Stonewall Street Projects in 2nd Ward - Northwood Ravin, Proffitt Dixon, Walton Plaza

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The online discussions of capping or removing some or all of 277 should refer to this area where a grand cloverleaf interchange became all of this, and a massive injection of tax money to the city and county.

[Vitamin_N]

21 hours ago, tarhoosier said:

The online discussions of capping or removing some or all of 277 should refer to this area where a grand cloverleaf interchange became all of this, and a massive injection of tax money to the city and county.

Has anybody ever quantified that whole operation? e.g. it cost $X to make the changes, and the land sold for $Y and produces $Z/yr in property taxes?

[KJHburg]

still the most changed street in Charlotte in the last few years.  Today.  Now if we can get the right side of the street (Brookyln  2nd Ward ) to get going.  

Last photo the proclaimed great wall of Charlotte.  

[Spartan]

I have to say that the ground level streetscape on that whole corridor is shaping up quite nicely (well, on the one side of the street). Once they get the cycle track in there, it will be a really cool route between BofA Stadium and the XCLT.

 

On 7/27/2019 at 9:25 PM, SgtCampsalot said:

There is something that lowers the number of gallons your pool can have the higher up you go in elevation. I've only heard that from a developer, though; no citation.

 

 

Gravity?

 

On 10/18/2019 at 9:00 AM, Miesian Corners said:

Charlotte: city of chain workout joints and hair salons.

 

Hey, at least it's not a freaking dry-cleaner or a steak joint.

 

 

On 12/15/2019 at 10:18 AM, tarhoosier said:

The online discussions of capping or removing some or all of 277 should refer to this area where a grand cloverleaf interchange became all of this, and a massive injection of tax money to the city and county.

 

It's probably large, but won't be realized until next year, or maybe the year after, depending on when construction finishes. A bridge cap TIF district would have made a lot of sense in that area in hindsight. That said, the city is so sprawled out, they need the higher tax revenues in center city to offset the cost of providing services to suburbia.

 

Also, I'm not aware of any serious discussion about a cap. It might make it in the next Center City Vision Plan, but it's taken 10+ years for rail trail bridge to materialize, and that's what, $5m? A cap is going to be in the $50-100m range depending on the size of it.

 

 

 

 

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I have to say that the ground level streetscape on that whole corridor is shaping up quite nicely (well, on the one side of the street). Once they get the cycle track in there, it will be a really cool route between BofA Stadium and the XCLT.
 
 
It's probably large, but won't be realized until next year, or maybe the year after, depending on when construction finishes. A bridge cap TIF district would have made a lot of sense in that area in hindsight. That said, the city is so sprawled out, they need the higher tax revenues in center city to offset the cost of providing services to suburbia.
 
Also, I'm not aware of any serious discussion about a cap. It might make it in the next Center City Vision Plan, but it's taken 10+ years for rail trail bridge to materialize, and that's what, $5m? A cap is going to be in the $50-100m range depending on the size of it.
 
 
 
 

$11.5M for rail trail bridge


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[Spartan]

Lol - I forgot the "11." - but my point still stands.

[Bruco72]

Some work on the D9 Taproom next to Savoy 

[KJHburg]

who is the other tenant or do they have one for the corner spot under the Home2Suites and any word on the other retail tenants at 550 Stonewall?  photos from earlier today.

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

There is also a very large corner retail spot at Savoy Apartments that’s still available. Hustle House and Tiffs Cookies are open at 550 now and the other spot looks like the lobby/leasing. They do have more retail spots under the mid rise section but that’s where their fitness center is...idk if that is temporary or not but odd that they put their fitness center on some prime street frontage. Surprised we haven’t seen any action on the hotel retail corner spot either...wonder if they’re waiting to see the future of their stalled neighbor.

[KJHburg]

37 minutes ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

There is also a very large corner retail spot at Savoy Apartments that’s still available. Hustle House and Tiffs Cookies are open at 550 now and the other spot looks like the lobby/leasing. They do have more retail spots under the mid rise section but that’s where their fitness center is...idk if that is temporary or not but odd that they put their fitness center on some prime street frontage. Surprised we haven’t seen any action on the hotel retail corner spot either...wonder if they’re waiting to see the future of their stalled neighbor.

