Inner Loop - CBD, Downtown, East Bank, Germantown, Gulch, Rutledge

[markhollin]

Broadstone Stockyards Flats (4 & 5 stories, 310 units, ground floor retail, internal garage) update.  Up to 2nd and 4th levels on southern end surrounding the garage.  Brickwork underway on the NW quadrant.

Looking SW from intersection of 3rd Ave. North and Stockyard St:

 

[markhollin]

Sound Retail Building (2 stories, 60,000 sq. ft.) update.  

Looking SW from intersection of Jackson St. and 3rd Ave. North:

 

Looking NW from 3rd Ave. North, 1/2 block south of Jackson St:

Looking NW from 3rd Ave. North, 1/2 block north of Stockyard St:

[markhollin]

The Blue Parrot (3 stories) update.  Work being done on site.  Looks like sewer lines.

Looking east from 4th Ave. South at intersection with Molloy St:
 

[nashvylle]

Still nothing on the Sounds stadium apartments @smeagolsfree @markhollin? 

[markhollin]

1101 McGavock addition (1 story) nearing completion.

Looking NW 1/2 block south of intersection of 11th Ave. North and  McGavock St:

Looking NE from intersection of 12th Ave. North and Demonbruen:

[markhollin]

A couple of projects from MetroCenter.

Bulls Eye Center at 2030 Rosa Parks Blvd (several 1 story structures) update.  Framing up.

Looking west from Fairfield Inn parking lot near interchange of French Landing Dr. and Dominican Drive:

Looking north from Fairfield Inn parking lot near interchange of French Landing Dr. and Dominican Drive:

Cumberland Behavioral Health Hospital (2 stories, 76 beds) update: Foundational dig underway.

Looking NW from Great Circle Drive,  1/2 bock north of Vantage Way:

Looking south from Great Circle Rd., 1/2 block east of Athens Way:

[FromParkAveToTN]

On 9/3/2019 at 8:56 AM, Ingram said:

The Gulch and SoBro crowd can pay for the bridge themselves. They simply need to cut back on the millions they spend on craft beer, smoothies, and gourmet coffee.

I voted for Cooper for this reason.  Our tax dollars should stay in our own communities and not used for downtown projects. 

[Nash_12South]

14 hours ago, FromParkAveToTN said:

I voted for Cooper for this reason.  Our tax dollars should stay in our own communities and not used for downtown projects. 

So each neighborhood should pay its own way? If we go in that direction, many of Nashville’s poorer communities (neighborhoods) wouldn’t have the revenue to do very much. Neighborhoods generating the most in property taxes (the more affluent ones) would get the better schools, new sidewalks, streetlights etc. Downtown generates (through tourism and jobs) a whole lot of the tax dollars that drive the rest of the county. 

[markhollin]

The Preserve at Highland (260 units on 17 acres) update.  Foundational walls starting on some sections.

Looking west from Dickerson Rd. at intersection with Old Due West Ave:
 

[markhollin]

Another site at Metro Center has sold, this one at 200 Cumberland Bend, for $8.5 million. The 3.7 acre plot includes a large warehouse for Metro Medical Supply distribution.  200 Cumberland LLC has bought it from the supply company.  No word on intentions yet, although another residential development is rumored for the site just to the west in between 200 Cumberland Bend and The Duke, so this could be yet another that would have views of the river.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/commercial-real-estate/article/21086879/metrocenter-site-sells-for-85m
 

[DeemonBruhn]

I voted for Cooper for this reason.  Our tax dollars should stay in our own communities and not used for downtown projects. 

That is not what is happening at all. I hope you don’t actually believe this.

70%+ of all the revenue is created in the commercial corridor from the riverfront out West End.

[AronG]

That's the funniest thing about the whole Cooper/neighborhood schtick. People really do somehow believe that the downtown area, the economic engine of the region, with tens of thousands of expensive residences and hundreds of thousands of high-end jobs, is mooching off of the areas of the county with like 2 houses per acre. Brilliant. It would be wonderful if an adult could explain to them that metro has to spend way more to support them than they generate; that a city block downtown generates more property tax than an exurb subdivision,  with a fraction of the road/power/water/infrastructure and much easier connection to existing grids and municipal services, etc.

People love it though. It jives perfectly with anti-new-Nashville-ism, and got him elected in a landslide, so you have to hand it to him. The funniest part of all is going to be watching him work to maintain this fiction over the next few years.

[bnacincy]

46 minutes ago, AronG said:

That's the funniest thing about the whole Cooper/neighborhood schtick. People really do somehow believe that the downtown area, the economic engine of the region, with tens of thousands of expensive residences and hundreds of thousands of high-end jobs, is mooching off of the areas of the county with like 2 houses per acre. Brilliant. It would be wonderful if an adult could explain to them that metro has to spend way more to support them than they generate; that a city block downtown generates more property tax than an exurb subdivision,  with a fraction of the road/power/water/infrastructure and much easier connection to existing grids and municipal services, etc.

People love it though. It jives perfectly with anti-new-Nashville-ism, and got him elected in a landslide, so you have to hand it to him. The funniest part of all is going to be watching him work to maintain this fiction over the next few years.

