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[Markitecture]

7 hours ago, markhollin said:

405 Broadway (5 stories, 30,000 sq. ft. restaurant/bar) update:  fencing up.

Looking south from Broadway, 1/8 block west of 4th Ave. South:

Looking NW from 4th Ave. South, 1/2 block north of Symphony Place:

Is this where Bar Jovi is going?

[markhollin]

615 7th Ave. South has fencing up around perimeter.  Owners (Room at the Inn) had claimed they wanted to keep this 1850-ish era structure  intact, but perhaps it is beyond saving at this point.  Or, they may actually be getting ready to renovate fully. 

Looking SW from intersection of 7th Ave. South and Drexel St:
 

[smeagolsfree]

Fencing has been up for a couple of months. I think it is there to keep the neighbors out. No permits have been applied for.

[markhollin]

I drive by every week.  The fencing is new.  

[smeagolsfree]

Not to be contrary but I sent WW a photo of this one month ago. I have it in my text history.

[CenterHill]

4 hours ago, markhollin said:

615 7th Ave. South has fencing up around perimeter.  Owners (Room at the Inn) had claimed they wanted to keep this 1850-ish era structure  intact, but perhaps it is beyond saving at this point.  Or, they may actually be getting ready to renovate fully. 

Looking SW from intersection of 7th Ave. South and Drexel St:
 

As has been discussed on this forum many times, I give no credence to claims that any historic building is "beyond saving".    Renovation might be beyond the budget of the current owner, but it's certainly possible for a property like this to be renovated and incorporated into a profitable development.   That will take a developer with vision and access to capital.    I expect there is no historic zoning protection for this particular building and it would be a tragedy if Room in the Inn were to raze it.   

      

[Nashville Cliff]

FWIW, there have been intermittent contractor crews conducting what appears to this casual observer to be surveying and soil tests of the state-owned surface parking lot on Union, next to the Snodgrass Tennessee Tower. 

[Luvemtall]

3 hours ago, CenterHill said:

As has been discussed on this forum many times, I give no credence to claims that any historic building is "beyond saving".    Renovation might be beyond the budget of the current owner, but it's certainly possible for a property like this to be renovated and incorporated into a profitable development.   That will take a developer with vision and access to capital.    I expect there is no historic zoning protection for this particular building and it would be a tragedy if Room in the Inn were to raze it.   

      

Just because a building is old doesn’t mean that it needs to be “ saved” if it has no historical value.  Remember the right of the property owners, they are the only ones who ultimately have to make the decision. It’s their money and intended use that makes what’s right to do. If that bothers some of you, then pony up your monies and buy up every old building you would like to “ preserve “ and do as you like with it. 

[lmc123]

What's the plan for the old fire station #2 site between 1st and 2nd Ave North? 

[VSRJ]

Historically significant or not, I think the city should be saving/preserving/reusing buildings with any semblance of historical architecture. We need something to offset the deluge of glass. As much as I love all the development here, it does yield somewhat of a sterile atmosphere compared to cities that embrace adaptive reuse (Memphis, New Orleans, etc.). Just my two cents.

[BeaveStirs]

[Nashville Cliff]

17 hours ago, Luvemtall said:

Just because a building is old doesn’t mean that it needs to be “ saved” if it has no historical value.  Remember the right of the property owners, they are the only ones who ultimately have to make the decision. It’s their money and intended use that makes what’s right to do. If that bothers some of you, then pony up your monies and buy up every old building you would like to “ preserve “ and do as you like with it. 

Why yes, those of us lacking the capital to compete with deep pocket developers should have no say in the nature of our community. How silly of us.

[markhollin]

Sip SoBro Craft Beer and Coffee will be a new taproom/cafe at 1 floor, 2,090 sq. ft., circa 1946 brick structure at 523 4th Ave. South.

Sip SoBro will feature about 25 beer taps, mainly with lagers and ales made by local breweries. The Kemps, who have dabbled in home beer brewing, will team with Black Press Coffee, which is based in Hendersonville, for the non-alcoholic beverages and food items.

The Kemps have enlisted Daniels and Chandler Architects to handle design work, with Historic Buildings the contractor. Both companies are based in Nashville.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/downtown-building-set-for-beer-taproom-caf/article_681fb6fa-f655-11ec-b1a7-0b3854f76eaf.html
 

[bwithers1]

18 hours ago, Logan McCoy said:

What's the plan for the old fire station #2 site between 1st and 2nd Ave North? 

A replacement fire hall is being constructed there to replace the old one that was demolished alongside the former DCSO HQ that has since moved to South 5th Street. 
 

Across the northern end of that parcel closest to the railroad tracks Metro is building a permanent supportive housing development to move residents off the streets and into housing units with onsite wrap-around services. 

