Embassy Suites (30 stories, 500 rooms), 1 Hotel (18 stories, 221 rooms)

[chris holman]

I believe they do regret it they were even talking about building another hotel

Edited May 2, 2017 by chris holman

[Skyscrapergeek]

Should've gone with this version. 

[titanhog]

Uh oh.  Anyone have access to read what the new floor count / height is for this project?  Normally...this would be the "downsizing" moment...but this appears to maybe be showing "additional floors"...meaning more height! 

http://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/20860971/sobro-hotel-project-altered-to-include-additional-floors

[NashvilleObserver]

http://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/20860971/sobro-hotel-project-altered-to-include-additional-floors

The floor counts have been altered. First reported as 16 and 25-story towers, the dual-brand hotel will now have a 18 and a 30-story tower!

5 minutes ago, titanhog said:

Uh oh.  Anyone have access to read what the new floor count / height is for this project?  Normally...this would be the "downsizing" moment...but this appears to maybe be showing "additional floors"...meaning more height! 

http://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/20860971/sobro-hotel-project-altered-to-include-additional-floors

Dang you beat me to it. Here's the full post:

The development team about to break ground on a two-hotel project in SoBro has altered the floor count of both buildings and has released new images.

White/Peterman Properties Inc. of Merrillville, Indiana, and Atlanta-based Five Star Realty Partners will have the towers for the two Hilton hotels — an Embassy Suites and a Curio — constructed on a 1.3-acre site located at the northeast corner of the intersection of Demonbreun Street and Eighth Avenue South.

Previously, the team said its plans included a 25-story tower for the Embassy Suites (432 guestrooms) and a 16-story building to accommodate the Curio (260 rooms). The two hotels would have offered a combined 692 rooms.

According to the website of LK Architects, the Wichita, Kansas-based firm handling design for the project, the towers are now being eyed for 30 and 18 floors, respectively. The collective guestroom count, the website notes, is 721.

Officials with the development team could not be reached for comment. The rubble from a recently razed building that has sat on the site is being cleared and a groundbreaking is expected by summer. On an adjacent site, a 19-story building under construction and to accommodate a Cambria hotel has been topped. 

According to plans previously submitted to the Metro Planning Department Downtown Code Design Review Committee, the two Hilton hotel towers will rise from a pedestal building of sorts. (Click on the above image to see additional renderings.)

The Embassy Suites tower will include a first-floor restaurant (open also to the public) and a fourth-floor kitchen, bar and dining area for guests. In addition, that building also will include a rooftop swimming pool, a bar, a deck and a fitness center.

The Curio tower will feature a first-floor restaurant and bar for both guests and the public, a fitness center, meeting spaces on the fourth floor and a rooftop with a bar and an event deck.

It is unclear if the development team will need to return to the design review committee to address the seemingly added extra height of the two buildings.

Edited May 10, 2017 by NashvilleObserver

[dmillsphoto]

Collective guestroom count is 721 up from 692 rooms, and 18/30 floors up from 16/25.

[urbanplanet17]

1 hour ago, dmillsphoto said:

Collective guestroom count is 721 up from 692 rooms, and 18/30 floors up from 16/25.

Does this now make this Embassy hotel the largest in the country (based on room count)?

[TNinVB]

I don't think this is new information. This is annotated on the previous page and has the newest renderings. 

[BnaBreaker]

2 hours ago, urbanplanet17 said:

Does this now make this Embassy hotel the largest in the country (based on room count)?

According to wikipedia, the current largest Embassy Suites in the world is in Niagara Falls, Ontario with 512 rooms... so, if that's accurate, this would be the largest by far in the world.

[urbanplanet17]

TNinVB is correct.

So the Embassy room count still sits at 506 (for now).

[Hey_Hey]

7 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

According to wikipedia, the current largest Embassy Suites in the world is in Niagara Falls, Ontario with 512 rooms... so, if that's accurate, this would be the largest by far in the world.

The 721 is both the Curio (215 rooms) and the Embassy (506 rooms) together, so it would not be the largest Embassy in the world. They should just add 7 rooms to get that designation.

[urbanplanet17]

39 minutes ago, Hey_Hey said:

The 721 is both the Curio (215 rooms) and the Embassy (506 rooms) together, so it would not be the largest Embassy in the world. They should just add 7 rooms to get that designation.

Agreed.

It would be great for business if the owners (and Nashville in general) could make that claim. I mean, we're talking maybe a couple million more dollars (in addition to what's already a $300+ million project) and possibly an additional floor at most to achieve this?

