Inner Loop - CBD, Downtown, East Bank, Germantown, Gulch, Rutledge

[Bos2Nash]

5 minutes ago, natethegreat said:

Apologies, I was looking at the first picture in that article which appears to be a different project. This one looks pretty solid.

Gotcha. I believe that is the residential project out in Bellevue that will be situated behind the Home Depot (across the river too) just off I-40

[markhollin]

Heaven's Door Boutique Hotel (size and amount of rooms still unknown) update: structures on site razed via a $75,000 demo permit for Mathews Company.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/permit-patrol-23-august-2021/article_83d0b05e-01e9-11ec-94a2-df7c7cbd4970.html


Looking west from 4th Ave. South, just north of Elm St:

[markhollin]

Traffic signals at entrance to Asurion HQ off of Church Street Viaduct are installed.
 

[Baronakim]

I think these four are some of the best old views I have found in quite a while, taken again by Paul Helms in about 2000.  The first show the river sans the Gateway Bridge  Good view of the crown of R2D2 too.  Look at the vast undeveloped area on the south side of Broadway.   The second shows The Red Grooms carousel pavilion before the train station and 2nd Avenue without all the rooftop bars.   Note the missing section of the Shelby bridge by the Barge Company tower.   The Gateway bridge had not even started either.  The third shows the newly built Titans stadium.  The fourth looks down Church  Street  to the west with only the Cumberland Apartments newly built.  Gods, how much  THAT view has changed in 20 years!

 

 

 

 

Edited August 23, 2021 by Baronakim

[MLBrumby]

Part of me gets sad when I see pics of downtown from back then... because I think, "Why didn't I buy some of that property?"  

[smeagolsfree]

All of me knows why I didn’t. No money. I knew where to buy, as a matter of fact someone I knew asked me where to buy about 10 years ago for a good investment and I told them anywhere in SoBro or Between West End & Charlotte closer to the interstate and he didn’t take my advice. The first area has already taken off and the second area is about to explode. The folks that bought on Dickerson and sold early are now very sorry they did. Land prices have not hit the premium yet.

He thought I was a nut case. I told him you will be sorry. I have never had the money to invest, but I sure knew where t go in this town after watching and learning on this board for a few years. At the time 2010 was the perfect time to buy. Some folks were afraid and deciding to dump property. Big mistake!

[Mr_Bond]

9 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

All of me knows why I didn’t. No money. I knew where to buy, as a matter of fact someone I knew asked me where to buy about 10 years ago for a good investment and I told them anywhere in SoBro or Between West End & Charlotte closer to the interstate and he didn’t take my advice. The first area has already taken off and the second area is about to explode. The folks that bought on Dickerson and sold early are now very sorry they did. Land prices have not hit the premium yet.

He thought I was a nut case. I told him you will be sorry. I have never had the money to invest, but I sure knew where t go in this town after watching and learning on this board for a few years. At the time 2010 was the perfect time to buy. Some folks were afraid and deciding to dump property. Big mistake!

In 2010 one of my investment clients, who was worth $5M to $10M, asked me why I bought a condo in The Gulch.  I told him why and I told him the best thing he could do with his extra cash was to buy the office building he was renting downtown.  He had lots of extra cash because he was still nervous about the Great Recession / Global Financial Crisis.  His landlord had asked him if he wanted to buy the building.  He would probably be up 10X today.

[markhollin]

Tailor Nashville will be opening a new permanent location in the recently finished 620 Taylor structure in Germantown.  the 2,000 sq. ft. restaurant will feature a South Asian American menu. Pfeffer Torode is the architect, and opening is expected by early 2022.

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2021/08/20/vivek-surti-tailor-restaurant-relocation-taylor-st.html

[markhollin]

Capitol Hotel expansion (5 stories, 29 rooms) update: new staircase/elevator shaft rising.

