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[BnaBreaker]

8 minutes ago, markhollin said:

The GM of AJ (Alan Jackson's) Good Time Bar says things are getting out of control on Lower Broadway:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/10/25/lower-broadway-matt-harville.html

Sounds like he, and other Broadway mega bar owners, want to be able to have their cake and eat it too. 

[PaulChinetti]

AJ's Good time Bar opening in 2016-2017. 

“We went from being just a little street full of dive bars to becoming this monstrosity of an entertainment mecca.”

2nd sentence in the article is as far as I made it.

 Hahahahaha, ok guy. YOU ALL came in a bought out a dive bar and opened a monstrosity. Miss me with your "street full of dive bars" crap.
 

[Mr Gain]

He says you can't say they are losing too much other than nostalgia of what some people remember. It also seems like he wants to get rid of the street vendors because he believes street vendors open the door for panhandling. The rest of the article is nothing. It looks like there could be some kind of quota of negative articles on broadway. I guess the rag called this dupe to get a few quotes to do yet another hit piece on lower Broadway. What the dupe doesn't get is that the article is possibly another in a long line of stories meant to ratchet up emotions in order to shut down the lower Broadway entertainment district. 

This is what, the fourth article on Lower Broadway in a week? Who or what entities is this rag shilling for? Is it monied interests? If you shut down the entertainment district of lower broad, can you not shut down 2nd Ave., Printers Alley, or the entertainment options soon to be on the other side of the convention center?

What's funny is that without lower Broadway, Nashville isn't getting all of the stores, restaurants, entertainment venues, and high rise construction that is occurring.

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Mr Gain

[markhollin]

President of Nashville Symphony/Schermerhorn Center on problems in their neighborhood:

“We have people who have decided, for whatever reason, that they’d rather not subscribe any longer. They tell us, ‘We love the symphony, but I just can’t deal with it anymore.’ It’s not just the traffic or parking, but also the party atmosphere in the streets, the things you have to walk through to get in the building,” Valentine said. 

He finds syringes in the bushes outside the symphony and graffiti on the building, forcing him to increase his budget for maintenance. He often sees drinking and drug deals in the street.

“If we don’t get real change downtown, I think it’s going to have a long-term negative impact on the symphony. From a business perspective, it’s going to affect our ability to sell tickets down here; it’s going to affect our ability to attract rental client events when the orchestra is not using the hall. It’s already affecting the cost structure to maintain our facility and our property,” Valentine said. 

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/10/27/lower-broadway-alan-valentine-nashville-symphony.html

I have several friends who have been long time season ticket holders who  have told me they have cancelled their memberships because of the hassles with partiers and ridiculous noise levels that have grown exponentially in the last several years.

[henburg]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I agree that there are some measures that could be taken to reign in Broadway a bit, but a lot of this editorial response we're seeing of late is becoming melodramatic to me.

You're telling me people are no longer supporting the Symphony because they don't approve of everything they see on their minutes-long walk from their car to the venue? I don't know, it just feels like a convenient external excuse for declining memberships to me. Furthermore, the complaints of bar owners would feel more valid to me if they weren't so quick to point the finger toward street vendors as one of the biggest catalysts to issues. I'm sure there aren't any ulterior motives there.

[Nashvillechick]

1 hour ago, henburg said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I agree that there are some measures that could be taken to reign in Broadway a bit, but a lot of this editorial response we're seeing of late is becoming melodramatic to me.

You're telling me people are no longer supporting the Symphony because they don't approve of everything they see on their minutes-long walk from their car to the venue? I don't know, it just feels like a convenient external excuse for declining memberships to me. Furthermore, the complaints of bar owners would feel more valid to me if they weren't so quick to point the finger toward street vendors as one of the biggest catalysts to issues. I'm sure there aren't any ulterior motives there.

I know a number of educated well-off people who used to support Schermerhorn and loved going to the Ryman and other music venues, but rarely go downtown anymore.  I live within walking distance, so see  downtown up close on runs/bike rides.  Drunks and syringes aside, it’s ridiculously crowded, dirty, some areas smell, and the noise level can be offensive.  All valid reasons for not spending time and money going there. Sometimes it feels like I had a bad dream about  Nashville, then woke up and found that it was reality...  

Edited October 27, 2022 by Nashvillechick

[Mr Gain]

3 hours ago, markhollin said:

President of Nashville Symphony/Schermerhorn Center on problems in their neighborhood:

“We have people who have decided, for whatever reason, that they’d rather not subscribe any longer. They tell us, ‘We love the symphony, but I just can’t deal with it anymore.’ It’s not just the traffic or parking, but also the party atmosphere in the streets, the things you have to walk through to get in the building,” Valentine said. 

He finds syringes in the bushes outside the symphony and graffiti on the building, forcing him to increase his budget for maintenance. He often sees drinking and drug deals in the street.

