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One Monroe Block - 20 Story Office Tower (300+ feet?) / 16 Story Residential Tower - $100+ Million

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While this project was announced back in November 2016, a groundbreaking date of January 2018 was announced today.

The floor count isn't anything earth shattering, but if the rendering if any sign, the height may be as much as 400 ft (Cadillac Tower is 438 feet).

https://detroit.curbed.com/2016/11/30/13799958/dan-gilbert-downtown-development

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Tony Hawk partners to bring a skate park to the Monroe Blocks downtown

https://detroit.curbed.com/2017/7/20/16002768/tony-hawk-skatepark-downtown-detroit

The Monroe Blocks—bordered by Randolph, Bates, Monroe, and Cadillac Square—will turn into an art installation and skate park called Wayfinding starting August 16. A partnership between skateboarding legend Tony Hawk, artist Ryan McGinness, Quicken Loans, and Bedrock, the park will be a temporary installation on the site until January 2018, when Bedrock plans to break ground on new office towers and residential.

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The rendering has some funky perspective.  It makes it look much taller than the neighboring One Campus Martius, but there is no way a 20-story building would be nearly 400 feet.  That'd be 20-foot floors, which is an extreme even for office floors.  I'm think it's a lot closer to One Campus Martius in height than it is Cadillac Tower.

Anyway, height aside, like the neighboring proposal for the Hudson block, the architecture is stunning.

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1 hour ago, Lmichigan said:

The rendering has some funky perspective.  It makes it look much taller than the neighboring One Campus Martius, but there is no way a 20-story building would be nearly 400 feet.  That'd be 20-foot floors, which is an extreme even for office floors.  I'm think it's a lot closer to One Campus Martius in height than it is Cadillac Tower.

Anyway, height aside, like the neighboring proposal for the Hudson block, the architecture is stunning.

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To be fair, the rendering isn't official, as an architect hasn't been hired (at least as far as we know). It was something they sketched up to garner support for the tax incentive bill. Gilbert may even decide to increase the scope of this project between now and January, given the severe shortage of office space he claims. 

All of that said, even a 300 to 350 ft tower would be fairly impressive from the ground level and is certainly reasonable with a 20-story building (see  222 2nd Avenue or One Nashville Place in Nashville as a comparison). One Campus Martius is shorter by a fairly decent margin at only a little over 200 ft.

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Hamilton Anderson was retained for these.  Yes, they could change, but most of the stuff proposed in Detroit lately has not been dumbed down between proposal and completion.  Not seeing why we need to be particularly skeptical right now.  I was surprised to hear this was still holding to the January 2018 ground-breaking, and I don't doubt much of what Gilbert promises because he delivers.  This isn't the 00's, anymore.

On the height, again, the neighboring One Campus Martius is 15/16 stories and is only 230 feet.  It is completely possible we're looking at something under 300 feet.  I really don't care, though, as long as it's at least as tall as One Campus Martius, and particularly when we're gearing up for a 734-foot tower a block or two away.

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5 minutes ago, Lmichigan said:

Hamilton Anderson was retained for these.  Yes, they could change, but most of the stuff proposed in Detroit lately has not been dumbed down between proposal and completion.  Not seeing why we need to be particularly skeptical right now.  I was surprised to hear this was still holding to the January 2018 ground-breaking, and I don't doubt much of what Gilbert promises because he delivers.  This isn't the 00's, anymore.

I tend to agree. 

If the economy doesn't go into the crapper for a little while longer, I suspect we'll see more high-rise proposals (from others besides Gilbert) coming down the pipeline. The Lafayette Building site would be the next best candidate IMO.

I'm still betting on a high rise hotel or two happening as well, between the boost in tourism with Little Caesars Arena and possibly more big employers from the suburbs relocating downtown.

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23 minutes ago, Lmichigan said:

On the height, again, the neighboring One Campus Martius is 15/16 stories and is only 230 feet.  It is completely possible we're looking at something under 300 feet.  I really don't care, though, as long as it's at least as tall as One Campus Martius, and particularly when we're gearing up for a 734-foot tower a block or two away.

Well that's the point, we're talking about the same guy who's stretching a 52 story building to 734 ft.

Gilbert has proven he likes to do big things, so there's good enough reason to be bullish on this building being fairly tall in height despite the floor count. 

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I really like the design.  Detroit continues to pick up steam.  It would be nice to see someone other then Gilbert, but they will come along.

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