tarhoosier Posted November 8, 2021 Report Share Posted November 8, 2021 Charlotte #9 in annual population increase 2015-2019. Unlike all the other top ten our largest contributor state was New York, not a shared or neighboring state. BankTown I guess. https://www.commercialcafe.com/blog/metro-to-metro-migration-trends-update/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidclt Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 8 hours ago, tarhoosier said: Charlotte #9 in annual population increase 2015-2019. Unlike all the other top ten our largest contributor state was New York, not a shared or neighboring state. BankTown I guess. https://www.commercialcafe.com/blog/metro-to-metro-migration-trends-update/ Anecdotally of late, I've noticed a preponderance of Connecticut license plates throughout Dilworth and South End. Wondering what is bringing this seeming influx? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJHburg Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 57 minutes ago, davidclt said: Anecdotally of late, I've noticed a preponderance of Connecticut license plates throughout Dilworth and South End. Wondering what is bringing this seeming influx? interesting I know of econ dev prospect from CT but could be banking types moving south from the CT suburbs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJHburg Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Which county in NC is most like the state as a whole? Drumroll please...... Forsyth home of Winston Salem (and birthplace of Krispy Kreme) , then Franklin (NE of Raleigh) and then Gaston County! Check this study out by NC Demography Which county in NC is most like the state? | Carolina Demography (ncdemography.org) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phillydog Posted November 15, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) I'm one of the Connecticut transplants. The growth in people interested in moving to NC has grown exponentially over the last few years. NC is not well known -- people think of Florida, Texas, or Georgia first. Over the last decade, with more and more New Englanders learning about NC (and SC), I'd say interest in Georgia has fallen a lot while Florida and Texas has remained steady. In the 1970's - 2000's people were leaving CT for FL, GA, or TX. Now, it's NC. This is all anecdotal of course from people I know in New England. In reality, it's name recognition and promotion. NC is a far-superior state to Georgia in many respects -- # is the diversity of locations and landscapes. "Georgia 'mountains'"? LOL. But, also colleges and universities. When I'm in CT I see more and more NC university stickers on cars, so young people are picking schools here. They do like I did, discover how amazing NC is while in school and then stay (I'm on year 33 since moving here for grad school). Of course, the number of vehicles with "12" (NC state route 12) and OBX stickers has exploded. Then, people learn about Charlotte, Raleigh, Durham, Asheville, Wilmington, etc.. More than a few people have left Florida for NC (the "halfbacks"). All bodes well for NC, IMHO.... Edited November 15, 2021 by Phillydog 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post QCxpat Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) This morning, the U.S. Census Bureau released population estimates for the nation, states and Puerto Rico. The estimates are as of July 1, 2021. Please see tables and a link below. Link: https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/2021-population-estimates.html Excerpt: "The South, with a population of 127,225,329, was the most populous of the four regions (encompassing 38.3% of the total national population) and was the only region that had positive net domestic migration of 657,682 (the movement of people from one area to another within the United States) between 2020 and 2021. The Northeast region, the least populous of the four regions with a population of 57,159,838 in 2021, experienced a population decrease of -365,795 residents due to natural decrease (-31,052) and negative net domestic migration (-389,638). The West saw a gain in population (35,868) despite losing residents via negative net domestic migration (-144,941). Growth in the West was due to natural increase (143,082) and positive net international migration (38,347). Between 2020 and 2021, 33 states saw population increases and 17 states and the District of Columbia lost population, 11 of which had losses of over 10,000 people. This is a historically large number of states to lose population in a year." Table 1. Top 10 Most Populous States: 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 1 California 39,538,223 