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There is no doubt that bi-partisan politics are complete bullcrap and I have been politically unaffiliated since I registered to vote at 18 -- never has a member of either party represented my viewpoi

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I'm planning on renting out my house to some Breitbart grifter for way too much money and then getting the hell out of town for that week. I typically take the light rail to my office just inside the

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So we’re not allowed to have a political opinion on this thread unless it supports the liberal mentality? Well in that case… Here comes another Covid strain. Can’t wait to watch the Biden sheep m

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7 hours ago, kermit said:

WTF???? In what context could this ever possibly be appropriate for an elected official? Did I fall asleep and wake up in turn of the century Guatemala?


 

It's a "clever" way to grab data from MAGAts. They'd fall for it (like Thom or Eric care what any of us think and I'm sure my message to him would not be delivered anyway). I dread the next 10 months but I relish voting against Thom Tillis again.

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On 8/23/2019 at 9:09 PM, Dandy Chiggens said:

I dont have time at the moment but I would like to see where Australia sources their immigrants from and how many are considered "highly skilled". 

Welcome back Dandy Chiggens. Did you ever get a chance to follow up on your question about the immigration - productivity relationship?

 

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I know I am coming in half-cocked and half-way into the above posts about immigrant/productivity comments, but it needs to be said how obscene it is that our society constantly ends up in a place of discourse where that relationship needs to be noted.

People in any country anywhere have exactly the same needs and goals in life, and making the case for "productivity," a misplaced value in our flawed modern system, seeks to validate a human's existence by reducing it to an arbitrary, dehumanizing metric.

The conversation that should be had with immigration involves asking what made the migration necessary in the first place, and how our society is complicit in those factors... Then figure out how to change that.

But doing that would upend too much about how our system operates, so we end up needing to convince people these folks' lives have value by saying how good of a cog they can be in our machine, which is only set up in the first place to extract as much labor and life out of people as possible to increase the wealth of a few.

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The thing that gets me the *most* upset about so much of the ill-informed debates about immigration--I'm not commenting on anyone's specific post here, just reflecting--is that this is something that's going to escalate dramatically in importance in the coming decades, because of global climate change. What we're experiencing now, in terms of levels of "legal" and "illegal" immigration, is just a dress rehearsal for what's to come. I get really, really, really frustrated, almost more than with any other major issue, with how little effort some (probably most) people are putting into actually trying to resolve this and come up with actual, workable policy, instead turning it into an internecine conflict that's going end up like a Nero fiddling while the [world] burns situation... 

 

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As the saying goes, Florida becomes less Southern the farther South you go.

Like Florida, North Carolina is not really a swing state, but rather, a state with growing blue metros and deepening red hinterlands.  This is why Arizona has a much greater chance of turning blue than Florida and/or North Carolina, as Arizona's population is largely urban with very little rural population. 

Higher urban growth will still make North Carolina competitive, but also having high rural population means North Carolina isn't as much demographic destiny as it is a campaign to get out the vote. Demographic changes help most, when rural areas are sparse (AZ, CO) or income and/or educational attainment are strong (CO, VA), but in deeply divided, urban-rural states (FL, NC), it will come down to turnout.

 

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5 hours ago, southslider said:

As the saying goes, Florida becomes less Southern the farther South you go.

Like Florida, North Carolina is not really a swing state, but rather, a state with growing blue metros and deepening red hinterlands.  This is why Arizona has a much greater chance of turning blue than Florida and/or North Carolina, as Arizona's population is largely urban with very little rural population. 

Higher urban growth will still make North Carolina competitive, but also having high rural population means North Carolina isn't as much demographic destiny as it is a campaign to get out the vote. Demographic changes help most, when rural areas are sparse (AZ, CO) or income and/or educational attainment are strong (CO, VA), but in deeply divided, urban-rural states (FL, NC), it will come down to turnout.

 

I would give it another 10-20 years before almost all Rural centers disintegrate. Rural centers do not have tacit knowledge as the metropolitan areas do.  Automation in the manufacturing industry is almost complete, which will leave only knowledge-based jobs. North Carolina is already seeing this trend with migration from Rural to Urban areas. In a way, this will save the taxpayer a ton of money infrastructure and services wise. 

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40 minutes ago, mpretori said:

@Neo Can you do something about @Dandy Chiggens ? This is ridiculous and harassment/trolling. If not, this will be my last post. 

I’m actually slightly amused this gets under people’s skin so much lol.

14 hours ago, southslider said:

As the saying goes, Florida becomes less Southern the farther South you go.

Like Florida, North Carolina is not really a swing state, but rather, a state with growing blue metros and deepening red hinterlands.  This is why Arizona has a much greater chance of turning blue than Florida and/or North Carolina, as Arizona's population is largely urban with very little rural population. 

Higher urban growth will still make North Carolina competitive, but also having high rural population means North Carolina isn't as much demographic destiny as it is a campaign to get out the vote. Demographic changes help most, when rural areas are sparse (AZ, CO) or income and/or educational attainment are strong (CO, VA), but in deeply divided, urban-rural states (FL, NC), it will come down to turnout.

 

100% agree. Anytime I hear people talk about NC ‘s changing demographics and how it’ll be the next VA.

 

i just think how as fast and dominate the GOP becomes in rural southern areas. I mean. Literally 10 years ago, the southern states were all Democrat. Alabama was run by Dems (house, senate, or governor) along with other Deep South states up until about just 15 years ago. 
 

Now it’s unfathomable 

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14 hours ago, mpretori said:

@Neo Can you do something about @Dandy Chiggens ? This is ridiculous and harassment/trolling. If not, this will be my last post. 

I don't recall seeing any reported posts so I'm unsure which post(s) are being referenced.

I would like to remind everyone that this is an open forum where we do not suspend, ban, etc as a result of one's opinion. If a user is breaking any rules then appropriate action will be taken but I do need the post to be reported as a result of the high activity of UP (impossible for me to go through every post for every single day).

Everyone also has the ability to hide posts from other users if they do not want to see content from that user(s).

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12 minutes ago, Neo said:

I don't recall seeing any reported posts so I'm unsure which post(s) are being referenced.

I would like to remind everyone that this is an open forum where we do not suspend, ban, etc as a result of one's opinion. If a user is breaking any rules then appropriate action will be taken but I do need the post to be reported as a result of the high activity of UP (impossible for me to go through every post for every single day).

Everyone also has the ability to hide posts from other users if they do not want to see content from that user(s).

Anyone can downvote everything without impunity? 

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