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20 minutes ago, codypet said:

I noticed the crossing on Virginia was green.  They need to repaint Rosalind's bike lanes.  They've faded already.  That said Rosalind needs an M&R badly.  Those bumps as you cross Washington.  Yeesh.  And its not the manholes alone doing it.

Remember, in Buddy’s Orlando, potholes are a feature, not a bug! Just refer to them as “traffic calming”.

 

 

 

 

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On 12/5/2020 at 9:03 PM, codypet said:

And I much prefer the RRFB over the stupid hybrid beacons.  You won't be able to tell me that the way they flash is appropriate for the meaning its supposed to be. 

For the uninitiated the hybrid beacon has two red lights and one yellow.  When a pedestrian wants to cross the beacon will flash yellow, then go solid yellow then red.  Fine.  Makes sense.  The pedestrian can begin crossing.  Then when the countdown starts, the red lights flash in a wig wag pattern which is intended to mean the cars can go if the way is clear.  What?! In what world is a wig wagging red light mean go if the way is clear.  If those lights flashed red in unison, I could get behind it, but not when it wig wags.  Wig wag red means stop and don't go until the lights are off.  Railroad crossings?  Wig wag.  School busses?  Wig wag.  Stop conditions on broken or new traffic signals?  flashing red.  Single red light signals?  Flashing red.

Ok end of rant.   

I think the RRFBs took a hit because of a recent pedestrian death.  The problem with any pedestrian crossing is the lack of understanding of traffic laws.  Many pedestrians think that if the light is flashing, they have a force field that protects them.  The pedestrian does not have to technically hit the button to cross.  It is simply an extra measure to warn drivers.  The driver must stop if a pedestrian is in the crosswalk, period.  There is also responsibility on the pedestrian to cross with caution and not immediately jump out into traffic.

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18 hours ago, EngineerNole said:

I think the RRFBs took a hit because of a recent pedestrian death.  The problem with any pedestrian crossing is the lack of understanding of traffic laws.  Many pedestrians think that if the light is flashing, they have a force field that protects them.  The pedestrian does not have to technically hit the button to cross.  It is simply an extra measure to warn drivers.  The driver must stop if a pedestrian is in the crosswalk, period.  There is also responsibility on the pedestrian to cross with caution and not immediately jump out into traffic.

You are correct a legislator tried to get them banned because a 12 y/o girl was run over and killed by an 80 or 90 y/o woman who said she didn't see the girl despite the RRFBs operating normally.  I don't think that was the RRFB's fault but  had more to do with who was operating the vehicle.  Reading through the article it seemed like the legislator had a problem with mid-block crosswalks in general.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/02/26/driver-who-fatally-struck-12-year-old-girl-at-satellite-beach-crosswalk-wont-face-charges/

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2 hours ago, codypet said:

You are correct a legislator tried to get them banned because a 12 y/o girl was run over and killed by an 80 or 90 y/o woman who said she didn't see the girl despite the RRFBs operating normally.  I don't think that was the RRFB's fault but  had more to do with who was operating the vehicle.  Reading through the article it seemed like the legislator had a problem with mid-block crosswalks in general.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/02/26/driver-who-fatally-struck-12-year-old-girl-at-satellite-beach-crosswalk-wont-face-charges/

Yeah, I'm sure people have been killed at HAWKs as well, given almost nobody seems to understand them at all. Its like asking people which lane they should be in to make a left at a multilane roundabout. For some reason, I can't even explain it to people.

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From  Community Paper

Some Orlando Urban Trail gaps to be filled

The City of Orlando will pay up to $676,394.57 to fill in gaps in the Orlando Urban Trail. Most of the funds come from FDOT. Two gaps, one from the colonial overpass near N. Orange Avenue and Colonial Drive to Magnolia Avenue, the other gap from the intersection of Michigan Street and Division Avenue north to Anderson Street.

Estimated to take 15 months to complete.

https://www.yourcommunitypaper.com/articles/scooter-share-program-extended-orlando-urban-trail-gaps-to-be-filled-assisted-living-facility-approved-for-lake-copeland/

Also, Scooter share program extended with 6-1 vote

 

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On 1/16/2021 at 3:12 PM, AndyPok1 said:

Note to self, e-mail Patty being that I'm one of her constituents.

Emailing her in support right? I can’t stand how often one of these is blocking the ADA ramp at an intersection or laying across the sidewalk. 

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On 1/16/2021 at 3:12 PM, AndyPok1 said:

Note to self, e-mail Patty being that I'm one of her constituents.

I just saw her on my bike ride today.  In fact she either walks a lot or I just have an uncanny ability to be biking while she's walking.

53 minutes ago, Jerry95 said:

Emailing her in support right? I can’t stand how often one of these is blocking the ADA ramp at an intersection or laying across the sidewalk. 

They cannot get their riders to park these things properly.  When the riders take a picture on how they park them, they should be getting warnings about improper parking.  Enough repeat warnings should get a ban.

 I assure you I do my damnedest to keep at least 5' of the sidewalk clear and where they tell you to drop these off are specifically away from ADA ramps and fire hydrants.