[Armacing]

2 hours ago, Nashville Cliff said:

Why yes, those of us lacking the capital to compete with deep pocket developers should have no say in the nature of our community. How silly of us.

It's the developer's community too.  Each person gets one vote on what the community looks like and that is what they do on their own property.  Then, after everyone is done bringing their own unique vision of good architecture into reality on their land, we can all step back and see what the aggregate "nature of our community" looks like.

[Bos2Nash]

20 hours ago, VSRJ said:

Historically significant or not, I think the city should be saving/preserving/reusing buildings with any semblance of historical architecture. We need something to offset the deluge of glass. As much as I love all the development here, it does yield somewhat of a sterile atmosphere compared to cities that embrace adaptive reuse (Memphis, New Orleans, etc.). Just my two cents.

I do agree the city should look at and work with property owners on preserving architecturally significant buildings. That being said though, I'm not really seeing that much architectural significance with the discussed building. Saving something because it is old does not always equal a good save. Sometimes it is just hoarding lol. It is brick masonry like many structures in town, there is nothing ground breaking about the structure.

Now this building is deemed "worthy of conservation" according to the parcel viewer. We all know that this designation does not mean much as these properties are razed consistently, but historic at least has it on a least. 

[Luvemtall]

Bos2Nash, that’s what I was trying to get to in my post. You just have a better way with words  If a building has a true historical or architectural value, by all means let’s do what can be done to hold onto it. But just because it’s old , doesn’t automatically mean it’s worth saving. 

[Nathan_in_DC]

On 6/22/2022 at 12:00 PM, donNdonelson2 said:

Way Back Wednesday (disclaimer: I may have posted this before)

Back to a time when cowboys ruled Broadway, not bachelorettes! (For those of you who were not around in the 90s, these guys were made from trash/junk and inhabited a vacant lot between 4th & 5th on the north side of the street.)

I remember those! I had TOTALLY forgotten about them. 

[Nathan_in_DC]

On 6/16/2022 at 4:37 PM, markhollin said:

Update on Ballpark Village (8 stories, 359 units, 16,000 sq. ft. of ground level retail, 474 capacity internal garage) at NashvilleNowNext:

https://nashvillenownext.com/2022/06/16/ballpark-village-to-bring-outfield-apartments-to-first-horizon-park-in-nashville/
 

Does anyone know if there is any plan to re-open this stretch of the greenway to the public? I was trying to cut through here while walking my dog when I was in town a few weeks ago but discovered that it was blocked off by a large, permanent fence at the end of 4th Ave N. Don't get me wrong, I love the ballpark and the surrounding development, but it's just mind boggling that they were allowed to completely cut off the greenway for no good reason.

[downtownresident]

33 minutes ago, Nathan_in_DC said:

Does anyone know if there is any plan to re-open this stretch of the greenway to the public? I was trying to cut through here while walking my dog when I was in town a few weeks ago but discovered that it was blocked off by a large, permanent fence at the end of 4th Ave N. Don't get me wrong, I love the ballpark and the surrounding development, but it's just mind boggling that they were allowed to completely cut off the greenway for no good reason.

That is being fixed by this development. It should be fully open once the development is complete. 

[Brit_in_Gtown]

16 hours ago, Nashville Cliff said:

Why yes, those of us lacking the capital to compete with deep pocket developers should have no say in the nature of our community. How silly of us.

Correct, you are 100% right that you should have no say. Get investors and get control. All the developers have investors, it's no different than if you have investors. 

[markhollin]

The Nell (5-8 stories, 78 condos, internal garage) update: windows being set; some skin going on.

Looking west from intersection of 7th Ave. South and Middleton St:

Looking north from Allison St., 1/2 block east of 8th Ave. South:

Looking east from Gleaves St. at 9th Ave. South:

[Nashville Cliff]

9 hours ago, Brit_in_Gtown said:

Correct, you are 100% right that you should have no say. Get investors and get control. All the developers have investors, it's no different than if you have investors. 

Or, recognizing that we don't (yet) live in a hellish libertarian dystopia, I could continue to make use of the existing zoning, planning, and political processes to try and support an appropriate balance of rights among property owners and between individual property owners and the broader community. Yeah, I'll do that one instead.

[lmc123]

Any idea when the updated East Bank planning study will be publicly released? I heard it was going to be fairly soon. 

https://www.nashville.gov/departments/planning/long-range-planning/local-planning-studies/east-bank-planning-study
 

Edited June 29, 2022 by Logan McCoy

[BnaBreaker]

What does "historically significant" even mean though?  I suppose the definition varies from city to city, and from person to person.  But I don't think a president should had have to have been born in a building for it to be considered worthy of preservation.  In a city like Nashville, that has very little in the way of brick masonry building stock remaining from the early 20th century and earlier (outside of downtown anyway,) I would think each one of them is worthy of being saved.