39,499,738 39,237,836 2 Texas 29,145,505 29,217,653 29,527,941 3 Florida 21,538,187 21,569,932 21,781,128 4 New York 20,201,249 20,154,933 19,835,913 5 Pennsylvania 13,002,700 12,989,625 12,964,056 6 Illinois 12,812,508 12,785,245 12,671,469 7 Ohio 11,799,448 11,790,587 11,780,017 8 Georgia 10,711,908 10,725,800 10,799,566 9 North Carolina 10,439,388 10,457,177 10,551,162 10 Michigan 10,077,331 10,067,664 10,050,811 Table 2. Top 10 States in Numeric Growth, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Numeric Growth 1 Texas 29,145,505 29,217,653 29,527,941 310,288 2 Florida 21,538,187 21,569,932 21,781,128 211,196 3 Arizona 7,151,502 7,177,986 7,276,316 98,330 4 North Carolina 10,439,388 10,457,177 10,551,162 93,985 5 Georgia 10,711,908 10,725,800 10,799,566 73,766 6 South Carolina 5,118,425 5,130,729 5,190,705 59,976 7 Utah 3,271,616 3,281,684 3,337,975 56,291 8 Tennessee 6,910,840 6,920,119 6,975,218 55,099 9 Idaho 1,839,106 1,847,772 1,900,923 53,151 10 Nevada 3,104,614 3,114,071 3,143,991 29,920 Table 3. Top 10 States in Percent Growth, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Percent Growth 1 Idaho 1,839,106 1,847,772 1,900,923 2.9% 2 Utah 3,271,616 3,281,684 3,337,975 1.7% 3 Montana 1,084,225 1,086,193 1,104,271 1.7% 4 Arizona 7,151,502 7,177,986 7,276,316 1.4% 5 South Carolina 5,118,425 5,130,729 5,190,705 1.2% 6 Delaware 989,948 991,886 1,003,384 1.2% 7 Texas 29,145,505 29,217,653 29,527,941 1.1% 8 Florida 21,538,187 21,569,932 21,781,128 1.0% 9 Nevada 3,104,614 3,114,071 3,143,991 1.0% 10 South Dakota 886,667 887,099 895,376 0.9% Table 4. Top 10 States (or Equivalent)in Numeric Decline, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Numeric Decline 1 New York 20,201,249 20,154,933 19,835,913 -319,020 2 California 39,538,223 39,499,738 39,237,836 -261,902 3 Illinois 12,812,508 12,785,245 12,671,469 -113,776 4 Massachusetts 7,029,917 7,022,220 6,984,723 -37,497 5 Louisiana 4,657,757 4,651,203 4,624,047 -27,156 6 Pennsylvania 13,002,700 12,989,625 12,964,056 -25,569 7 District of Columbia 689,545 690,093 670,050 -20,043 8 Michigan 10,077,331 10,067,664 10,050,811 -16,853 9 New Jersey 9,288,994 9,279,743 9,267,130 -12,613 10 Ohio 11,799,448 11,790,587 11,780,017 -10,570 Table 5. Top 10 States (or Equivalent) in Percent Decline, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Percent Decline 1 District of Columbia 689,545 690,093 670,050 -2.9% 2 New York 20,201,249 20,154,933 19,835,913 -1.6% 3 Illinois 12,812,508 12,785,245 12,671,469 -0.9% 4 Hawaii 1,455,271 1,451,911 1,441,553 -0.7% 5 California 39,538,223 39,499,738 39,237,836 -0.7% 6 Louisiana 4,657,757 4,651,203 4,624,047 -0.6% 7 Massachusetts 7,029,917 7,022,220 6,984,723 -0.5% 8 North Dakota 779,094 778,962 774,948 -0.5% 9 West Virginia 1,793,716 1,789,798 1,782,959 -0.4% 10 Mississippi 2,961,279 2,956,870 2,949,965 -0.2% Last Revised: December 21, 2021 Edited December 21, 2021 by QCxpat 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayman Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/21/2021 at 10:35 AM, QCxpat said: This morning, the U.S. Census Bureau released population estimates for the nation, states and Puerto Rico. The estimates are as of July 1, 2021. Please see tables and a link below. Link: https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/2021-population-estimates.html Excerpt: "The South, with a population of 127,225,329, was the most populous of the four regions (encompassing 38.3% of the total national population) and was the only region that had positive net domestic migration of 657,682 (the movement of people from one area to another within the United States) between 2020 and 2021. The Northeast region, the least populous of the four regions with a population of 57,159,838 in 2021, experienced a population decrease of -365,795 residents due to natural decrease (-31,052) and negative net domestic migration (-389,638). The West saw a gain in population (35,868) despite losing residents via negative net domestic migration (-144,941). Growth in the West was due to natural increase (143,082) and positive net international migration (38,347). Between 2020 and 2021, 33 states saw population increases and 17 states and the District of Columbia lost population, 11 of which had losses of over 10,000 people. This is a historically large number of states to lose population in a year." Table 1. Top 10 Most Populous States: 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 1 California 39,538,223 39,499,738 39,237,836 2 Texas 29,145,505 29,217,653 29,527,941 3 Florida 21,538,187 21,569,932 21,781,128 4 New York 20,201,249 20,154,933 19,835,913 5 Pennsylvania 13,002,700 12,989,625 12,964,056 6 Illinois 12,812,508 