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Fencing up, jackhammers are going on the perimeter. The garage is underway and William will post more soon, including a rendering.

Interested to see how the garage will look compared to 505 CST.  I would expect for the design to be cohesive with the design of the tower.  Hopefully we will get to see the updated renderings of 505 CST soon.  :thumbsup:

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Wow, 24 months to construct according to the article in the Tennessean. That's a long time to build a parking garage, is it not?  If it's true that Tony can't start construction till the garage is done then we're in for a long wait unfortunately. 

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Wow, 24 months to construct according to the article in the Tennessean. That's a long time to build a parking garage, is it not?  If it's true that Tony can't start construction till the garage is done then we're in for a long wait unfortunately. 

 

That is pretty long, even when you take into account excavation (not for sure how much will be here, someone help me out), infrastructure for the garage and then additional infrastructure for anything else (505CST if anything will be shared at the garage). I could see 18 months, but 24 is pretty long. 

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I was thinking a year, maybe a little more. No way would I have ever thought 2 years. I hope that's a mistake in the article cause that's a loooooooong time away...lol

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Pretty smart move by Tony G.  He gets $6.5 Mil for the land...and $12Mil+ in TIF money...and then MDHA builds his garage, which costs $35.5Mil.  So...basically, Tony just saved himself over $50Mil of the $225 Mil cost in building 505 CST.

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Wow, 24 months to construct according to the article in the Tennessean. That's a long time to build a parking garage, is it not?  If it's true that Tony can't start construction till the garage is done then we're in for a long wait unfortunately. 

Wow, I mentioned 2 years at the meet and you guys thought I was crazy!!!!

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That is pretty long, even when you take into account excavation (not for sure how much will be here, someone help me out), infrastructure for the garage and then additional infrastructure for anything else (505CST if anything will be shared at the garage). I could see 18 months, but 24 is pretty long.

I agree 24 months seems like an overly conservative estimate. The City Center garage expansion, which was entirely excavated 5 stories down, took about 10-11 months to complete (although it seemed like 2 yrs). I don't know how much of the 11 floors of the 505 garage will be below ground, but the current parking lot sits above the old Cain Sloan basement which was backfilled with the Cain Sloan demolition debris. That should be a headstart on excavation.

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I agree 24 months seems like an overly conservative estimate. The City Center garage expansion, which was entirely excavated 5 stories down, took about 10-11 months to complete (although it seemed like 2 yrs). I don't know how much of the 11 floors of the 505 garage will be below ground, but the current parking lot sits above the old Cain Sloan basement which was backfilled with the Cain Sloan demolition debris. That should be a headstart on excavation.

 

I went back and checked my pictures of the City Center garage construction.  Excavation started @Oct 2012.  They had finished excavating and had built back up to the street level by Oct 2013.   Took them a bit longer to finish the above ground construction, do landscaping, finish out the lower levels etc.  I seem to recall it opening Dec 13 or Jan 14. So, a bit over a year, but with no above ground decks; five below and one surface.

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I went back and checked my pictures of the City Center garage construction.  Excavation started @Oct 2012.  They had finished excavating and had built back up to the street level by Oct 2013.   Took them a bit longer to finish the above ground construction, do landscaping, finish out the lower levels etc.  I seem to recall it opening Dec 13 or Jan 14. So, a bit over a year, but with no above ground decks; five below and one surface.

 

ok, yeah, the CC garage did seem to take longer than people (we tenants) expected.    part of that, we were told, was that the garage had to be designed to support a second tower.     there may be similar design considerations with the 505 garage to support possible upward expansion and/or tower-related amenities (pool, fitness center, etc).   

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ok, yeah, the CC garage did seem to take longer than people (we tenants) expected.    part of that, we were told, was that the garage had to be designed to support a second tower.     there may be similar design considerations with the 505 garage to support possible upward expansion and/or tower-related amenities (pool, fitness center, etc).   

Yet, there is no second tower! After the announcements for Sobro (UC) , Bridgestone, Westin, Turnberry, Convention Center site, the Eakin Tower, Gulch Crossing(TO) we may never see a tower on this site.

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Yet, there is no second tower! After the announcements for Sobro (UC) , Bridgestone, Westin, Turnberry, Convention Center site, the Eakin Tower, Gulch Crossing(TO) we may never see a tower on this site.

 

Kinda disappointing, but at least there's one hell of a garage there. 

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So the tower, will be built on the right side of the garage if you're facing Church Street

in previous renderings the tower was in front of the garage not to the side

 

I don't think so. I think the garage is to the south of the proposed tower.  The tower would still front the garage.  Note that you can see the corner of McKendree UMC and the Cumberland behind the garage in the drawing.

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Correct.   This is the view along 5th Ave. with the South edge of the property to the left.    The tower would be to the right (north) of the garage in the rendering, fronting Church and 5th.

 

Not bad as garages go.     What is behind the glass on levels 1 and 2?     Retail?   

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It's supposed to be 11 levels of parking. I count 6 above ground.

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Although on a parking garage, the roof counts as a floor, so if the rendering is to be 11 floors (per Tennessean article) then that leaves 4 underground.

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So when 505 CST is eventually built, will it be attached to the garage of just wrap around it? The design of the garage doesn't look anything like the renderings we have seen of 505 CST.

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