505 CST - 545 feet - 45 Floors

[Hey_Hey]

So...are my assumptions correct that Metro is basically building a $40 Mil plus parking garage (garage + land price) for 500 parking spaces (the other 400 going to Tony)?

Not sure if that's a good price or not...but seems pretty steep.

I think you have to also include the 400 spaces for the residents as they will be revenue producing. The article mentions that giarratana is leasing those 400 spaces, and it could very well be that those 400 spaces provided the guaranteed revenue to get the entire project financed. Also, from a revenue standpoint you must also include the ground level retail which will be revenue producing. Edited November 26, 2014 by Hey_Hey

[BnaBreaker]

Hmmm, where have I seen that design before?  Oh!  That's right.  Freaking everywhere.  Is this a joke?  Another blue glass box?  Really??!!!

 

It's a real punch to the gut to look at Sheet Music and 505 CST in their original iterations and think about what absolute masterpieces we COULD have had on the skyline, but instead we end up with clones of varying heights of some non-descript Dallas skyscraper from 1987.  Am I happy we're getting some tall buildings?  Yeah, but man...what a missed opportunity.  I understand there are cost concerns but surely it wouldn't cost THAT much more to put some type of feature on top at the very least.

Edited November 26, 2014 by BnaBreaker

[fieldmarshaldj]

^Ward, you're being a little hard on the NuSig, aren't ya ?

[smeagolsfree]

Just looking at the renderings and I thiNk what is being done, is taking the mixed use version of 505,taking off the side portions where the hotel would go and turning the tower 90 degrees. I suspect you will see the same materials. If you look at the south facing portion of the B&W version, you will see it seems to be curved like the east facing portion of the mixed use tower and flat on the north like the west facing version of the top of the mixed use tower.

I am optimistic the tower will look just fine.

[timmay143]

just imagine, it will do to the skyline what L&C did.

 

for reference

 

landc alone by willfry, on Flickr

 

 I don't think it will be that much difference, of course it is hard to tell with renderings.  Now the 1000 ft Siggy would have made an impact closer to that!     

 

Just looking at the renderings and I thiNk what is being done, is taking the mixed use version of 505,taking off the side portions where the hotel would go and turning the tower 90 degrees. I suspect you will see the same materials. If you look at the south facing portion of the B&W version, you will see it seems to be curved like the east facing portion of the mixed use tower and flat on the north like the west facing version of the top of the mixed use tower.

I am optimistic the tower will look just fine.

 

I think you are right about the design, Ron.  It will be a great addition.  However, the "original" Siggy design (750 to 1000 ft) would be perfect!  Hotel, apartments, and condos are HOT right now!

[chris holman]

The new Rendering looks taller than 750ft, hard to tell but looks taller , was the last rendering 750ft, because it looked shorter

[timmay143]

New on the left, old on the right.  Although, after re-researching, the one on the right was the mixed use with office space. 

 

Edited November 28, 2014 by timmay143

[L'burgnative]

^ The old rendering I'm counting 60 stories; the new I'm counting 65, so we may have a taller 505CST now.

[titanhog]

I'm probably mistaken, but it almost looks like the portion of the building facing south is rounded, as if the portion facing Church St is flat and the other side is bent out in a slight "bowl" shape.  I know it's probably just an illusion with the photo, but would be interesting if it were to have a bowed-out side, making it not exactly a tall, rectangular box.

 

To picture what I'm saying, if you were looking down on the building from directly above, it would be slightly shaped like a capital letter "D"

Edited November 28, 2014 by titanhog

[smeagolsfree]

I'm probably mistaken, but it almost looks like the portion of the building facing south is rounded, as if the portion facing Church St is flat and the other side is bent out in a slight "bowl" shape.  I know it's probably just an illusion with the photo, but would be interesting if it were to have a bowed-out side, making it not exactly a tall, rectangular box.

 

To picture what I'm saying, if you were looking down on the building from directly above, it would be slightly shaped like a capital letter "D"

That was my point. The building was turned 90 degrees and the rounded portion faces south. We should know more very soon.

[AUNash]

They are excavating below grade right up to church street. I suppose this means the below grade parking floors will extend underneath the tower?

[MidTenn1]

Rotated photo for you. Hope you are in a place where you can update this site with construction photos. (Suntrust Building?)

 

 

This should be some quick and easy excavation as it was the site of the old Cain-Sloan Department Store and had a deep basement. Excavation is a matter of removing all the soft fill that was put in the hole and hopefully, limited blasting will be required.

[Hey_Hey]

They are excavating below grade right up to church street. I suppose this means the below grade parking floors will extend underneath the tower?

Or maybe it's cheaper to excavate for 505 at the same time excavation is going on for the parking garage. Maybe TG's paying for some of the work going on now. Is this confirmation that 505CST will start imminently?

[arkitekte]

Or maybe it's cheaper to excavate for 505 at the same time excavation is going on for the parking garage. Maybe TG's paying for some of the work going on now. Is this confirmation that 505CST will start imminently?

 

If that entire block or most of it was back filled then more than likely this is all just for the garage. It could possibly be for both, but more than likely due to the back fill they'll need to go lateral toward bedrock for an anchor point of some sort. If you start throwing crazy loads on one side of that lot and a lateral force goes to the back fill under where the new tower is that would cause some trouble and someone's Mercedes would be hanging out below ground. Just my guess though.

Edited November 28, 2014 by arkitekte

[AUNash]

Rotated photo for you. Hope you are in a place where you can update this site with construction photos. (Suntrust .

Yeah I'm in SunTrust. My window looks right out on this lot, so I'm looking forward to watching this project get out of the ground. Will definitely post pics as interesting things happen.

[TNinVB]

Does anyone think that we might see the tower rise sooner than later?

[smeagolsfree]

Does anyone think that we might see the tower rise sooner than later?

Could be 2015. We are hopeful.

[TNinVB]

Could be 2015. We are hopeful.

I know it's always a money issue, but it just seems like it would make more sense to build everything all at once.  We can hope :-) 

[titanhog]

I just wonder if Tony will need to pre-sale a few condos to get the bank financing?

[smeagolsfree]

I just wonder if Tony will need to pre-sale a few condos to get the bank financing?

That is sort of what I am thinking. I will bet he already has some buyers lined up for some of the condos too. He has a lot of contacts because of Siggy.

He also treated people right and gave earnest money and deposits back when it didn't get built.

[Paramount747]

According to his video he did with the David Lipscomb business school, he gave earnest money back.

Edited December 6, 2014 by Urban Architecture

[mirydi]

Tony didn't have any pre sales for the SoBro, did he? 

[dmillsphoto]

Tony didn't have any pre sales for the SoBro, did he? 

 

SoBro is apartments.

[mirydi]

SoBro is apartments.

Oh yeah...der. Nevermind. 

[Nashville Cliff]

I did notice that they are excavating the entire lot, which seems odd since the MDHA garage is just on the southern portion.  Just saying.