12,785,245 12,671,469 7 Ohio 11,799,448 11,790,587 11,780,017 8 Georgia 10,711,908 10,725,800 10,799,566 9 North Carolina 10,439,388 10,457,177 10,551,162 10 Michigan 10,077,331 10,067,664 10,050,811 Table 2. Top 10 States in Numeric Growth, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Numeric Growth 1 Texas 29,145,505 29,217,653 29,527,941 310,288 2 Florida 21,538,187 21,569,932 21,781,128 211,196 3 Arizona 7,151,502 7,177,986 7,276,316 98,330 4 North Carolina 10,439,388 10,457,177 10,551,162 93,985 5 Georgia 10,711,908 10,725,800 10,799,566 73,766 6 South Carolina 5,118,425 5,130,729 5,190,705 59,976 7 Utah 3,271,616 3,281,684 3,337,975 56,291 8 Tennessee 6,910,840 6,920,119 6,975,218 55,099 9 Idaho 1,839,106 1,847,772 1,900,923 53,151 10 Nevada 3,104,614 3,114,071 3,143,991 29,920 Table 3. Top 10 States in Percent Growth, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Percent Growth 1 Idaho 1,839,106 1,847,772 1,900,923 2.9% 2 Utah 3,271,616 3,281,684 3,337,975 1.7% 3 Montana 1,084,225 1,086,193 1,104,271 1.7% 4 Arizona 7,151,502 7,177,986 7,276,316 1.4% 5 South Carolina 5,118,425 5,130,729 5,190,705 1.2% 6 Delaware 989,948 991,886 1,003,384 1.2% 7 Texas 29,145,505 29,217,653 29,527,941 1.1% 8 Florida 21,538,187 21,569,932 21,781,128 1.0% 9 Nevada 3,104,614 3,114,071 3,143,991 1.0% 10 South Dakota 886,667 887,099 895,376 0.9% Table 4. Top 10 States (or Equivalent)in Numeric Decline, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Numeric Decline 1 New York 20,201,249 20,154,933 19,835,913 -319,020 2 California 39,538,223 39,499,738 39,237,836 -261,902 3 Illinois 12,812,508 12,785,245 12,671,469 -113,776 4 Massachusetts 7,029,917 7,022,220 6,984,723 -37,497 5 Louisiana 4,657,757 4,651,203 4,624,047 -27,156 6 Pennsylvania 13,002,700 12,989,625 12,964,056 -25,569 7 District of Columbia 689,545 690,093 670,050 -20,043 8 Michigan 10,077,331 10,067,664 10,050,811 -16,853 9 New Jersey 9,288,994 9,279,743 9,267,130 -12,613 10 Ohio 11,799,448 11,790,587 11,780,017 -10,570 Table 5. Top 10 States (or Equivalent) in Percent Decline, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Percent Decline 1 District of Columbia 689,545 690,093 670,050 -2.9% 2 New York 20,201,249 20,154,933 19,835,913 -1.6% 3 Illinois 12,812,508 12,785,245 12,671,469 -0.9% 4 Hawaii 1,455,271 1,451,911 1,441,553 -0.7% 5 California 39,538,223 39,499,738 39,237,836 -0.7% 6 Louisiana 4,657,757 4,651,203 4,624,047 -0.6% 7 Massachusetts 7,029,917 7,022,220 6,984,723 -0.5% 8 North Dakota 779,094 778,962 774,948 -0.5% 9 West Virginia 1,793,716 1,789,798 1,782,959 -0.4% 10 Mississippi 2,961,279 2,956,870 2,949,965 -0.2% Last Revised: December 21, 2021 North Carolina is now going faster than Georgia again. It's interesting to see how this translate throughout the 2020s. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KJHburg Posted December 22, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 54 minutes ago, kayman said: North Carolina is now going faster than Georgia again. It's interesting to see how this translate throughout the 2020s. Georgia has one strong horse in the race (Atlanta) NC has two (Charlotte and Raleigh/Durham) even our young upstarts we have more of (Asheville, Wilmington) vs. Georgia's Savannah. More balanced population growth across NC helps our state gain and grow faster than Georgia. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kayman Posted December 22, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, KJHburg said: Georgia has one strong horse in the race (Atlanta) NC has two (Charlotte and Raleigh/Durham) even our young upstarts we have more of (Asheville, Wilmington) vs. Georgia's Savannah. More balanced population growth across NC helps our state gain and grow faster than Georgia. True! Let's hope Charlotte accelerates in growth so that it guarantees that Georgia is no longer even in our (North Carolina) rearview mirror. Georgia jumped pass us in the 2010s and it's been a neck-to-neck race in who is the largest since then. Edited December 23, 2021 by kayman 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temeteron Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/21/2021 at 10:35 AM, QCxpat said: This morning, the U.S. Census Bureau released population estimates for the nation, states and Puerto Rico. The estimates are as of July 1, 2021. Please see tables and a link below. Link: https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/2021-population-estimates.html Excerpt: "The South, with a population of 127,225,329, was the most populous of the four regions (encompassing 38.3% of the total national population) and was the only region that had positive net domestic migration of 657,682 (the movement