I forgot about Tiff Cookies being there love me some warm chocolate chip cookies! 

[NOLA2CLT]

12 hours ago, KJHburg said:

I forgot about Tiff Cookies being there love me some warm chocolate chip cookies! 

Had dinner with Andy Roddick and Brooklyn Decker a few weeks ago at Optimist Hall - and by had dinner I mean, they sat at the table next to us, we shared a fire column and Andy brought us a high chair for our son and their kids.  Were basically friends now.  

But they are investors in Tiffs Treats and I believe Brooklyn grew up in Matthews area.

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

Does anyone know what they are doing in the back plaza of NHOF?  They removed all the trees and tearing up the concrete.  Are they putting something in there?  Would be great for that corner. 

[j-man]

It’s so funny how some projects you think will be bad turn out good and the ones you think will be good turned out not so good. I feel like that about Savoy and Uptown 550. I really thought Savoy was going to be bland and 550 would be game changing, but since they’re done I feel the opposite. Though I wish Savoy was two stories taller. 

[turbocraig]

I wish 550 had turned out more like the rendering.  With the front facade extension up top and larger overhang on the right side roof.  It’s not bad as is, but those two small details really turn it.  Doesn’t seem like those would have been too costly to warrant VE’ing them, especially considering the layered/laminated effect they gave that really made it cool.

[j-man]

52 minutes ago, turbocraig said:

I wish 550 had turned out more like the rendering.  With the front facade extension up top and larger overhang on the right side roof.  It’s not bad as is, but those two small details really turn it.  Doesn’t seem like those would have been too costly to warrant VE’ing them, especially considering the layered/laminated effect they gave that really made it cool.

I agree so much! I think it turned out ok but not as good as the rendering. Idk I think its the material used for the exterior. They look really cheap in real life and not as vibrant as in the renderings. Especially from behind coming from SouthEnd. And usually I love brick but the dark grey bricks look fake. But still a great addition to this side of uptown. 

Edited February 13, 2020 by j-man

[HighRiseHillbilly]

At least they got rid of that Super 8 Motel looking sign they originally had.

[QCxpat]

Spoke with the Safety Director at The Ellis yesterday @ 1:00 p.m.  His company  is also involved with the development of the stalled, pre-fab hotel pictured below at E. Stonewall St. and S. Caldwell St. 

He told me that the pre-fab units had failed City inspection at the manufacturer's site in Houston, and that the developer is not sure yet if it is going to tear it down or not.

Edited February 14, 2020 by QCxpat

[j-man]

2 hours ago, QCxpat said:

Spoke with the Safety Director at The Ellis yesterday @ 1:00 p.m.  His company  is also involved with the development of the stalled, pre-fab hotel pictured below at E. Stonewall St. and S. Caldwell St. 

He told me that the pre-fab units had failed City inspection at the manufacturer's site in Houston, and that the developer is not sure yet if it is going to tear it down or not.

So does this mean they will start over, or just not have a second hotel. 

[Madison Parkitect]

On 2/13/2020 at 8:27 AM, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

Does anyone know what they are doing in the back plaza of NHOF?  They removed all the trees and tearing up the concrete.  Are they putting something in there?  Would be great for that corner. 

Saw this rendering banner there today. Looks like a basic plaza redo. 

[j-man]

3 hours ago, Madison Parkitect said:

Saw this rendering banner there today. Looks like a basic plaza redo. 

Surprised this wasn’t announced. It would be great if they could add a retail space or two. 

[tozmervo]

That side has always felt like "back of the building," when it never should have. Now that Stonewall is built out, I think they recognized that problem and are now making it a proper entrance. 

[CLT2014]

^ Grab a bag a popcorn and watch people scratch their Audi on the temp diving wall with the narrow lanes they've created. It is good fun. 

[Owenorange]

Or get stuck in 10 min of traffic waiting for delivery trucks to make a 72 point turn to back into Westin deck with narrower lanes

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

Stonewall continues to be crane city...here’s the new guy on the block at the convention center:

Edited February 25, 2020 by CharlotteWkndBuzz
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[carolinaboy]

14 hours ago, CharlotteWkndBuzz said:

Stonewall continues to be crane city...here’s the new guy on the block at the convention center:

Remind me whats happening at or to the Convention Center. There's so much going on all over town I can't remember what's happening here.