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Grand Bohemian Hotel

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On 4/17/2017 at 8:18 AM, gvegascple said:

Looks really really great.  Regarding height, if well done, I am good with making exceptions here and there.  I would think that those staying at the hotel (and those marketing the rooms) would want mountain views if possible as well as views of the falls.  Might not be even possible with all of the development around it though.

Don't think you will be getting mountain views from a 3 story building in downtown, LOL, especially since it is already below Main St. level.

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Unfortunate about the Grand Bohemian.  Not trying to beat a dead horse, but time-tested architecture is wise, in my view, NOT "modern" styles that may be horribly outdated in 10 years.  We don't need a 2017 version of the Daniel Building: anything that is "cool" for its time but that doesn't age well.

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This DRB needs to disbanded. They approve every generic box without question ( Aloft, former peacock site, AC Hotel,... Aloft), then when anything with a little imagination to actually be different gets proposed they deny it. Not saying I wouldn't mind seeing a few different proposals just to look at different visions, but saying we need more modern stuff is ridiculous. 

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It was APPROVED but with some changes. The basic look will not be that different when all is said and done. It is still a design in rogress at this point.  

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"DRB member Carmella M. Cioffi said the overall design needs to be more urban, presenting more of a clean contemporary line while likely being able to use the same materials in the plan. She cited the modern lines of the Liberty Bridge that would be in stark contrast to the current design of the hotel. She further recommended moving away from the idea of a park-based architectural design. “I think the building can rise organically from the park and still feel like today’s architecture,” she said."

Why does she think everything need to be like "today's architecture"? If anything, the DRB should be protecting downtown from "today's architecture" and not demanding changes to proven architectural styles. If she liked and approved the "today's architecture" of the Link Apartments I shudder to think about the hand she has in the design of future projects. I also wonder how Christian Sottile accepted this criticism? Anyone compare his CV to Ms. Cioffi's CV? 

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I think you are expecting a do-over when it sounds more like tweaking the design to me.  I get that the hotel will be on the park, but the Bowater building is just across from it too. I think the Board is just trying to make that contrast not be so stark. 

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I hope you're right but I read it differently. To me it sounds like they are approving the project, ie "it's ok the have the hotel" , but the architecture needs to be modern ( translation= boring boxy everything else going in DT).

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Just sad about DRB.    If city hall teaches us anything, it is that trying to unify onto a "current" architectural style ends poorly long term.   

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This project has to be done perfectly. Falls Park is beautiful but this piece of land right now is pretty boring. This will complete the park. I also really hope to see a walking path on that side of the river as shown in the renderings.

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2 hours ago, SRL311U said:

Just sad about DRB.    If city hall teaches us anything, it is that trying to unify onto a "current" architectural style ends poorly long term.   

I don't see any difference between this submission and the last one. Did I miss something? :dontknow: 

Anybody know where Wyche is going to move?

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13 hours ago, gman430 said:

I don't see any difference between this submission and the last one. Did I miss something? :dontknow: 

Anybody know where Wyche is going to move?

It's the change in the roofline. I don't know if I'm really feeling the flat roofs. Felt like they are forcing things to get this thing through. Just my opinion. 

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20 hours ago, Jet-set said:

Wyche could move into Wynit's old spot :tw_glasses:

Leatherwood is already in that building. Thats a nonstarter. 

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Construction to begin no later than April 1 according to GNews. Completion of the entire project not expected until 2020. 

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https://upstatebusinessjournal.com/front-row-february-design-review-board-urban-panel/

The City of Greenville’s application for a certificate of appropriateness was approved for the design of the streetscape in the public space between 44 and 55 E. Camperdown Way that will transition from Falls Park to the planned Grand Bohemian Hotel.

https://www.clevelandconstruction.com/portfolio/grand-bohemian-hotel/

grand-bohemian-greenville-rendering-web.

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