“If we don’t get real change downtown, I think it’s going to have a long-term negative impact on the symphony. From a business perspective, it’s going to affect our ability to sell tickets down here; it’s going to affect our ability to attract rental client events when the orchestra is not using the hall. It’s already affecting the cost structure to maintain our facility and our property,” Valentine said. 

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/10/27/lower-broadway-alan-valentine-nashville-symphony.html

I have several friends who have been long time season ticket holders who  have told me they have cancelled their memberships because of the hassles with partiers and ridiculous noise levels that have grown exponentially in the last several years.

 

Well it looks like what happens when you turn the homeless, drug dealers, graffiti artists, and other criminals into a protected class. It's also what happens when you turn the police into the villain class. Policing will not be proactive for at least the next hundred years.

Also, what is this party atmosphere? Is it groups of two, three, four, five people smiling, talking to each other and looking like they're having fun as they walk down the sidewalk? So the les miserables who wear their sweaters tied over their back don't like to see people being happy? Well they need to go see a shrink.

Edited October 27, 2022 by Mr Gain

[samsonh]

7 minutes ago, Mr Gain said:

 

Well it looks like what happens when you turn the homeless, drug dealers, graffiti artists, and other criminals into a protected class. It's also what happens when you turn the police into the villain class. Policing will not be proactive for the next hundred years.

Also, what is this party atmosphere? Is it two, three, four, five people smiling ,talking to each other and looking like they're having fun as they walk down the sidewalk? So the les miserables who wear their sweaters tied over their back don't like to see people being happy? Well they really need to go see a shrink.

You have a bizarre view of the world

[PaulChinetti]

7 minutes ago, Mr Gain said:

 

Well it looks like what happens when you turn the homeless, drug dealers, graffiti artists, and other criminals into a protected class. It's also what happens when you turn the police into the villain class. Policing will not be proactive for at least the next hundred years.

Also, what is this party atmosphere? Is it two, three, four, five people smiling, talking to each other and looking like they're having fun as they walk down the sidewalk? So the les miserables who wear their sweaters tied over their back don't like to see people being happy? Well they need to go see a shrink.

In reality, it's possible everyone can be right. There needs to be just a touch of compromise by everyone on lower broad and it could be more fund and enjoyable for all those involved.

[Mr Gain]

53 minutes ago, Nashvillechick said:

I know a number of educated well-off people who used to support Schermerhorn and loved going to the Ryman and other music venues, but rarely go downtown anymore.  I live within walking distance, so see  downtown up close on runs/bike rides.  Drunks and syringes aside, it’s ridiculously crowded, dirty, some areas smell, and the noise level can be offensive.  All valid reasons for not spending time and money going there. Sometimes it feels like I had a bad dream about  Nashville, then woke up and found that it was reality...  

Wow, crowded. So should we limit the number of people who can go downtown because the sweater tied over their back shemies think they're above other people?  Which people do the shemies want kept out?

Edited October 27, 2022 by Mr Gain

[MontanaGuy]

5 minutes ago, Mr Gain said:

Wow, crowded. So limit the number of people who can go downtown because of the sweater tied over their back shemies. This should be interesting. Which people should be kept out?

There's something very familiar about the sarcastic tone of your posts.  It reminds me of someone whose name I won't mention.  Could it be him again?

[Mr Gain]

24 minutes ago, PaulChinetti said:

In reality, it's possible everyone can be right. There needs to be just a touch of compromise by everyone on lower broad and it could be more fund and enjoyable for all those involved.

Like it or not this is what happens when the police are turned into a villain class and non-productives are turned into a protected class. It is what it is. 

Edited October 27, 2022 by Mr Gain

[Nashvillechick]

19 minutes ago, Mr Gain said:

Wow, crowded. So limit the number of people who can go downtown because the sweater tied over their back shemies think they're above other people? This should be interesting. Which people do the shemies want to be kept out?

Since you appear to have trouble sorting it out, I’ll remind you that this was in response to the Schermerhorn losing support. Much of that comes from the “sweater tied over their back” crowd. 

[Mr Gain]

15 minutes ago, MontanaGuy said:

There's something very familiar about the sarcastic tone of your posts.  It reminds me of someone whose name I won't mention.  Could it be him again?

For some reason you're not debating the points I made.

[Rick Dalton]

I think there is a bit of a selection bias when you talk about season ticket members of the Symphony lol. Not that they’re wrong, but grain of salt.

[bnacincy]

5 hours ago, markhollin said:

President of Nashville Symphony/Schermerhorn Center on problems in their neighborhood:

“We have people who have decided, for whatever reason, that they’d rather not subscribe any longer. They tell us, ‘We love the symphony, but I just can’t deal with it anymore.’ It’s not just the traffic or parking, but also the party atmosphere in the streets, the things you have to walk through to get in the building,” Valentine said. 