Been watching this from the tristate.....did not Briley mention any of this during the campaign? That if what is happening in downtown wasn't happening then the future of Nashville could be seen by making a trip up to the Rust Belt?

Middle Tennesseans need to be on their knees in gratitude for what's happening there-I know some of them have recently arrived from up here so they should know what the alternative is.

[MLBrumby]

Don't disagree with the points made above but Briley was not the mayor to lead Nashville forward. He's actually a very weak person... not a leader. And his mismanagement of the campaign in its last month should make every Nashvillian glad he was not reelected. I don't think Cooper is much better, but that is the state of the political situation in cities in America today. 

I found this report amusing because I know two of the 'elites' named in the report did in fact support Cooper.  One is a developer who also sits on the Metro Parks board who did NOT want Giarratana to get the Church Street park for his new residential tower. 

https://tennesseestar.com/2019/08/09/nashville-elite-reportedly-working-hard-to-get-nashville-mayor-david-briley-re-elected/

[smeagolsfree]

Both of these guys are sort of full of it IMO. Briley really screwed up with the budget and that same budget is still messed up and he left that for Cooper to figure out. As for Cooper, we will see if he can balance the budget and do all he wants to do without raising taxes. My guess is 90% no, 10% yes. 

Give the teachers a raise and straighten Metro School out. Best thing that can happen is for the state to come in and take the school system over and fire the school board for a few years. That is the biggest bunch of backstabbing, ruthless, self serving people on the planet. No wonder board members resign, and they cant make a good Metro School Super hire as too many on the board want to make sure it is a minority candidate instead of the best possible person for the job. If that ends up being a minority candidate, then great, but dont hire a minority just for the sake of hiring a minority. We see where Pedro and Shawn got us. 

Fully fund the MPD and MFD plus all the new hires they need.

Straighten out Metro General Hospital, that will probably never happen as it is a money incinerator.

Plus, attempt to take money from the downtown entertainment zone funding the MCC. There may be a little something he can do, but a lot of those funds are tied up because of the way it was done because of State Law.

 

[markhollin]

Muse will be the name of the 5 story, 60 unit apartment building with ground floor retail  at 4 Berrien St. on Rutledge Hill (actually at 65 Lindsley Ave, at SW corner of Hermitage Ave.). It appears that some of the units may be short term rentals  since a check-in desk is shown on one diagram. Local developer Matt Laitinen is listed as one of the developers. Centric Architecture, Catalyst Design Group, and Cherry & Associates are listed in the design realm. No word on cost or timeline.

One unfortunate element is that a late 1800's era structure that has been added-onto a few times is going to be torn down for this to be built. Perhaps the MDHA board will raise some hard questions and determinations about this when the designers meet with them this morning. It would seem that part of this old structure could be incorporated into this if it were all tastefully done in brick. 

More at the Nashville Post here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21087168/mixeduse-building-eyed-for-rutledge-hill

And behind the NBJ paywall here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/09/17/new-mid-rise-pitches-skyline-views-from-a-corner.html?iana=hpmvp_nsh_news_headline#i/11449226
 

This screen shot from Smeagolfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in teal at the center of the frame:

[PaulChinetti]

That kinda sucks, I love the front of that building, I wish that could have been incorporated somehow into the new development. 

Could have at least used red brick in the new building.

[Bos2Nash]

The existing brick building (and property) are considered "Worthy of Conservation" by Metro, so the developers will definitely have to answer some questions about the demolition. I would hope the they integrate some concepts of the existing building into the new design, but with its location and condition of the building it may be hard to actually retain the complete building in its original state.

[Nashville Cliff]

38 minutes ago, Bos2Nash said:

The existing brick building (and property) are considered "Worthy of Conservation" by Metro, so the developers will definitely have to answer some questions about the demolition.

Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Metro to ever stand up to a developer over a historic structure. We as a city just don't seem to give a damn about history when there are dollars to be chased and developers to appease.

1 minute ago, Nashville Cliff said:

Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Metro to ever stand up to a developer over a historic structure. We as a city just don't seem to give a damn about history when there are dollars to be chased and developers to appease.

And, I'd add the proposed hotel looks like just about every other apartment/small hotel being built in every other midsize and larger city.

[Baronakim]

