Gulch Union (Endeavor Demonbreun): 3 towers (20 story/329,000 s.f. office, twin 28 story residential buildings)

[markhollin]

This is a re-configuring of a project that was supposedly going to be done by Hensler, but now will be the same Austin-based Endeavor group that is also doing the 26 story residential/office/Whole Foods on Broadway and 12th Ave. South.

Here is the Tennessean article on the new proposal that will include a 28 story hotel, 28 story residential, and 21 story office:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2017/07/26/tower-project-planned-deja-vu-demonbreun-site/427602001/

Here are the notes from the original concept (along with original renderings).  New renderings on page 2 of this thread on July 26, 2017.

 LA_TN and TheATX did some good snooping and found info online regarding Ray Hensler's proposed mixed-us project on what is commonly referred to as the Deja Vu site (although there are several more properties involved with the nearly full square block). 

This 1 million square foot mixed-use development encompasses 2.7 acres at the periphery of downtown Nashville in the north Gulch area (see map below) encompassed by Demonbreun on the south, 13th Ave. South/I-40/65 on the west, McGavock on the north, and 12th Ave. South on the east.

- Phase I will include a 290,000 square foot, 20-story office building with retail uses at the ground level and structured parking above- and below-grade.

- Phase II will add a 260,000 square foot, 250-room hotel and a 170,000 square foot, 75-unit condo tower to the site.

- Phase III will add 290,000 square feet of residential in a 25-story, 245-unit tower.

The complex topography, neighboring buildings and adjacent infrastructure all influenced the master planning and architecture of the project, along with Nashville's form-based code.

The renderings show structures of 34, 24, and 20 stories...so they don't match up with the Phase I, II, and II mentioned above.

Here are some older articles of speculation on Hensler's plans and the sale of the properties:

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/2016/02/ray-henslers-next-luxury-condo-tower-you-might-say.html

http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/real-estate/2016/02/08/nashville-deja-vu-strip-club-site-sold/79903640/

Here are some renderings of the original Hensler-led proposal which has now been eclipsed. Renderings of the new Endeavor plans in a July 26th post on page 2 of this thread.

Looking east from 13th Ave. South/I-40/65 and Demonbreun:

Looking NW towards Demonbreun and 12th Ave. South:

Looking SW from View from 12th Ave. south and McGavock:

 

Looking NE toward downtown above Demonbreun:

 

12th Avenue South entrance:

 

The Demonbreun Street entrance:

 

The development map showing the property as "Possible Condo Tower" in center of image:

[dmillsphoto]

gimme

[titanhog]

Mark...I think they pretty closely match up.  The 34 story is probably Phase II...which is a hotel / condo tower.  I believe it's the tall tower...and a combo, with hotel at the bottom and condos up top.

Btw...I'm assuming folks at the Tennessean, NBJ and NP will now hunt down the real story, right?

Edited March 5, 2017 by titanhog

[Tim29tn]

Give me this project, the second ave. partners, mainland and river north projects all at once starting NOW and I'd be content for the next 5 years with everything else happening presently. 

[CenterHill]

I'm not sure Hensler is involved with this project    Dave Arnholt and Jim Caden own the Deja Vu property.    

http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/real-estate/2016/02/08/nashville-deja-vu-strip-club-site-sold/79903640/

[smeagolsfree]

He is involved from all that I have heard. there was another article saying that he wants to do a residential tower at that site. I think it was in the NBJ.

 

Yes, the news outlets will be all over this and I can say one already is.

[titanhog]

2 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

He is involved from all that I have heard. there was another article saying that he wants to do a residential tower at that site. I think it was in the NBJ.

 

Yes, the news outlets will be all over this and I can say one already is.

I love this site!  We're news breakers, I'm tellin' ya! 

[smeagolsfree]

I will say that none of the folks involved in this project will be happy this is public. I'm sure when it hits the media, there will be some very upset individuals.

[henburg]

25 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

I will say that none of the folks involved in this project will be happy this is public. I'm sure when it hits the media, there will be some very upset individuals.

