Lakeshore Projects

[grandrollerz]

On 2/4/2022 at 9:17 AM, joeDowntown said:

How many times do you walk through a city with a giant chess board and actually see someone using it (or a metal ping pong table, like downtown GR)? 

Joe

 

The ping pong table at Riverside is always busy.  Wife and I prefer to go to the Richmond park table as its less busy.  where is there one downtown? I wanna go!

[joeDowntown]

North Monroe has one (or maybe two) right next to the skatepark.  
 

Joe

[GRDadof3]

It does seem like there's a lot of parking in the site plan, but then again, not very many people live within walking distance. 

[cstonesparty]

1 hour ago, GRDadof3 said:

It does seem like there's a lot of parking in the site plan, but then again, not very many people live within walking distance. 

Condos going up kitty-corner from this property

[GRDadof3]

3 minutes ago, cstonesparty said:

Condos going up kitty-corner from this property

Not surprising, but I'm saying the thousands of people it takes to support a farmers market, restaurant and retail don't live within walking distance. 

[cstonesparty]

3 hours ago, cstonesparty said:

Condos going up kitty-corner from this property

On further review, mostly apartments in the Peerless Flats development:

124 rental apartments, ranging from studio apartments to three-bedroom units; nine owner-occupied townhome/condominiums along Second Street

[Cookin_peacocks]

4 hours ago, cstonesparty said:

On further review, mostly apartments in the Peerless Flats development:

124 rental apartments, ranging from studio apartments to three-bedroom units; nine owner-occupied townhome/condominiums along Second Street

Is there a rendering for this? Did I miss it?

[cstonesparty]

37 minutes ago, Cookin_peacocks said:

Is there a rendering for this? Did I miss it?

It was in this thread a little over a year ago (roughly)…. Here’s a site: https://www.avbinc.com/commercial-construction/projects/peerless-flats/

[Cookin_peacocks]

2 hours ago, cstonesparty said:

It was in this thread a little over a year ago (roughly)…. Here’s a site: https://www.avbinc.com/commercial-construction/projects/peerless-flats/

So an apartment complex.... Downtown?

[GRDadof3]

12 hours ago, Cookin_peacocks said:

So an apartment complex.... Downtown?

This is it, on Jackson between 1st and 2nd. Looks like they vacated Elliot.  It apparently broke ground in March 2021. 

[cstonesparty]

In Holland news: https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2022/02/waterfront-hotel-cruise-ship-dock-proposed-near-downtown-holland.html

[GRDadof3]

1 hour ago, cstonesparty said:

In Holland news: https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2022/02/waterfront-hotel-cruise-ship-dock-proposed-near-downtown-holland.html

Whoa, that's cool. 

[HomePortSupplyCo]

Another rendering of the Holland waterfront proposal.

https://mibiz.com/sections/real-estate-development/holland-reviewing-single-proposal-to-redevelop-downtown-waterfront-property

[GR8scott]

Cool start, I thought there were even more ambitious ideas that would replace the old power plant and possibly create "inland" waterway/canals like in the real Holland. Either way it sounds like the city is serious about incorporating the long neglected waterfront into the downtown and just hope it gets done right

[ZAP!]

On 2/28/2022 at 7:22 PM, GR8scott said:

Cool start, I thought there were even more ambitious ideas that would replace the old power plant and possibly create "inland" waterway/canals like in the real Holland.

Based on absolutely no research, here's a map I drew of what canals could look like.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=16MFOd82tBtssIaNXkNvRjv8z3jo7Vq0i

I don't know why I just spent 20 minutes on this.

[GRDadof3]

On 2/28/2022 at 12:18 PM, GreatLakesPrintShop said:

Another rendering of the Holland waterfront proposal.

https://mibiz.com/sections/real-estate-development/holland-reviewing-single-proposal-to-redevelop-downtown-waterfront-property

I like this project but those buildings are so "pedestrian" and I don't mean that in a good way. Looks like apartments on Alpine Avenue. 

 

This is really fascinating. The coal plant in Port Sheldon Twp is going to be decommissioned early. I think that's pretty much all of the coal plants in West Michigan will be gone soon. That's great for our air quality.

Wonder what will come of redeveloping this site. A lot of interesting discussions about lost tax revenue and how to replace it:

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2022/03/plans-to-decommission-coal-plant-on-2000-acres-along-lake-michigan-presents-once-in-a-generation-redevelopment-opportunity.html

[HomePortSupplyCo]

23 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

I like this project but those buildings are so "pedestrian" and I don't mean that in a good way. Looks like apartments on Alpine Avenue. 

I agree that these look out of place.  I would go with more of a wharf warehouse look with a slight nod to Dutch architecture.  Similar to the market buildings in Boston.

[joeDowntown]

I agree that wharf type structures would look really nice (if done well). It's a bit of a let down as I think Holland developers have done a good job of putting some very nice developments downtown. This looks like suburban apartment building on the waterfront.

[cstonesparty]

1 hour ago, joeDowntown said:

I agree that wharf type structures would look really nice (if done well). It's a bit of a let down as I think Holland developers have done a good job of putting some very nice developments downtown. This looks like suburban apartment building on the waterfront.

GDK are the same folks who have done nice work over the last few years on a bunch of developments in downtown Holland.  I'd be surprised if they were satisfied to go pedestrian on the waterfront after establishing their reputation for quality in Holland.  This feels like maybe placeholder rendering to me...

[joeDowntown]

19 minutes ago, cstonesparty said:

GDK are the same folks who have done nice work over the last few years on a bunch of developments in downtown Holland.  I'd be surprised if they were satisfied to go pedestrian on the waterfront after establishing their reputation for quality in Holland.  This feels like maybe placeholder rendering to me...

Good to know! And maybe you are right. They may have done a rendering to show a bit more than massing of buildings, but still a placeholder. That makes me optimistic. I really like what's been done in Holland in the last 10-12 years.

Joe

[GRDadof3]

23 hours ago, GreatLakesPrintShop said:

I agree that these look out of place.  I would go with more of a wharf warehouse look with a slight nod to Dutch architecture.  Similar to the market buildings in Boston.

Way better. 

[GR8scott]

On 3/12/2022 at 3:42 PM, ZAP! said:

Based on absolutely no research, here's a map I drew of what canals could look like.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=16MFOd82tBtssIaNXkNvRjv8z3jo7Vq0i

I don't know why I just spent 20 minutes on this.

Had a similar thought as well. Pretty sure that rail line still gets used but if not that would be the least hindering; 

Another more elaborate but not too invasive idea would be reroute part of the 1way 7th street throughfare to 6th and put a canal down 7th with building along side for a real Amsterdam feel. Something like this; 

[HomePortSupplyCo]

Here’s a couple crude progress pics of Holland projects.  At River & 7th and River & 9th.

[GRDadof3]

Big news out of Holland. LG Chem is adding 1.5 Million square feet to its battery plant, adding another 1200 jobs (they have about 1300 employees now)

 

Here's what the plant looks like now (that you can see from I-196)

 

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/02/21/lg-chem-expand-battery-cell-manufacturing-us-china/

[wingbert]

Where are all those politicians now who were trying to score cheap political points by calling this facility a boondoggle?