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Looks like one of you is discussing population density figures and the other is referring to building density and vibrancy.  

You are both right and have valid points from what I can see.

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I don’t know what’s going on anymore. So Charlotte is getting a MLS team? :D Needs drone shots also. 

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7 minutes ago, gman430 said:

I don’t know what’s going on anymore. So Charlotte is getting a MLS team? :D Needs drone shots also. 

Tepper wants a MLS team.  A questionnaire sent to Panthers’ season ticket holders had questions about soccer.  And, MLS recently decided to expand to 30 teams.

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14 hours ago, RiverwoodCLT said:

 

I hope he gets a MBL team.  Would be great for Charlotte.

I agree.  I’d like to see a team move here.  The White Sox and Tampa come to mind.

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On 5/10/2019 at 8:40 AM, AirNostrumMAD said:

 

I don’t think it’s misleading. Misleading is saying Charlotte is a city of 700,000 people without specifying it has yuge city limits.

Theres nothing misleading about the population density/population of 2 sq. Miles of the uptown. 23,000 people live there. 11,000 ppsm.  I live in DC and I can say, yes, the very bustling dense feeling parts are the 3 floor buildings with retail after retail. Charlotte doesn’t have an equivalent uptown. And we won’t. Because we tore it down. So I get the part it may not feel as dense due to our lack of the smaller scale, older building stock. But that doesn’t change the #’s. Especially when the downtowns are nearly the same sq. Miles. Misleading would be including midtown or SouthEnd, etc.   

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its nearly 900,000.

And what we tore down never resembled anything in DC, there was like 20 square blocks of density, about what exists today. Now that said, if we had added the current 20 blocks of density and preserved and added onto the previous 20, we'd be a whole lot more urban and vibrant place. This is the one nod I give Raleigh over Charlotte.

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1 hour ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

its nearly 900,000.

And what we tore down never resembled anything in DC, there was like 20 square blocks of density, about what exists today. Now that said, if we had added the current 20 blocks of density and preserved and added onto the previous 20, we'd be a whole lot more urban and vibrant place. This is the one nod I give Raleigh over Charlotte.

I don’t think that Charlotte and Raleigh are comparable.   Raleigh, to me, is more like WS.  I think that Charlotte is way better than Raleigh in every respect.

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I didn’t say Charlotte did or didn’t resemble DC. I was saying the most vibrant parts of cities tend to be the low rise/mid rise older buildings with spaces for local retailers, etc. I mentioned DC as an example that the older parts have a more vibrant feel than the newer development that all have a Starbucks, Subway, Orange Theory and CVS. And that Charlotte’s equivalent of older stock buildings have been torn down and that’s not coming back. We’re not goin to have comic book stores or anything in Novel Stonewall or Ally Tower.

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13 minutes ago, AirNostrumMAD said:

 

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I didn’t say Charlotte did or didn’t resemble DC. I was saying the most vibrant parts of cities tend to be the low rise/mid rise older buildings with spaces for local retailers, etc. I mentioned DC as an example that the older parts have a more vibrant feel than the newer development that all have a Starbucks, Subway, Orange Theory and CVS. And that Charlotte’s equivalent of older stock buildings have been torn down and that’s not coming back. We’re not goin to have comic book stores or anything in Novel Stonewall or Ally Tower.

That does tie into Denver and Burlington in my experience.

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7 hours ago, Ric0_0 said:

I think the loss of old building stock has been a big loss for many southern cities in general. Atlanta has still lost quite a lot even though it managed to keep Farlie Poplar.

Edgewood, Highlands, East Atlanta too.

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Most Southern cities never had that much since between the end of the Civil War and the 1930s, they were much smaller than today and economically weak.

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Just now, Matthew.Brendan said:

Do we need to dredge up the pictures of what was torn down? There may not have been a lot to lose, but was lost was significant. 

The photo posted is of the BoA Corporate Center site. I prefer what we have now (although I do wish the Eckerd was still uptown).

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and the following comparison was of “wide swaths” of other cities. To totally beat this poor dead horse we have the still-fresh example of the Polk building - which as has been noted would never have been torn down in Savannah, Charleston, Austin, etc and other cities that value and protect such buildings. 

Its easy to wipe away all the prior “urban renewal” excuses as a different time but when it’s still occurring in front of our eyes.... not sure what else to say about that. 

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22 minutes ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

and the following comparison was of “wide swaths” of other cities. To totally beat this poor dead horse we have the still-fresh example of the Polk building - which as has been noted would never have been torn down in Savannah, Charleston, Austin, etc and other cities that value and protect such buildings. 

Its easy to wipe away all the prior “urban renewal” excuses as a different time but when it’s still occurring in front of our eyes.... not sure what else to say about that. 

Charleston and Savannah, no. Austin, ha! 

But back to Duke. I want more info. I find it odd CK is being so stingy with its renderings/elevations. 

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