This may be a dumb question, but why will they be upset? 

[smeagolsfree]

Major mistake putting local companies names on buildings . Those companies have not announced they are relocating and this does not take in to count the project has not been made public. Only rumors and some speculation and hints as to what may be built there. 

It could also mean a huge client breech of trust if the renderings were not supposed to go public. We have also seen where some of these projects are conceptual and never meant to be made public. This could be just one of several concepts floating around.

[smeagolsfree]

Here is the NBJ article showing involvement from R Hensler.

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/2016/02/ray-henslers-next-luxury-condo-tower-you-might-say.html

 

[titanhog]

Smeagols...do you think the reason we haven't seen an article about this render yet is because it may only be a conceptual render from a company trying to get the job...and not a chosen design by the developer?

[RonCamp]

14 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Major mistake putting local companies names on buildings . Those companies have not announced they are relocating and this does not take in to count the project has not been made public. Only rumors and some speculation and hints as to what may be built there. 

It could also mean a huge client breech of trust if the renderings were not supposed to go public. We have also seen where some of these projects are conceptual and never meant to be made public. This could be just one of several concepts floating around.

Waller completed a long-term renewal of their lease downtown at the Nashville City Center several years ago.  The construction of the adjacent garage there was part of the transaction.  Speculation, but their logo's inclusion on the renders here leads me to believe that these files are several years old.  

[smeagolsfree]

17 minutes ago, titanhog said:

Smeagols...do you think the reason we haven't seen an article about this render yet is because it may only be a conceptual render from a company trying to get the job...and not a chosen design by the developer?

At this point, all I can say is no comment. Some odd things afoot.

[RonCamp]

1 hour ago, smeagolsfree said:

At this point, all I can say is no comment. Some odd things afoot.

Interesting that the docs now seem to be gone from the Nelsen Partners website...?

[NashRugger]

They really have no reason to be mad if things can be dug up and found like that, especially in this day and age. Sure, things may be public before they were ready for them to be, but that's what happens when websites are open like that. 

[smeagolsfree]

17 minutes ago, RonCamp said:

Interesting that the docs now seem to be gone from the Nelsen Partners website...?

Mmm hmm.

[titanhog]

[CenterHill]

3 hours ago, RonCamp said:

Waller completed a long-term renewal of their lease downtown at the Nashville City Center several years ago.  The construction of the adjacent garage there was part of the transaction.  Speculation, but their logo's inclusion on the renders here leads me to believe that these files are several years old.  

I don't know about age of the renderings, but that's correct as to Waller's current position.   That's my firm and I can confirm the rendering with our logo was a surprise to us. 

[LA_TN]

1 hour ago, RonCamp said:

Interesting that the docs now seem to be gone from the Nelsen Partners website...?

 

1 hour ago, smeagolsfree said:

Mmm hmm.

Surprised it lasted past 5pm Monday, even noon Monday

[smeagolsfree]

I really do not think this was an older rendering as the owners did not have all of the property assembled till recently. I do think it is telling that the project is no longer on the website.

We will just have to wait and see who makes the next move.

[claya91]

5 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

I really do not think this was an older rendering as the owners did not have all of the property assembled till recently. I do think it is telling that the project is no longer on the website.

We will just have to wait and see who makes the next move.

Who'd you think brought this to their attention? Us?

This hasn't been broken by any other news outlets, yet.

Edited March 7, 2017 by claya91

[smeagolsfree]

Hard to say. I know it was off the website pretty early today. You never know who reads the site or knows someone who does. We have tons of lurkers on here. It is after all a public forum.

[titanhog]

Rumors are they just carted ATX off to jail in handcuffs. 

[MLBrumby]

I believe Waller is midway into a ten year lease at Nashville City Center with options for five additional years. Theoretically, they could have a new building done and ready by the time their lease expires. That said, I'd bet my next paycheck that somebody at the architectural firm was called onto the carpet for letting those renderings out. 

Edited March 7, 2017 by MLBrumby