Duke Energy Plaza Headquarters | 40 Story formerly Charlotte Metro Tower

[CLT_sc]

1 hour ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Yea its pretty wild. in 2010 we thought it'd be 10 years before something else got built uptown, that's how bad the recession felt, thank god we were wrong. I guess we never thought we'd diversify quickly enough, and boy did Charlotte figure it out. We are a pretty resilient bunch.

My only complaint with this building is they didn't find a way to make room for a hotel tower toward college.

As you look around through, I really think that Tryon and Stonewall is the new crossroads of the city, with uptown currently extending into South End. Legacy 4/5/6 will determine just how this intersection feels. 

It really is becoming a critical intersection in town.  Stonewall out to Midtown has developed into a nice corridor....although it still has a ways to go.  But, way better than the oversized intersection at South and 277 where Wholefoods now sits.

And, following S Tryon, Southend now feels like an extension of town instead of an island staring across 277.  We invested the Park Ave building when it was built around 2002.  At the time, it was almost alone with the exception of Prices and a few other places.  Today, lots (an understatement)  of apartments, new offices, and high end retailers like Design Within Reach.  There is even a Mclaren dealer on S Tryon.  I expect to see a lot more retail down S Tryon and Camden which makes a lot of sense. And, it appears that the appetite for office in Southend won’t go away.  

Overall, with this new tower, I like the blend  of s tryon into Southend.  And, I know I have said this 1000 Times, not sure why there aren’t more hotel announcements.  A project like this makes a ton of sense to have a hotel component.

Edited June 25, 2019 by CLT_sc

[go_vertical]

Completely agree with this. What I hope to see is the southern side of 277 built up like the other side has with dense office in the 15 to 20 story range (with a couple of 25 to 30 sprinkled in) until around Midnight/1100 S Tryon and then a steady drop to a more pedestrian scale as you continue south. By the time anything like this were to materialize something would have happened (or is happening) in the northern end of uptown. Imagine Tryon being a continuous cavern of activity from the Brookshire through South End. 

[KJHburg]

Oh yeah in these boom times it is easy to forget about this 41 story sleek tower Childress Klein is also building.  walk bys today and my parking hut is being guarded still and being used a construction gatehouse temporarily.  

 

[RaleighHeelsfan]

Any guesses when the next 40 plus story tower will be announced? Better yet, 50 plus?

[UrbanCharlotte]

11 minutes ago, RaleighHeelsfan said:

Any guesses when the next 40 plus story tower will be announced? Better yet, 50 plus?

There are a few sites in play for something 40+..

[TheOneRJ]

4 hours ago, RaleighHeelsfan said:

Any guesses when the next 40 plus story tower will be announced? Better yet, 50 plus?

Probably the convention hotel which I think is coming sooner rather than later 

[nakers2]

11 hours ago, RaleighHeelsfan said:

Any guesses when the next 40 plus story tower will be announced? Better yet, 50 plus?

I love how this is by no means an outlandish thing to be asking here. 

[southslider]

On 6/25/2019 at 10:57 AM, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Theres really no reason to speculate anything, this is the footprint.

I speculate the upper floors will fall inside the faint square shown closer to Tryon on the footprint, and thus parking, or at least a shorter height, more towards College, where a driveway is also shown.

Edited June 28, 2019 by southslider

[Blakcatfan]

16 hours ago, TheOneRJ said:

Probably the convention hotel which I think is coming sooner rather than later 

Do you think the convention hotel is dependent upon Duke's move out of 401 S. College, which is likely dependent upon the completion of Metro Tower?  Or is there another location that works for the hotel that could get built sooner?

[CarolinaDaydreamin]

On 6/25/2019 at 11:32 AM, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Legacy 4/5/6 will determine just how this intersection feels. 

Any new ideas on what this will look like with Truist/Lowes developments?

[nakers2]

1 hour ago, Blakcatfan said:

Do you think the convention hotel is dependent upon Duke's move out of 401 S. College, which is likely dependent upon the completion of Metro Tower?  Or is there another location that works for the hotel that could get built sooner?