Looking east from Polk Ave., 1/4 block south of Union St:

[donNdonelson2]

1 hour ago, markhollin said:

Capitol Hotel expansion (5 stories, 29 rooms) update: new staircase/elevator shaft rising.

Looking east from Polk Ave., 1/4 block south of Union St:

I really wish they had demolished the entire building and replaced with a new design. That thing will always look like a 1960s motel with a thick layer of stage makeup and a bad wig!

[markhollin]

Nashville leaders say downtown has enough pedal vehicles, and ask for new permits to be denied (32 new ones are being requested).

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/davidson/2021/08/25/downtown-nashville-new-permits-pedal-vehicles-could-be-denied/5584868001/

[andywildman]

2 hours ago, markhollin said:

Nashville leaders say downtown has enough pedal vehicles, and ask for new permits to be denied (32 new ones are being requested).

More at The Tennessean here:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/davidson/2021/08/25/downtown-nashville-new-permits-pedal-vehicles-could-be-denied/5584868001/

This shouldn't be a permanent stance. Until the state lets us restrict buses, tractors, and rolling hot tubs, I don't mind limiting numbers. But once we can get those off the road, I  support getting more tourists back on good ol' fashioned pedal taverns!

[Nashvillain]

On 8/24/2021 at 9:24 AM, donNdonelson2 said:

I really wish they had demolished the entire building and replaced with a new design. That thing will always look like a 1960s motel with a thick layer of stage makeup and a bad wig!

I couldn't imagine a more Nashville building. Also, it's much better for the environment to reuse existing buildings than it is to demolish and build anew. 

[smeagolsfree]

54 minutes ago, andywildman said:

This shouldn't be a permanent stance. Until the state lets us restrict buses, tractors, and rolling hot tubs, I don't mind limiting numbers. But once we can get those off the road, I  support getting more tourists back on good ol' fashioned pedal taverns!

I tend to disagree with that. We can’t let the streets be clogged with slow moving vehicles regardless of size. There has to be a limit on numbers and the locations of where these vehicles can operate and Metro needs to be able to be exempt from State regulations regarding these types of vehicles due to safety concerns. Number one issue is that most of these trasnportainment operations tend to involve alcohol and when that is the case, the driver of such vehicle really has no control of what the people on board that vehicle does when they get out of hand. One person can cause a lot of issues. They should also be banned from 4 to 6pm during the afternoon rush! That goes for all of the gaudy rolling trash on wheels.

There is no reason they need to be going down West End, Charlotte Ave, or for that matter any area outside the entertainment district’s. It’s. Party on wheels, nothing more, nothing less! No need to go into a residential area like Germantown or East Nashville and I am not saying they are, but they will want to start pushing the envelope.

Whn these vehicle are so slow moving people get aggravated and pass them in an unsafe manner and I am surprised a pedestrian has not been hit and killed because of this. It’s a matter of time. 

I think it would be interesting to see how other cities regulated the numbers and routes as they are in other places, but not in the numbers they are Nashville.

[markhollin]

Thursday night The Metro Nashville Transportation Licensing Commission denied 27 permit applications for “transportainment” vehicles after city officials spoke out against dangerous conditions in downtown Nashville. 

A petition organized by Safe Fun Nashville has amassed more than 2,000 signatures advocating for Metro Nashville officials to increase safety standards, and organizers plan to continue advocating for regulation from state officials. “This is a first step. Party vehicles are posing a serious threat to the safety and tourist economy in our city,” said Jim Schmitz, a downtown resident and co-organizer of Safe Fun Nashville.

More at Tennessee Lookout here:

https://tennesseelookout.com/briefs/nashville-transportation-board-shoots-down-new-party-bus-permits/


And at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2021/08/27/transportation-commission-denies-more-pedal-vehicl.html?cx_testId=40&cx_testVariant=cx_34&cx_artPos=1#cxrecs_s

[markhollin]

[Bos2Nash]

39 minutes ago, markhollin said:

Based on this tweet I say Gresham Smith is the designer of the new viaduct. Has anyone seen any prelim plans (because they prolly wont do a rendering) of what the bridge is gonna look like??