Sorry Mark & Paul, I strongly disagree about incorporation of the old structure into the new design.  The Victorian era is long past and the neighborhood on Lindsey has deteriorated architecturally into a hodgepodge.  IMO the only structure worth preserving is the church at Second Avenue, the exterior of which has been beautifully restored recently.   Most of the remaining area on the crest of Rutledge Hill is a treasure to be respected and preserved, but dissociated small buildings like this one are not particularly good candidates for enshrinement.  Like I stated about the Rudy House at 19th & Broadway, structure out of the context of the original neighborhood character of little historical value would not be high on my list to save.  This contrasts considerably with the vandalism of the homes lost for the Virgin Hotel, nice as it is for the height junkies among us.  This structure, while representative of the vanished elegant homes that once surrounded it, is a sad fragment with a crapfest of an addition grafted onto it.  This area of Rutledge Hill has been severed from the rest of the historic neighborhood by the Metro parking and offices that ate up so much of the neighborhood that existed there.  I don't recall exactly what Metro demolished but it very definitely isolated what remained on Lindsey from the rest of Rutledge Hill.  I can't even imagine what Victorian excellence was lost back in the 50s & 60s with the construction of the interstate and the public housing.   The proposed Muse development IMO is not particularly excellent in design, but it beats the Haven project in the Gulch by a mile.   I am also not much of a fan of the Rolling Mill Hill apartment complexes or the 9 story offices at Peabody (who on this forum likes IT other than it is "infill"?  At any rate, it is now part of our growing urban fabric and affords a lively streetscape  ( irrelevant to my opinion of its lack of elegance).   As to the Muse, don't forget that this site was just across the street from a fuel tank farm and a giant homeless encampment in the 90's and close to the industrial parks just on the other side of the interstate.  Don't cherry pick to justify preservation or mourn such small losses.  The apartments in danger of demolition over at Elliston  Place, THAT is a fight worth entering!

[PillowTalk4]

It would nice if they could keep the original portion of the structure that fronts the unnamed street and only demolish the part that is along Lindsley Ave.

Also, it seems to me that the rendering featuring views of the skyline from the deck is misleading.  I can't see how they would have those views even in a 5 story building.  Maybe I'm wrong.  But considering that the property is sitting on the low end of an incline  the views of the skyline would easily be blocked by development in Rolling Mills Hill.  I'm not even sure they would see the top of the buildings in SoBro if the view up Hermitage doesn't stay unobstructed.

[NashWellington11]

On 9/16/2019 at 5:44 AM, Nash_12South said:

So each neighborhood should pay its own way? If we go in that direction, many of Nashville’s poorer communities (neighborhoods) wouldn’t have the revenue to do very much. Neighborhoods generating the most in property taxes (the more affluent ones) would get the better schools, new sidewalks, streetlights etc. Downtown generates (through tourism and jobs) a whole lot of the tax dollars that drive the rest of the county. 

THIS. You want to see how well Donelson or Mt. Juliet can do on their own with ONLY their precious tax dollars? I really wish we could let you try that experiment. There seems to be no basic understanding of how the high income earners and high GDP areas like downtown are subsidizing these outer-lying areas and not the other way around. Most of the downtown dwelling millennial set with those high income jobs don't have kids yet and many of them don't even have cars. So they are not even using the schools and roads that their disproportionate share of the local tax dollars are going toward paying for.

And it is funny (sad really) to me that the areas primarily benefiting from this literal wealth redistribution cry "socialism" every time someone else gets something nicer than them or their taxes go up. On a national level just look at the top states RECEIVING federal funding vs. contributing here and then compare that to which states are fiscally conservative and quick to call everything socialist. If you want to be isolationist and see how far your narrow minded conservative tax policy gets you, then don't expect the rest of us to subsidize your bills and bail you out.

[donNdonelson2]

The airport is in Donelson. Try to keep the economic engine running without that, eh?

 

[ruraljuror]

34 minutes ago, NashWellington11 said:

THIS. You want to see how well Donelson or Mt. Juliet can do on their own with ONLY their precious tax dollars? I really wish we could let you try that experiment. There seems to be no basic understanding of how the high income earners and high GDP areas like downtown are subsidizing these outer-lying areas and not the other way around. Most of the downtown dwelling millennial set with those high income jobs don't have kids yet and many of them don't even have cars. So they are not even using the schools and roads that their disproportionate share of the local tax dollars are going toward paying for.

And it is funny (sad really) to me that the areas primarily benefiting from this literal wealth redistribution cry "socialism" every time someone else gets something nicer than them or their taxes go up. On a national level just look at the top states RECEIVING federal funding vs. contributing here and then compare that to which states are fiscally conservative and quick to call everything socialist. If you want to be isolationist and see how far your narrow minded conservative tax policy gets you, then don't expect the rest of us to subsidize your bills and bail you out.

It's similar to how those most vocally opposed to government regulation suddenly want the government to step in and make a bunch of rules to manage the scooter rentals or think the government should be responsible for permanently protecting some run-down buildings on the fair grounds.  I mean, sure, regulating scooters and expo center preservation are fine ideas to some degree, but it blows my mind that there are people who can recognize the value of regulation for such trivial issues and then turn around and vote to deregulate industries where the stakes are so much higher - like storage of toxic chemical byproducts, or access to public water supplies for bottling companies, or the means by which politicians' campaigns are financed and whether the public has a right to know.  

Everyone recognizes the value of government when it's an issue that they have a personal stake in or where they see a specific problem that government is best positioned to address, but for some reason a lot of people can't seem to recognize that there are some pretty important issues for government to deal with outside of their own pet problems.  It's a genuine human tragedy.

Edited September 17, 2019 by ruraljuror

[PaulChinetti]

49 minutes ago, donNdonelson2 said:

The airport is in Donelson. Try to keep the economic engine running without that, eh?

The airport has been pouring money back into itself and it has offered money to get a rail line to downtown I believe. Downtown definitely needs it and it definitely needs downtown.