I know I'm not the one you asked, but I think if you want a "true" convention hotel, the 401 S. College site is the only one that makes sense as it can easily be zippered into the existing convention center, and also add some floor space to the convention center itself. I walked around the building the other day and it's actually a lot bigger than it looks, it's square footage is dwarfed by the convention center, so it appears to be a postage stamp size lot, but it's not, easily capable of supporting a 1000+ room hotel. However, I could see a 1000+ hotel being built elsewhere. The lot across from NASCAR is in contention, as NASCAR has ballroom space, as well as at Legacy, despite being 1-2 blocks away. However there is no way the Duke data center will not be redeveloped at some point. It could serve to add much needed convention space, or another hotel, albeit smaller, but maybe of the 5 star variety. 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, nakers2 said:

I know I'm not the one you asked, but I think if you want a "true" convention hotel, the 401 S. College site is the only one that makes sense as it can easily be zippered into the existing convention center, and also add some floor space to the convention center itself. I walked around the building the other day and it's actually a lot bigger than it looks, it's square footage is dwarfed by the convention center, so it appears to be a postage stamp size lot, but it's not, easily capable of supporting a 1000+ room hotel. However, I could see a 1000+ hotel being built elsewhere. The lot across from NASCAR is in contention, as NASCAR has ballroom space, as well as at Legacy, despite being 1-2 blocks away. However there is no way the Duke data center will not be redeveloped at some point. It could serve to add much needed convention space, or another hotel, albeit smaller, but maybe of the 5 star variety. 

This is absolutely the lot that will be the 1000 room convention center. While talks are on hold for now, Charlotte's incredible growth from an employment base perspective has to have people blowing dust off the work that had already started. I know something was drawn in the 40 floor range with ample meeting space.

[NotSoAlien]

Like ricky_davis_fan said above. I have heard the hotel was going to be put at 401 S College st. BUT I heard this 6 years ago. That's when they started getting the third party vendors to start getting their data equipment out of the 401 building. (not sure if everyone knew, but 401 was/is a data center that had every ISP there.) There is still a company in the building as of today so they have to move out (which has been in progress for 5 years). Then like already mentioned the new duke tower has to be completed before all the people move out of the buildings. 

 

[Guest]

But just a reminder for folks 1000 room hotel is going to take at least 100M in tax dollars. So thats a uphill battle. Theres a LOT of big time Tax Dollar asks coming up. Discovery Place is going to be record breaking, the Panthers want at the least a huge renovation, at the most an entire stadium, the Main Library is going to cost a big chunk of change, and lord knows how we are going to pay for the 2030 Transit Plan.

Edited June 28, 2019 by Guest

[Matthew.Brendan]

Get outta here with your facts!

[cltbwimob]

I think that if/when we get a convention hotel it will almost certainly land at 401 S. College.  I imagine there is a scenario where the city uses public subsidies to build the fourth and final “quadrant” of the convention center and that quadrant just happens to have a foundation and supporting structures that are designed to have a large hotel built over the top of it.  The new convention center space would also just happen to be a shared meeting space with the hotel.  The hotel developer essentially gets their foundation and lower levels built by the city at no cost to them.  I bet the city also gives the hotel developer air rights at no cost or at highly reduced cost.  I think that’s how the city can/will get around the local hotel association’s opposition to using taxpayer dollars to support an entity that will become their competition.

Edited June 28, 2019 by cltbwimob

[TheOneRJ]

Or include a 1000+ room hotel with a new stadium proposal. Boom. 

[KJHburg]

Drove from Steele Creek to Plaza Midwood and right through uptown (77 was jammed) so I checked on my parking hut.  A guy was kicking back inside of it look closely.  I have agreed to let them use it until my designer in NYC comes up the design for my new mobile truck bed office. 

[Crucial_Infra]

^ Hey an actual real person in one of @KJHburg‘s photos. Congrats!

[nicholas]

2 minutes ago, Crucial_Infra said:

^ Hey an actual real person in one of @KJHburg‘s photos. Congrats!

Where?

[KJHburg]

8 hours ago, nicholas said:

Where?

a guy was sitting in that chair inside the parking hut leaning back so all you see is his legs but someone is in there LOL. 

[CLT704]

So when will the tower go vertical? 

[gman430]

1 hour ago, CLT704 said:

So when will the tower go vertical? 

Tomorrow. 

[j-man]

On 6/25/2019 at 10:17 AM, CLT_sc said:

Based on the construction trailer position and where they are inserting piping into the ground, it looks like this tower will be set back from the sidewalk by about 30 feet.  IF so, that would provide a lot of space for outside dining.  And, would mean an nice large parking deck on College St.  

What does being set back have to do with a nice parking garage? Just asking 

[CLT_sc]

22 minutes ago, j-man said:

What does being set back have to do with a nice parking garage? Just asking 

I was thinking if they set the building back from Tryon and are not digging a large deck underground, it can only mean a large deck on college.