He finds syringes in the bushes outside the symphony and graffiti on the building, forcing him to increase his budget for maintenance. He often sees drinking and drug deals in the street.

“If we don’t get real change downtown, I think it’s going to have a long-term negative impact on the symphony. From a business perspective, it’s going to affect our ability to sell tickets down here; it’s going to affect our ability to attract rental client events when the orchestra is not using the hall. It’s already affecting the cost structure to maintain our facility and our property,” Valentine said. 

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/10/27/lower-broadway-alan-valentine-nashville-symphony.html

I have several friends who have been long time season ticket holders who  have told me they have cancelled their memberships because of the hassles with partiers and ridiculous noise levels that have grown exponentially in the last several years.

I have long thought they should have put the Schermerhorn on Church Street where the library is now and the library should relocate into the now (I  believe) vacant Customs House.

Then you could put the Musicians Hall of Fame where the Schermerhorn is now-makes more sense as  the Country Music Hall of fame is nearby and you are right across the street from Hall of Fame park.

 

[Mr Gain]

I wonder what the odds are that the shilling rag will have yet another one of these stories within the next few days. Which age, gender, or ethnic group will they conjure up to be frightened by the mean ole 2 wrists. My guess is they already have the one size fits all template for all three.

Edited October 27, 2022 by Mr Gain

[Luvemtall]

Yes people do have the the right to drink and drug themselves to the ground, but they don’t have the right to do it in the pubic streets. What happens inside those bars , needs to stay inside those bars . In almost every municipality in America, public intoxication will land you at the police station . Our Public streets are not a playground for party hearty drunks. Keep it inside! And before I get responses from all you fans of adult beverages, I know you have that right to do whatever you want To Yourselves, but you don’t have the right to disturb the general public with the nonsense. 

[grilled_cheese]

25 minutes ago, Luvemtall said:

Yes people do have the the right to drink and drug themselves to the ground, but they don’t have the right to do it in the pubic streets. What happens inside those bars , needs to stay inside those bars . In almost every municipality in America, public intoxication will land you at the police station . Our Public streets are not a playground for party hearty drunks. Keep it inside! And before I get responses from all you fans of adult beverages, I know you have that right to do whatever you want To Yourselves, but you don’t have the right to disturb the general public with the nonsense. 

Okay.  Ban non owner occupied STRs then.

[smeagolsfree]

14 minutes ago, grilled_cheese said:

Okay.  Ban non owner occupied STRs then.

Not sure but I think that may have been tried, but if it has not the state will surly knock that down like any other STR ban Metro has tried to put in place.

[smeagolsfree]

Calm the conversation down gentlemen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr Gain]

On 10/27/2022 at 6:58 AM, markhollin said:

President of Nashville Symphony/Schermerhorn Center on problems in their neighborhood:

“We have people who have decided, for whatever reason, that they’d rather not subscribe any longer. They tell us, ‘We love the symphony, but I just can’t deal with it anymore.’ It’s not just the traffic or parking, but also the party atmosphere in the streets, the things you have to walk through to get in the building,” Valentine said. 

He finds syringes in the bushes outside the symphony and graffiti on the building, forcing him to increase his budget for maintenance. He often sees drinking and drug deals in the street.

“If we don’t get real change downtown, I think it’s going to have a long-term negative impact on the symphony. From a business perspective, it’s going to affect our ability to sell tickets down here; it’s going to affect our ability to attract rental client events when the orchestra is not using the hall. It’s already affecting the cost structure to maintain our facility and our property,” Valentine said. 

More at NBJ here:

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2022/10/27/lower-broadway-alan-valentine-nashville-symphony.html

I have several friends who have been long time season ticket holders who  have told me they have cancelled their memberships because of the hassles with partiers and ridiculous noise levels that have grown exponentially in the last several years.

The paywall is down from the story. If you click on the link you can see the whole story.

The story is hilarious. It looks like its made for people who can't think.

Why is this story titled: Lower Broadway: ‘We love the symphony, but I just can’t deal with it anymore’?

The symphony hall is located two streets down from Broadway.

This is either stupidity or an attempt to intentionally mislead readers.

Then there is the mention of graffiti and drug dealing that the guy says is occurring at the symphony hall. What does Broadway have to do with it? 

It seems as if they are targeting the tourism industry and they found another dupe. It looks like the dupe is angling to get another symphony hall built.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 28, 2022 by Mr Gain

[UTgrad09]

4 hours ago, Mr Gain said:

The story is hilarious. It looks like its made for people who can't think.

So it's perfect for you. 

[Mr Gain]

1 hour ago, UTgrad09 said:

So it's perfect for you. 

Ah Appalachia.

I think I'll go into downtown tonight and request  dueling banjos for you.

[MontanaGuy]

45 minutes ago, Mr Gain said:

Ah Appalachia.

I think I'll go into downtown tonight and request  dueling banjos for you.

You're right back at it again aren't you Licec!