of people from one area to another within the United States) between 2020 and 2021. The Northeast region, the least populous of the four regions with a population of 57,159,838 in 2021, experienced a population decrease of -365,795 residents due to natural decrease (-31,052) and negative net domestic migration (-389,638). The West saw a gain in population (35,868) despite losing residents via negative net domestic migration (-144,941). Growth in the West was due to natural increase (143,082) and positive net international migration (38,347). Between 2020 and 2021, 33 states saw population increases and 17 states and the District of Columbia lost population, 11 of which had losses of over 10,000 people. This is a historically large number of states to lose population in a year." Table 1. Top 10 Most Populous States: 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 1 California 39,538,223 39,499,738 39,237,836 2 Texas 29,145,505 29,217,653 29,527,941 3 Florida 21,538,187 21,569,932 21,781,128 4 New York 20,201,249 20,154,933 19,835,913 5 Pennsylvania 13,002,700 12,989,625 12,964,056 6 Illinois 12,812,508 12,785,245 12,671,469 7 Ohio 11,799,448 11,790,587 11,780,017 8 Georgia 10,711,908 10,725,800 10,799,566 9 North Carolina 10,439,388 10,457,177 10,551,162 10 Michigan 10,077,331 10,067,664 10,050,811 Table 2. Top 10 States in Numeric Growth, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Numeric Growth 1 Texas 29,145,505 29,217,653 29,527,941 310,288 2 Florida 21,538,187 21,569,932 21,781,128 211,196 3 Arizona 7,151,502 7,177,986 7,276,316 98,330 4 North Carolina 10,439,388 10,457,177 10,551,162 93,985 5 Georgia 10,711,908 10,725,800 10,799,566 73,766 6 South Carolina 5,118,425 5,130,729 5,190,705 59,976 7 Utah 3,271,616 3,281,684 3,337,975 56,291 8 Tennessee 6,910,840 6,920,119 6,975,218 55,099 9 Idaho 1,839,106 1,847,772 1,900,923 53,151 10 Nevada 3,104,614 3,114,071 3,143,991 29,920 Table 3. Top 10 States in Percent Growth, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Percent Growth 1 Idaho 1,839,106 1,847,772 1,900,923 2.9% 2 Utah 3,271,616 3,281,684 3,337,975 1.7% 3 Montana 1,084,225 1,086,193 1,104,271 1.7% 4 Arizona 7,151,502 7,177,986 7,276,316 1.4% 5 South Carolina 5,118,425 5,130,729 5,190,705 1.2% 6 Delaware 989,948 991,886 1,003,384 1.2% 7 Texas 29,145,505 29,217,653 29,527,941 1.1% 8 Florida 21,538,187 21,569,932 21,781,128 1.0% 9 Nevada 3,104,614 3,114,071 3,143,991 1.0% 10 South Dakota 886,667 887,099 895,376 0.9% Table 4. Top 10 States (or Equivalent)in Numeric Decline, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Numeric Decline 1 New York 20,201,249 20,154,933 19,835,913 -319,020 2 California 39,538,223 39,499,738 39,237,836 -261,902 3 Illinois 12,812,508 12,785,245 12,671,469 -113,776 4 Massachusetts 7,029,917 7,022,220 6,984,723 -37,497 5 Louisiana 4,657,757 4,651,203 4,624,047 -27,156 6 Pennsylvania 13,002,700 12,989,625 12,964,056 -25,569 7 District of Columbia 689,545 690,093 670,050 -20,043 8 Michigan 10,077,331 10,067,664 10,050,811 -16,853 9 New Jersey 9,288,994 9,279,743 9,267,130 -12,613 10 Ohio 11,799,448 11,790,587 11,780,017 -10,570 Table 5. Top 10 States (or Equivalent) in Percent Decline, 2020 to 2021 Rank Geographic Area April 1, 2020 (Estimates Base) July 1, 2020 July 1, 2021 Percent Decline 1 District of Columbia 689,545 690,093 670,050 -2.9% 2 New York 20,201,249 20,154,933 19,835,913 -1.6% 3 Illinois 12,812,508 12,785,245 12,671,469 -0.9% 4 Hawaii 1,455,271 1,451,911 1,441,553 -0.7% 5 California 39,538,223 39,499,738 39,237,836 -0.7% 6 Louisiana 4,657,757 4,651,203 4,624,047 -0.6% 7 Massachusetts 7,029,917 7,022,220 6,984,723 -0.5% 8 North Dakota 779,094 778,962 774,948 -0.5% 9 West Virginia 1,793,716 1,789,798 1,782,959 -0.4% 10 Mississippi 2,961,279 2,956,870 2,949,965 -0.2% Last Revised: December 21, 2021 The fact that we were 4th biggest numerical gain (and by a lot) is insane! I wonder how many of those numbers are Charlotte area 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_vertical Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 I believe for the last several years Charlotte has been maintaining an annual growth of 15,000 to 19,000 people a year so probably accounting for about 18 to 20 percent of the state total. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temeteron Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 hours ago, go_vertical said: I believe for the last several years Charlotte has been maintaining an annual growth of 15,000 to 19,000 people a year so probably accounting for about 18 to 20 percent of the state total. I would it would be more. The majority is either Charlotte or Triangle. I can’t imagine the rest of the state to have as much. Seems off to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post go_vertical Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 You'd be surprised. That was just within the city so if you include the metro and add that to what the Triangle is bringing to the table that adds up to be at least 60% or more of that 93,000 annual state increase. Then your left with 30,000 to 35,000 people dispersed amongst the other 200+ cities and towns across the state. I would imagine Asheville, the Triad and areas along the coast would absorb probably 3/4 of that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermit Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) ^ yea, based on the 2010-2020 numbers essentially ALL of that growth is in metro Charlotte and Raleigh with token amounts from Wilmington metro and Asheville (mostly Buncombe and Henderson). Don’t forget, more than half of NC’s counties lost population between 2010-2020 and the Triad was essentially flat. As boomers start to thin out we will see some accelerating declines happening in the Sandhills (Gen-Xers don’t play as much golf), Mountains, and possibly the the coast (but I think most of the coast will do fine as it increasingly becomes part of the Triangle burbs) Edited December 24, 2021 by kermit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tozmervo Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 4 hours ago, kermit said: ^ yea, based on the 2010-2020 numbers essentially ALL of that growth is in metro Charlotte and Raleigh with token amounts from Wilmington and Asheville. Don’t forget, more than half of NC’s counties lost population between 2010-2020 and the Triad was essentially flat. As boomers start to thin out we will see some significant declines happening in the Sandhills (Gen-Xers don’t play as much golf), Mountains, and possibly the the coast (but I think most of the coast will do fine as it increasingly becomes part of the Triangle burbs) "Start to thin out" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crucial_Infra Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 If only York County was in North Carolina, we’d already be more populous than a Georgia. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hushpuppy321 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 NC seems on Pace to be neck & neck with GA by 2027 to 2029 and may overtake Georgia (albeit slightly) in population by the early 2030’s timeframe. What’s interesting is that NC, GA and Ohio would essentially be the same size population wise if trends continue unabated (In 2030’s). That’s incredible to imagine the tectonic shift in USA Population but those three could all have the same amount of Electoral College Votes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick2 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 3:46 PM, Hushpuppy321 said: NC seems on Pace to be neck & neck with GA by 2027 to 2029 and may overtake Georgia (albeit slightly) in population by the early 2030’s timeframe. What’s interesting is that NC, GA and Ohio would essentially be the same size population wise if trends continue unabated (In 2030’s). That’s incredible to imagine the tectonic shift in USA Population but those three could all have the same amount of Electoral College Votes. What's crazy to me is that by 2050, it's not unreasonable to think that NC and GA could be the fifth and sixth largest states by population likely passing Illinois and Pennsylvania. People always mention how huge California is by population but if you copied it on the east coast from central Florida to central Virginia (basically excluding the NOVA area and Miami), there wouldn't be much difference in population. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarhoosier Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Los Angeles County alone has more than 10 million people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KJHburg Posted December 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) Interesting according to the stats above the Carolinas both North and South Carolina have close to 16 M people now. And Charlotte of course is the dominant city in both states and on the border. Edited December 30, 2021 by KJHburg 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temeteron Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, KJHburg said: Interesting according to the stats above the Carolinas both North and South Carolina have close to 16 M people now. And Charlotte of course is the dominant city in both states and on the border. We need more transplants from other Carolinas cities to fill in our numbers Edited December 30, 2021 by Temeteron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phillydog Posted December 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 hours ago, KJHburg said: Interesting according to the stats above the Carolinas both North and South Carolina have close to 16 M people now. And Charlotte of course is the dominant city in both states and on the border. ...and, the 85 Carolina corridor is home to 11 of the 16 million. Meanwhile, the rest of country has no idea. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CLT2014 Posted December 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Phillydog said: ...and, the 85 Carolina corridor is home to 11 of the 16 million. Meanwhile, the rest of country has no idea. I think the country doesn't have any idea because the route is relatively low density for being 310 miles from Anderson, SC at the edge of the Greenville-Spartanburg area to Clayton, NC towards the end of the Triangle. It is a pretty long distance.... Los Angeles is nearly as close to Phoenix and Las Vegas as Anderson is to Clayton. Over that very vast distance we only get to ~11 million people though. There is continuous sprawl much of the way, but it is low density sprawl, which leads to a perception while driving through of the area being relatively "rural" feeling because you never get a true "mega city" feel along the route. Much of the route is visually dominated by Waffle House signs, truck stops, and trees. Meanwhile 310 miles is equivalent to: Philadelphia to Boston.... scooping up nearly 40 million people in metros along the route. The distance between cities in the North Central Midwest like Detroit, Columbus, Cleveland, Indianapolis, et... amounting to over 20 million people. The distance between cities in the Texas triangle of Dallas-Fort Worth, San Antonio / Austin, and Houston (all less than 300 miles from each other) amounting to over 18 million people. The entirety of Southern California from Bakersfield through Los Angeles down to the Mexican border in San Diego amounting to over 23 million people. The entire Florida peninsula is within 310 miles of each other amounting to 20 million people The Carolinas I-85 corridor thus falls below the "mega" regions, but in an in between tier where it is slightly more populated than the I-5 corridor of Portland / Seattle, but less than the 20 million+ regions that get a lot of the attention. If you look at a bigger region though, the entire Piedmont Atlantic Mega Region (pulling in Atlanta, Birmingham, et...) is a respectable 5th place in the country of the 11 mega regions. Despite slowing population growth, the Great Lakes and Northeast mega regions are just on another tier though at 50 million+ people each: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaregions_of_the_United_States Edited December 30, 2021 by CLT2014 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick2 Posted December 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 @CLT2014 I find the megaregion thought exercise fascinating but a few of them make no sense to me. The gulf region, the front range, and the great lakes are too spread out and independent of each other to be considered as one mega region in my opinion. But the rest are pretty cool. The great lakes should be split into three. The gulf shouldn't exist and the front range should remove new mexico cities. I think if trends continue, the Piedmont region will become incredible in the future. As well as Texas and Florida. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Windsurfer Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Nick2 said: @CLT2014 I find the megaregion thought exercise fascinating but a few of them make no sense to me. The gulf region, the front range, and the great lakes are too spread out and independent of each other to be considered as one mega region in my opinion. But the rest are pretty cool. The great lakes should be split into three. The gulf shouldn't exist and the front range should remove new mexico cities. I think if trends continue, the Piedmont region will become incredible in the future. As well as Texas and Florida. I know I'm farting in the wind with the crowd, but really, I still don't understand what's so great about mega population centers. Bad air, expensive, confining if you like the outdoors, aggressive drivers, on and on... I've lived in Sao Paulo, Santiago, London, and have relatives in LA. I just don't get why becoming another one of those is a good thing. Sorry to be a wet blanket. Quality of life in a place like Greenville, SC, San Luis Obispo, or even Santa Barbara is so easy and 'fun'. 4 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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