[PruneTracy]

8 minutes ago, Bos2Nash said:

Based on this tweet I say Gresham Smith is the designer of the new viaduct. Has anyone seen any prelim plans (because they prolly wont do a rendering) of what the bridge is gonna look like??

This is a CM/GC project so they probably don't have anything yet more advanced than what's in the bridge TIR. That's here:

https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/tdot/construction/cmgc--projects/cmgc_sr1_davidson/124238-00-TIR-Bridge_SIGNED_PJE_12-9-20.pdf

[Baronakim]

1 hour ago, Bos2Nash said:

Based on this tweet I say Gresham Smith is the designer of the new viaduct. Has anyone seen any prelim plans (because they prolly wont do a rendering) of what the bridge is gonna look like??

I hope that the replacement is not just the prosaic POS that Metro replaced the Church Street they built in the 1990s.  IMO Gresham's designers are not known for exciting and innovative results.  I would really like some 21st century design.  Remember  all the drooling we had over the initial Gulch pedestrian bridge proposals which sadly have had NO bridge good or bad ever built?  At least the Demonbreun replacement had some clever railroad inspired motifs   For newer forum members here are some photos of the rejected proposals.  Hopefully Nashville can get a bridge that is more than a boring elevated street.  All of the fantastic new buildings deserve an equally fantastic bridge design.

Edited August 27, 2021 by Baronakim

[smeagolsfree]

I have no idea Adam knew we were going to run this Monday, but now are running this today. Gresham Smith was awarded the contract in June.

[Nash_12South]

Cynically, TDOT will almost certainly only be building back a new bridge resembling the old. I would think Metro would be having to kick in money for anything grander and we would have heard about it.

[downtownresident]

1 hour ago, Nash_12South said:

Cynically, TDOT will almost certainly only be building back a new bridge resembling the old. I would think Metro would be having to kick in money for anything grander and we would have heard about it.

From the document linked by @PruneTracy: 

[CandyAisles]

I am optimistic about this project. Agree with many things @Baronakim said but I’ll bet this will turn out favorably for the city.

Edited August 27, 2021 by CandyAisles

[markhollin]

Here are highlights of The Post article on the Broadway Viaduct:

Gresham Smith expects the project to be executed via the construction manager-general contractor delivery method with so-called "accelerated bridge construction” techniques implemented to expedite the process so as to obstruct traffic as little as possible. With the goal of completing the project within three years, this means a guaranteed maximum price for the project will not be negotiated until the project is more than halfway finished. Gresham Smith will subcontract third-party consultants for geotechnical services and surveying.

A pedestrian bridge has also been proposed as part of the development plan with an access point on the future Broadway viaduct, connecting it to a planned pocket park of irregular dimensions to lie beneath the bridge. Gresham Smith said its services will include bridge design, environmental compliance, lighting, permitting, roadway design, traffic analysis and utility coordination.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/notes-work-starts-on-wedgewood-houston-office-building/article_eb126586-075d-11ec-a5f5-13437c4f62a8.html
 

[PruneTracy]

2 hours ago, Nash_12South said:

Cynically, TDOT will almost certainly only be building back a new bridge resembling the old. I would think Metro would be having to kick in money for anything grander and we would have heard about it.

1 hour ago, downtownresident said:

From the document linked by @PruneTracy:

The decorative bridge rail mentioned will probably take the form of the TDOT "classic" rail. I can't find a photo right away, here is the standard drawing. You'll recognize it when you see it.

https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/tdot/roadway-design/documents/standard_drawings/structure_standard_drawings/current/new-structures/STD11-2.pdf

The decorative lighting will probably take a similar form as the existing lighting on the bridge.

It's possible the bridge gets decorative bents/piers like Demonbreun Street (bent encasement is one of the options mentioned in the TIR) but I would not expect it.