along the riverbank side.

Also, don't worry about the floodplain. By law, the entrances have to be 2 feet above flood stage. The entrances to the building will be above the sidewalk much like how Riverplace's are.

 

Now if we can get the removal of the parking garage.... 

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Well everybody should've seen this coming. With all but a few spots in or near the river downtown. Developers are going to get in where they fit in. In regards to this one though. They are definitely going to have to make some changes. Good spot bad design.  

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The article says that the building is only around 9,000 square feet; is that correct?  Or did the article mean 90,000 square feet?

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It said the building FOOTPRINT is 9,000 SF.  So, 9,000 SF per floor.

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Thanks.  The article definitely says, "the footprint of the 9,127-square-foot building".  I think that you're right in that the article meant to say, "the 9,127 square foot footprint of the building...".

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It looks like a wall with little subterranean holes carved out of the bottom for bums to sleep and urinate in, er I mean retail.  I would like to see this spot combined with the garage as part of a larger scale project to connect people and businesses on Main down to the falls.  We need to do more to make a reason to go over "the pedestrian bridge to nowhere" as I have frequently heard it called. This is terrible.  This could be another artists row area if done well.  What could be a cool idea would be instead of artists, make it a chefs row turning the area into an outdoor food court serving those enjoying downtown and the park/falls.  Smaller shops outfitted similar to how food trucks are but permanent, allowing for a rotating array of aspiring chef's entrepreneurs to get their start.  This is an important spot given its location (RIGHT ON TOP OF THE FALLS). Anything but a big wall.  

 

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I've been thinking about this, and I'm a little curious about the pedestrian-ization of Japanese Dogwood Lane. To even propose such a thing, there must have been some prior City input, and we can assume that the City is supportive of this idea (and will fund the improvements).

Ultimately, it's a rarely used road to nowhere, with Larkin's using it for valet service (I wonder how they feel?). I assume they'll need to maintain a drivable surface for fire truck access, but hopefully it gets a worthy treatment and not just some bollards. Laurens Street is very well done, and will hopefully serve as the model. I wish we had some solid information about how the Greenville News site will address this face of their block.

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3 hours ago, GvilleSC said:

I've been thinking about this, and I'm a little curious about the pedestrian-ization of Japanese Dogwood Lane. To even propose such a thing, there must have been some prior City input, and we can assume that the City is supportive of this idea (and will fund the improvements).

Ultimately, it's a rarely used road to nowhere, with Larkin's using it for valet service (I wonder how they feel?). I assume they'll need to maintain a drivable surface for fire truck access, but hopefully it gets a worthy treatment and not just some bollards. Laurens Street is very well done, and will hopefully serve as the model. I wish we had some solid information about how the Greenville News site will address this face of their block.

The City wanted Camperdown to be pedestrian oriented, but the bedrock couldn't let it happen.

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Staff asked for a deferral which CAP agreed to. It was presented and comments from the public and the DRB were made.  Changes will be made but I don't know that it will ever pass muster with much of the public. 

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The actual revised plans are posted now with City review comments. I'm not sure I like it.

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Can you paste the link. When I go online all I see is the old version.  No comments and the same design as last month. 

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Thanks !

It is a step in the right direction but the wall of glass (North elevation)is still too monolithic to me.  

 

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