Edited May 11, 2017 by urbanplanet17

[PillowTalk4]

On 5/2/2017 at 6:31 PM, Skyscrapergeek said:

Should've gone with this version. 

This was one of their concepts for Fort Worth...   

This is what what was built...  

The lower portions are similar to what was built in Nashville.  I would have preferred either of these over what was built in Nashville.

But I strongly agree that the Omni is probably regretting that they did such a bland design.  Take away the the accent lighting they do at night and it just gets lost.  The JW Marriott is really going to make it look shameful.  But I also blame those involved in the overall MCC project for not pushing Omni for something more.  I honestly think Omni thought just their name would be enough for the Nashville market.  I don't think they saw the magnitude of hotel development coming.  They probably anticipated primarily what was initially built after the MCC and Omni was completed.  Hyatt Place, Hilton Suites, etc.  I don't think they saw JW Marriott, Westin and Embassy suite knocking on their doors so soon.  All within a block or two of the MCC. 

[fieldmarshaldj]

13 minutes ago, PillowTalk4 said:

This was one of their concepts for Fort Worth...   

This is what what was built...  

The lower portions are similar to what was built in Nashville.  I would have preferred either of these over what was built in Nashville.

But I strongly agree that the Omni is probably regretting that they did such a bland design.  Take away the the accent lighting they do at night and it just gets lost.  The JW Marriott is really going to make it look shameful.  But I also blame those involved in the overall MCC project for not pushing Omni for something more.  I honestly think Omni thought just their name would be enough for the Nashville market.  I don't think they saw the magnitude of hotel development coming.  They probably anticipated primarily what was initially built after the MCC and Omni was completed.  Hyatt Place, Hilton Suites, etc.  I don't think they saw JW Marriott, Westin and Embassy suite knocking on their doors so soon.  All within a block or two of the MCC. 

Of course, nothing stopping them from demolishing it and rebuilding something bigger and better on that locale. And nobody will miss it.

[urbanplanet17]

1 hour ago, fieldmarshaldj said:

Of course, nothing stopping them from demolishing it and rebuilding something bigger and better on that locale. And nobody will miss it.

12-18 months of lost business would be a huge impediment.

They'd be better off simply building an annex on the opposite corner of 5th and KVB.

Edited May 12, 2017 by urbanplanet17

[bigeasy]

How about they demolish The Westin and build the replacement there.   Win/Win in my eyes.

[markhollin]

Curio site is now scraped clean.

Looking NE from intersection of Demonbruen and 8th Ave. South, with Cambria Suites in the background:

 

Looking NW from Demonbruen just west of 7th Ave. South:

[TNinVB]

So it looks like some sort of cladding is going up on the hotel in the background. I was worried that black wall was going to be exposed. Even though it will be hidden from view eventually I'm glad it is being covered. 

[CenterHill]

32 minutes ago, TNinVB said:

So it looks like some sort of cladding is going up on the hotel in the background. I was worried that black wall was going to be exposed. Even though it will be hidden from view eventually I'm glad it is being covered. 

The cladding is black also, but is a clean look compared to the painted block.     

[titanhog]

Current prep work (for those interested).

 

[LA_TN]

[MLBrumby]

Looks like they don't want to wait to grab a piece of the action. 

[titanhog]

This is behind the paywall...so I'm not sure what all it says, but I'm intrigued by the quote "700-rooms and counting" and wondering if that means they may possibly even make this larger?

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2017/06/08/dallas-developer-dives-into-700-room-and-counting.html

Edited June 9, 2017 by titanhog

[claya91]

1 hour ago, titanhog said:

This is behind the paywall...so I'm not sure what all it says, but I'm intrigued by the quote "700-rooms and counting" and wondering if that means they may possibly even make this larger?

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2017/06/08/dallas-developer-dives-into-700-room-and-counting.html

Considering those developers paid a record price for land in Nashville, the incentive to increase the project scope is certainly there.

[titanhog]

1 hour ago, claya91 said:

Considering those developers paid a record price for land in Nashville, the incentive to increase the project scope is certainly there.

It's going to be the world's first 1000' Embassy Suites. 

[urbanplanet17]

8 hours ago, titanhog said:

This is behind the paywall...so I'm not sure what all it says, but I'm intrigued by the quote "700-rooms and counting" and wondering if that means they may possibly even make this larger?

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2017/06/08/dallas-developer-dives-into-700-room-and-counting.html

Last I heard, the official combined room count would be 721.

That said, I'm hoping the developers bite the bullet in the end and add the few more rooms, just to claim they have the largest Embassy Suites in the world.