505 CST - 545 feet - 45 Floors

[Skyscrapergeek]

Now up to the 41st ceiling/42nd floor.  Glass is up to the 28th ceiling/29th floor.    

[titanhog]

^^So the way that diagram shows, it really will only be 524'...even with the mechanical wall on top...instead of 545'.

[Skyscrapergeek]

Correct.  At least it looks taller.  According to google earth, the ground elevation of 505 is approximately 40' higher than batman which should make 505 appear to be 564' in comparison. Visually this seems accurate as when complete, 505 will reach about half way up the spires on batman.  Then again, what does height matter anyway. 

[titanhog]

1 hour ago, Skyscrapergeek said:

  Then again, what does height matter anyway. 

Height matters. 

[fieldmarshaldj]

17 minutes ago, titanhog said:

Height matters. 

Girth, too.

*cough*

[AUNash]

[claya91]

On 4/5/2017 at 1:05 PM, claya91 said:

The core was at 44 before being raised this morning. It is now topped out.

Welp, I stand corrected. The core was raised yet again this morning.

[VSRJ]

I know it's all about perspective, but it's still amazing to see how 505 dominates the skyline from some angles.

[Nashtitans]

^That gray building (i think its called the cumberland) is so ugly. Looks like something out of Soviet russia. ruins the whole pic

[wmaddbb2018]

8 minutes ago, Nashtitans said:

^That gray building (i think its called the cumberland) is so ugly. Looks like something out of Soviet russia. ruins the whole pic

Another Tony G project.

Edited April 11, 2017 by wreynol4

[MLBrumby]

You ought to see what he demolished to build that blight...on second thought, you shouldn't.

[Nashtitans]

55 minutes ago, MLBrumby said:

You ought to see what he demolished to build that blight...on second thought, you shouldn't.

Well you mentioned it, what was it ?

[BnaBreaker]

29 minutes ago, Nashtitans said:

Well you mentioned it, what was it ?

[titanhog]

9 minutes ago, BnaBreaker said:

I'm gonna be sick.  Pull over! 

[wmaddbb2018]

Pullover! No, it's a cardigan but thanks for noticing!

[nashvylle]

it seems like Tony could have renovated that building into residential instead of demolishing and starting from scratch. 

[Nashtitans]

What a joke. A great building razed down for...that.

[arkitekte]

54 minutes ago, nashvylle said:

it seems like Tony could have renovated that building into residential instead of demolishing and starting from scratch. 

He most definitely could have, in theory; however, his pockets probably weren't deep enough to return the profit that he wanted. 

Overall, that's extremely sickening. Pure Art Deco exchanged for the Cumberland. I mean, damn, I bet everything including the sign was sent right to the dump. Most developers at least say "We fully plan to save the sign" as if that's something worth doing after demolishing the building itself.

I'm appreciative of Tony G and his vision for Nashville, including all that he's done and will do in the future, but that's simply irresponsible, IMO. 

Edited April 11, 2017 by arkitekte

[titanhog]

1 hour ago, wreynol4 said:

Pullover! No, it's a cardigan but thanks for noticing!

[markhollin]

Corner Pub to open a 6,000 sq. ft. restaurant/bar as one of the street level tenants facing 5th Ave. North in the MDHA parking garage attached to 505 CST:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/real-estate/2017/04/13/restaurantbar-corner-pub-coming-downtown-nashville-garage-space/100416278/

[fxvol]

On 4/11/2017 at 6:53 PM, arkitekte said:

He most definitely could have, in theory; however, his pockets probably weren't deep enough to return the profit that he wanted. 

Overall, that's extremely sickening. Pure Art Deco exchanged for the Cumberland. I mean, damn, I bet everything including the sign was sent right to the dump. Most developers at least say "We fully plan to save the sign" as if that's something worth doing after demolishing the building itself.

I'm appreciative of Tony G and his vision for Nashville, including all that he's done and will do in the future, but that's simply irresponsible, IMO. 

In fairness to Tony, who has been very nice every time I have dealt with him, I found the story in the United Press International Archives from 1998.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Preservationists are making an 11th-hour attempt to save the historic Tennessee Theater and Sudekum office building from demolition in downtown Nashville.

Workers are dismantling the 12-story, Art Deco building and ajoining movie theater over the next 10 months to make room for a 17-story, $42 million office building.

Nashville developer Tony Giarratana's move to tear down the building, which is on the National Register of Historic Places, has preservationists scrambling for last-ditch alternatives.

They claim that the 56-year-old building is historically and aesthetically valuable and a marked change from the Nashville skyline that is dominated by modern high-rise office buildings.

