Amazon: The Thread | 5,000 Jobs | 1M SQFT in Nashville Yards

[Rockatansky]

On 12/12/2018 at 10:13 AM, Hey_Hey said:

The typical strategy is by mandating inclusion of affordable housing in new developments (inclusionary zoning) or through rent controls.

Both of which are illegal in TN.

On 12/12/2018 at 10:13 AM, Hey_Hey said:

Affordable housing advocates need to do one thing: INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS AVAILABLE

Agree 110%.

[Bos2Nash]

Inclusionary zoning technically isn’t illegal because we already have it. It’s just  it triggered until a developer goes through a certain sequence of events. 

[Rockatansky]

https://www.planetizen.com/news/2018/04/97998-tennessee-legislature-blocks-nashvilles-2016-inclusionary-zoning-policy
 

Inclusionary housing can be developed in TN, but it must be voluntarily.  Requiring Inclusionary Housing is illegal.

[PaulChinetti]

7 minutes ago, Rockatansky said:

https://www.planetizen.com/news/2018/04/97998-tennessee-legislature-blocks-nashvilles-2016-inclusionary-zoning-policy
 

Inclusionary housing can be developed in TN, but it must be voluntarily.  Requiring Inclusionary Housing is illegal.

Good lord. I love my state but COME ON.

[Mr_Bond]

1 hour ago, PaulChinetti said:

Good lord. I love my state but COME ON.

We are the Volunteer State.

[Buildtall]

Few pics from around amazon Seattle Thursday. 

I never saw any Amazon signs on any of the buildings. 

[Dale]

Nice enough, not spectacular, not particularly tall. I like the Nashville design better.

[nashvylle]

That makes me feel better about our design- if amazons hq are like that, ours won’t be any better, but 5k corporate jobs will lead to tall residential buildings 

[MLBrumby]

8 hours ago, Buildtall said:

Few pics from around amazon Seattle Thursday. 

I never saw any Amazon signs on any of the buildings. 

Not even a smile?! That's really weird. 

Anyone else noticed their commercials on TV don't say Amazon... but they do have the smile. When I first saw the one that runs during NFL games (lots of associated companies represented) I actually thought it was a Coke commercial. 

[Buildtall]

I know from some show I’ve seen on tv that is the Amazon area but I don’t know exactly which buildings are the Amazon building’s since I didn't see any signs.

There are some really nice looking buildings around that Amazon bio doom.  They look nicer in person than in my pics. I hope our buildings use color similar to the way seattle’s have. 

[SoundScan]

Amazon occupies around 40 buildings in Seattle, so not really one “HQ.” They tend to keep a low profile, like most large tech companies—an important preservation technique given their near-monopolistic market dominance in a variety of sectors.

[satalac]

On 12/23/2018 at 8:46 AM, Dale said:

Nice enough, not spectacular, not particularly tall. I like the Nashville design better.

I dunno, it has what the Nashville design is lacking. 

Balls.

[Dale]

1 hour ago, satalac said:

I dunno, it has what the Nashville design is lacking. 

Balls.

Toxic masculinity ?

[donNdonelson2]

2 hours ago, Dale said:

Toxic masculinity ?

No, gypsy! They’re crystal balls! 

[Dale]

28 minutes ago, donNdonelson2 said:

No, gypsy! They’re crystal balls! 

Culturally appropriate!

[markhollin]

Amazon HQ site

Looking north from Church Street Viaduct, above 10th Ave. North:

Looking NW from Church Street Viaduct, above 10th Ave. North:

[KJHburg]

Here is a story about Amazon's lease of this mostly empty 50 story office tower in Queens NYC for their offices there.

https://www.cpexecutive.com/post/one-court-square-in-long-island-city-1st-big-winner-of-amazon-move/?utm_source=whatcountsemail&utm_medium=cpe daily&utm_campaign=cpe daily newsletter

[titanhog]

Nashville next?

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/seattle-ization-american-cities-fear-whats-happened-here/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=article_left_1.1&fbclid=IwAR12c5J2ZuLJ7FkHeANI80sed0_MmoPTQaBZRPquZppOyoA6ghUypFwCxk0

 

How’s this for irony? While we’ve been worried about Seattle becoming the next San Francisco, it turns out other cities have been worried about becoming the next Seattle.

That’s right. “Seattle-ization” is a thing now, at least according to a New York Times article published last week. It’s described as “a particularly dire diagnosis,” and characterized by high housing costs and tech wealth, a combination that’s thoroughly transformed the city in an alarmingly short span of time.

Even in New York City, apparently, some folks are terrified that the planned Amazon campus there could turn the place into “Seattle on steroids,” according to Vice Magazine.

The most recent Cost of Living Index release, for the 3rd quarter of 2018, pegs Seattle at 53.6 percent above the national average. In just six years, our index score jumped by about 38 points. No other city comes close to matching that.

[nashvylle]

No. 

[samsonh]

More people making six figures is not bad

[Mr_Bond]

Since housing is the biggest item in a person's budget, when housing costs soar, cost of living soars.  As Nashville's population grows, we can keep housing costs from experiencing Seattle-ization by removing restrictions on all types of housing and housing development.  I'm not making a blanket statement here to remove all zoning laws, nor am I suggesting that all restrictions are bad.  I'm simply pointing out that there is a cost to every benefit, including the benefit of codifying "we don't want THAT kind of development HERE."

[PaulChinetti]

More places to live mean cheaper costs. I'm not sure anyone on the council or mdha understands that, do they?

Agreed with @Mr_Bond all of the cities zoning needs to be revisited and analyzed. Nashville is a growing city it needs to be promoting density in the urban core and surrounding areas, like inside 440 (the middle loop, I guess).

[nashvylle]

@PaulChinetti can you use your new drone and show council members all the potential sites along charlotte avenue, dickerson pike, murfreesboro road, etc. in Nashville that can be utilized for more housing?

We need to be like Minneapolis in our approach to affordable housing. Incentives for the private sector to build more housing, and let's hope it's an over supply to bring down costs. 

[PaulChinetti]

I think I remember someone saying possibly in this thread or the CBD one that there was something like 2000 acres of unused spaced. I can't remember if they said it was in the urban core or just within 440. 

 

[Armacing]

1 hour ago, Mr_Bond said:

I'm not making a blanket statement here to remove all zoning laws, nor am I suggesting that all restrictions are bad.

"Bad" is a matter of perspective.  If I was a homeless person, then I would consider any zoning law or building code that raises the price of land/housing to be "bad" because I have no money to pay for it.  I commend you for recognizing that one man's Quality-Of-Life-Zoning-Law is another man's Doomed-To-Poverty-Or-Homelessness-Law.