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18 hours ago, Jerry95 said:

Emailing her in support right? I can’t stand how often one of these is blocking the ADA ramp at an intersection or laying across the sidewalk. 

As, I believe, the most prominent scooter fan on this forum, it will most definitely be to let her know I disagree with her vote.  My biggest problem with the scooter system is the nonsensical 10mph limit (most cities I've been to have it at 12 or 15), and the fact they are OVERLY concentrated in the CBD, so I actually use them less than I'd like.

Just because users are bad doesn't mean we should scrap the entire concept that is literally perfect for solving last mile transit.  Add additional regulation.  Make it so the city can subpoena and fine users that park improperly.  Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.  ESPECIALLY during Covid.  

I live in Wadeview.  Right now if I want to go support local businesses downtown or in Hourglass, I either have to walk 40 minutes or get in an Uber.  Scooters solve this.

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20 hours ago, AndyPok1 said:

As, I believe, the most prominent scooter fan on this forum, it will most definitely be to let her know I disagree with her vote.  My biggest problem with the scooter system is the nonsensical 10mph limit (most cities I've been to have it at 12 or 15), and the fact they are OVERLY concentrated in the CBD, so I actually use them less than I'd like.

Just because users are bad doesn't mean we should scrap the entire concept that is literally perfect for solving last mile transit.  Add additional regulation.  Make it so the city can subpoena and fine users that park improperly.  Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.  ESPECIALLY during Covid.  

I live in Wadeview.  Right now if I want to go support local businesses downtown or in Hourglass, I either have to walk 40 minutes or get in an Uber.  Scooters solve this.

I understand the 10 mph rule because as is, people walking on the sidewalk nearly get run over exiting businesses.  There's a TON of wrought iron along the sidewalk downtown (tree stands, outdoor seating railings) and I fear a higher speed limit would make things worse.  

I agree that the scooters should be posted up in the neighborhoods.  When the program started, I could drop off in front of Barely & Vine, or the Nook, or Eola General, but they've removed all those hubs.  I suspect because with the limited number of scooters per company, they decided to focus on where the most traffic was.  The CBD.  If they limit the companies, and increase the number of scooters, I can see it changing so that they can post up in the neighborhoods again.   I know the hubs are moving around based on where the trips originate and end.   A bunch of hubs moved to in between the Vue and Skyhouse.  As did a number around 55W, Crescent Central, and the South Eola apts.  There's very few true CBD hubs.  

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Oh yeah, I fully understand why they set the limit where they did.  But I think its because they're looking at the problem the wrong way.  Except on MAJOR streets (Orange, Rosalind, South), scooter riding should be in the street.  Same as bicycling.

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Given I was almost mowed down by a Gen Z idiot on a scooter yesterday (who was talking away on a phone, no less) in Eola Park where the signs clearly prohibit them, I have no use for them.

Given the administration has seen fit to cut back on OPD bike patrols and the number of rangers in the park lately, I’m not optimistic about enforcement, either. 


 

 

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To be clear, I'm very anti them inside Eola.  Granted I'm also anti the cops being on bikes within Eola as well since bikes aren't allowed.  Set the example.

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Miami allows Code Enforcement and police to write tickets for infractions (improper parking, etc.) which holds both companies and users accountable, however, it's the Wild West here in Orlando. Anything goes with no consequences! I've emailed Patty's office about it and it seemed like no F's were given.

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Bungalower has previously reported and is now updating the Pine St bike lane will begin design work. This will be a 2-way, 10 feet wide, barrier protected lane running from Eola Dr to Gertrude's. I'm assuming this will eliminate any on street parking along Pine.

https://bungalower.com/2021/02/11/pine-street-protected-bike-lane-project-inching-closer-to-construction/

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On 2/11/2021 at 11:17 AM, AmIReal said:

Bungalower has previously reported and is now updating the Pine St bike lane will begin design work. This will be a 2-way, 10 feet wide, barrier protected lane running from Eola Dr to Gertrude's. I'm assuming this will eliminate any on street parking along Pine.

Interesting.  ALSO...the city has finally fixed the "fire hydrant" area (at Livingston and Maguire) on the OEA stretch of the Lake Underhill Trail (enroute to Cady Way). Just thought I'd post the update. Cheers.

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@Jolly Roger's Crackers Finally!  I rode there last week and was like, that's still not fixed?!?!?

I wish they'd fixed that pothole just south of there.   Also did you notice the directional signage appears to be misplaced?  They have a sign in front of longhorn in the south bound direction telling you you're X miles from Lake Druid Park and X miles from the Cady Way Trail, and X miles from the Dinky line, but you would just come off the Cady Way and you would have overshot the turn for the other two by like a half mile.

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On 2/19/2021 at 12:08 PM, codypet said:

I wish they'd fixed that pothole just south of there. 

Yeah I know....I call that little dipsy doodle the "dump bump" everytime I skirt by it.

 

On 2/19/2021 at 12:08 PM, codypet said:

Also did you notice the directional signage appears to be misplaced?

I first saw that sign a few weeks ago returning home from a ride. I was like...what the flock? Then this image popped into my head (and does so everytime

I pass it):

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I'll try to send an email to the city parks division about that soon. Cheers. JRC.

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