Stonewall Street Projects in 2nd Ward - Northwood Ravin, Proffitt Dixon, Walton Plaza

[XRZ.ME]

Seems Gyu kabu the japanese bbq restaurant have been soft opened according to their website. Can't wait to visit this place.


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[Miesian Corners]

Charlotte: city of chain workout joints and hair salons.

[KJHburg]

11 minutes ago, Miesian Corners said:

Charlotte: city of chain workout joints and hair salons.

The rent is too HIGH for these retail spaces.  Lower the rent and fill some of the vacant spaces with local tenants.  at $35/40 a sq ft only chains or high end restaurants can afford it.  Look at downtown Belmont Mt Holly, Concord, Mooresville, Waxhaw etc all have lots of small local based businesses because the rents are less.  

[CTiger]

13 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

The rent is too HIGH for these retail spaces.  Lower the rent and fill some of the vacant spaces with local tenants.  at $35/40 a sq ft only chains or high end restaurants can afford it.  Look at downtown Belmont Mt Holly, Concord, Mooresville, Waxhaw etc all have lots of small local based businesses because the rents are less.  

KJ, I know you travel a lot so you probably have a good feel for this.  Do you think this is a Charlotte-specific problem or do our peer cities have a similar mix of national and local tenants in their CBDs?  How do other cities address the issue?

To be fair, I am far less concerned with having the bigger national chains occupy spots in Uptown than I am with them swallowing up every retail spot in Southend.  

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CTiger said:

KJ, I know you travel a lot so you probably have a good feel for this.  Do you think this is a Charlotte-specific problem or do our peer cities have a similar mix of national and local tenants in their CBDs?  How do other cities address the issue?

To be fair, I am far less concerned with having the bigger national chains occupy spots in Uptown than I am with them swallowing up every retail spot in Southend.  

All cities have this problem. It can be augmented by only one circumstance, the presence of old buildings with old retail spaces. That said, the current trend is to spruce up those spaces to the point of losing out on affordability as well. 

[Bruco72]

4 hours ago, Miesian Corners said:

Charlotte: city of chain workout joints and hair salons.

I will say that my GF is quite excited about the salons and nail places. When we first moved here 5 years ago she was shocked as to how few of these places were up town. Like it or not, salons make uptown more livable and are attractive to professional young women, which are an extremely important demo to real estate developers 

[CLT2014]

Salon Lofts also helps independent hair stylists have a location in Uptown without having to absorb all of the fixed costs of a salon themselves such as online bookings, utilities, janitorial cleaning, maintenance, et... The stylist can just focus on being a small business and pursuing their passion with clients, rather than operating a building too. So it is a "chain" full of small business owners who are independent. 

Edited October 18, 2019 by CLT2014

[KJHburg]

10 hours ago, CTiger said:

KJ, I know you travel a lot so you probably have a good feel for this.  Do you think this is a Charlotte-specific problem or do our peer cities have a similar mix of national and local tenants in their CBDs?  How do other cities address the issue?

To be fair, I am far less concerned with having the bigger national chains occupy spots in Uptown than I am with them swallowing up every retail spot in Southend.  

as @ricky_davis_fan_21 said below is true.  a stock of older buildings is more ideal as it is cheaper rent.  That being said many uptown landlords and some in Southend hold out for credit worthy tenants who can afford the space.  The result is high vacancy of retail space.  Some spaces have been empty for years all waiting for this perfect tenant.  It really is a shame.   It has become a big problem in many cities but property owners here in Charlotte seem to rather get $0 in rent than something it seems.  Just a basic upfit with some lighting and a divider wall or two could easily be leased up but landlords don't seem willing to take a chance on anyone.  

[videtur quam contuor]

It is true in Manhattan, as well. Or maybe, particularly so.

[CLT2014]

Stonewall sidewalk is now closed for the convention center project on the Westin side. Gonna really cut off easy access to Whole Foods and these shops.

[j-man]

16 hours ago, CLT2014 said:

Stonewall sidewalk is now closed for the convention center project on the Westin side. Gonna really cut off easy access to Whole Foods and these shops.

They need to redo that entire ground floor on the Westin. It looks beyond dated and useless. 

 

[Matthew.Brendan]

Yeah that whole corner is pretty atrocious as is.

[jednc]

On 9/7/2019 at 2:25 PM, KJHburg said:

Parked at the Savoy apartments on E Stonewall and walked up to Tryon lots of new retail coming to the street level. Maybe not destination retail but it will help liven the street.

Starbucks, 5/3 Bank, Japanese restaurant, fitness studios, nail places, spas etc.  Here are my photos today.   Whole Foods is driving a lot of walkers now.   Saw lots of urban search and rescue people from California maybe at the convention at the Westin from Sacramento and San Diego.  Many were eating at Whole Foods inside and out.   There are going to be some good looking people eating their Tiffs cookies and drinking their lattes on these blocks. LOL

I know I have a weird sense of humor, but I always look forward to when you post a picture talking about street activity because inevitably, your pictures don't capture any people. 

[Guest]

Corner Unit going to be a Walgreens

Edited October 28, 2019 by Guest

[Guest]

EDIT: Nevermind, guess Walgreens was just one of the possibilities. 

[KJHburg]

a high visible spot like that on a busy entrance to uptown.  would be great for the urban format QuikTrip store like the one in Midtown Atlanta.  No gas of course but everything else the same inside sandwiches, coffees and teas, etc and other convenience items.   I have been to this one and it is bottom floor of apartment tower. 

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/midtown/quiktrip-opens-1st-non-fuel-store-in-midtown-atlanta/85-252553469

Edited October 28, 2019 by KJHburg

[archiebarrier49]

On 10/18/2019 at 11:10 AM, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

All cities have this problem. It can be augmented by only one circumstance, the presence of old buildings with old retail spaces. That said, the current trend is to spruce up those spaces to the point of losing out on affordability as well. 

H&M downtown Seattle 

[KJHburg]

^^^ Nice but too small a space for H&M store. 

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

If the space was larger, I would love to see one of those Urban Targets (still would like one of those anywhere Uptown).   But being located at the bottom of a hotel, my initial thought was a restaurant.  That particular retail spot is pretty big too.  Out of the entire Stonewall stretch of newness, only one restaurant so far, Gyu.

*Re: Gas-less QT: Something like this would work really well at that location, providing a 24/7 food/convenience store...With all the residential/hotels/Convention center, would be pretty busy.

Edited October 28, 2019 by CharlotteWkndBuzz

[JRNYP2C]

Outside of the Knights baseball season, how does the 7/11 do?  I think that could be a somewhat close comparison to the QT concept.

[QClifer]

the homeless keep it in business,  In all seriousness I think it does VERY well.  

[Mgelbach]

Construction workers as well as office workers

[midtownclt]

...as well as residents of third ward - I go in the 7/11 quite often - it is convenient and I do not need my car!

[KJHburg]

the sidewalks are open in front of Westin even with the new walkway construction over Stonewall and the Starbucks is attracting people down the street too.  

Whole Foods at lunch time is always packed prepared foods, people parking and walking in and buying lots of groceries.  

 

[KJHburg]

the most changed street in Charlotte in the last 3 years.  Stonewall.  Today.