Steve Neighbors, executive director of Historic Nashville, Inc., said his group will keep trying to find a developer who would rather renovate the building than raze it.

'We're going to stay on the same track hoping, at the 11th hour, we can find somebody to buy it,' Neighbors said.'There's not much hope, but we're going to keep trying.

'Preservation has to do with cultural identity. These buildings are the last vestiges of our past, and how we handle them now has a lot to say about what our future will be like. You need a balance of old and new.'

The Sudekum building was designed by the local architectural firm of Marr and Holman and completed in 1931. It is owned by the General Electric Capital Corp. The International and Independent Order of Odd Fellows owns the land and the ajoining theater building.

Giarratana is part of an investment group that is financing the demolition and new construction. He declined to identify other investors, but defended the move to tear down the building.

'If the building could have been salvaged, I would have been there to do it,' he said. 'The effort has been exhausted.'

He said he had told preservationists in April that he was willing to step aside if a developer interested in renovating the building came forward.

'Countless developers from all over the South were brought in and they all determined that renovation was not feasible,' he said. 'What we're proposing is in the best interest of Nashville. This development will prove to be a catalyst to the Church Street corridor of Nashville.'

Neighbors agreed that the condition of the building has deteriorated. 'There's no doubt about it,' he said. 'The building has been neglected in the last few years.'

He also conceded that convincing a developer to renovate the building would be difficult because of the extensive deterioration and changes in tax incentives since 1986.

'A developer can get more money leasing a new building than leasing an old building, no matter how well it's renovated,' he said.

Demolition began Dec. 10 and Giarratana said it will take about 10 months to tear down the building because of its proximity to the McKendree United Methodist Church and because the building and the theater are lined with asbestos.

He said the building would be dismantled mechanically rather than blasted with explosives.

'We've had several experts in implosion look at the building. They all gave us bids but they all said there's better than a 50 percent chance the church would be lost or severely damaged,' he said. 'So instead of 60 seconds, it'll take us 10 months.'

Giarratana said the Sudekum Building has been at about 15 percent occupancy for the past few years while the Tennessee Theater, which was added to the building in the early 1950s, has been empty for more than a dozen years.

Ann Reynolds, director of the Metropolitan Historical Commission, said the Sudekum building and Tennessee Theater should be the focal point of a downtown revitalization.

Reynolds called the building 'a piece of art' and said the theater could be used as a gallery or an auditorium for concerts and community activities.

'The building that Mr. Giarratana is putting up is a handsome building, but it's an 8-to-5 building. It's the kind of building you'd see in Austin, Texas, or Atlanta,' she said. 'I don't think that a downtown lives by office buildings alone.'

Reynolds did say that Giarratana has acted in good faith with preservationists, considering his financial investment and time contraints. 'He's no villian,' she said.

But she said as long as the building is standing, preservationists will seek an alternative to its destruction.

'The real challange is to find a use for the building,' she said. 'We can't just say it needs to be there because it's an important building.'

[smeagolsfree]

The key with all of the older building that have been lost is this, and that is the fact that Historical did not get involved sooner to protect the building in the first place from neglect and deterioration. How many times have we seen this happen. All of the sudden when the building is about to come down, the Historic preservationist get involved, where they should have been involved years earlier.

 

The reason we are losing these gems is the fault of the Historic Commission  and their lack of leadership and foresight.

[titanhog]

I just think it's funny that the Reynolds guy said that what Tony was going to put up in its place was a "handsome building"...which couldn't be further from the truth.  That building is one of the ugliest in the city.  Too bad Tony couldn't have at least swapped that great structure with something a little more appealing to the eye.  At least his building next to the L&C is nice to look at.

[fieldmarshaldj]

18 minutes ago, titanhog said:

I just think it's funny that the Reynolds guy said that what Tony was going to put up in its place was a "handsome building"...which couldn't be further from the truth.  That building is one of the ugliest in the city.  Too bad Tony couldn't have at least swapped that great structure with something a little more appealing to the eye.  At least his building next to the L&C is nice to look at.

The Cumberland seemed decent enough in the renderings, but after it went up... meh. The loss of the Sudekum and the Tennessee Theater (the last downtown theater) was a terrible blow in hindsight. Both should've been properly restored.

[MLBrumby]

I'm sure Giarratana is a nice and decent guy. But don't give him any credit he doesn't deserve. Even in 1998, the adaptive reuse trend was well underway. He is a developer after all, and demolishing the Sudekum bldg. Was the surest and quickest way to make a buck.