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2 hours ago, tarhoosier said:

Had a fun 15 minutes returning to this thread from a year ago forward for a few months. The rumors, the rationalisations, the certainty, the wagers, dubious suspicions, and now it is the capital of the nation and the largest city in the western hemisphere.  Thanks for playing!

Sao Paul, Mexico City, and Lima are all bigger than New York.

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Dale I’ve got a challenge for you.  Try to go a whole day without injecting your political opinion into a thread.  It’d be a miracle.

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So its probably too early for a postmortem, I'll offer a few observations anyway now that it appears HQ2 will be split between Crystal City and Long Island City. If Amazon's decision is a window into

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21 minutes ago, Niner National said:

Sao Paul, Mexico City, and Lima are all bigger than New York.

All of those cities have metros of about 20m people.  Also, I go to SP a lot.  It's geographic boundaries are very large.  Within the same area, one could make NY and Philly a metro area with a population of 26m.

Anyway, Charlotte's managed growth is the way to go.  

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Just now, Dale said:

More like annoyed by certain of their sensibilities. Now, get off my damn lawn.

I enjoy the Charlotte board and come over here often to check on the development/new high rises. I will hang out here if I please. 

Sorry the Millennials bother you so much as they are the subject of so many of your posts. Don't melt, snowflake.

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8 minutes ago, nativetenn said:

I enjoy the Charlotte board and come over here often to check on the development/new high rises. I will hang out here if I please. 

Sorry the Millennials bother you so much as they are the subject of so many of your posts. Don't melt, snowflake.

Co-opting a perjorative your ilk occasioned. 

Cheeky!

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Alongside the news of its new headquarters, Amazon also announced that Nashville will play host to its new East Coast operations hub, which will be responsible for customer fulfillment and transportation, among other activities. This office will provide jobs for 5,000 workers in the city.

 

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Thanks for the kind words. We have some incentives involved.  We speculate they will go to Nashville Yards development.

 

This is from the Tennessean.

Amazon said it will receive performance-based incentives of up to $102 million based on the company creating 5,000 jobs with average wages greater than $150,000. That includes a $65 million cash grant for capital expenditures from the state over the next 7 years, or $13,000 per job. It also includes a $15 million cash grant from Metro Nashville over the next seven years, based on $500 for each job. A  nearly $22 million job tax credit will offset franchise and excise taxes from Tennessee as well.

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This really cements NY's tech leadership.  Google owns around 4m sf of space in Manhattan and is about to commit to another 1.5m sf in a new building on the Westside.    FB and LinkedIn also have more space in NYC than anywhere else outside of the Bay Area.  Also, the Tech Center on Roosevelt Island is a big plus.

That being said, I hope that Charlotte and Raleigh can somehow collaborate to make the corridor more competitive.  Between Duke, UNC, NC State and Charlotte's commercial appeal, this is very viable.

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Ok, I know all of you are about NC unity here. 

 

Butttt. I’m sort of amused Nashville and DC and NYC got picked over our humble capital. Mostly because their media and some people crowed and crowed about Charlotte not making the final top 20.  For an entire year.

 

im nearly positive some Raleigh folk and their local media will still continue to point out Raleigh, the technology Mecca, made the top “20” (really like 17 considering multiple areas for a metro were chosen) for an east coast technology  HQ and lost to 3 other Cities and financial hub Charlotte didn’t. 

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Arguably, none of the short-listed cities NEEDED Amazon. Austin in particular is close to being bigger than Amazon. Charlotte, Indy and Columbus and Raleigh will continue their solid growth trajectories. Detroit: well, it has nowhere to go but up.

Oops! Charlotte didn’t make short-list. Still, the city is unstoppable.

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1 hour ago, Dale said:

Two things going on here: (1) to the dismay of secondary cities, the rich get richer (2) nonetheless, secondary cities are growing in significance ...

https://www.floridarealtors.org/NewsAndEvents/article.cfm?p=2&id=373793&fbclid=IwAR3NgYaDVjJEWZ4b93NXQ3DfW03RQXp7Pq7fJb6jj0exNRAd441emxgAORE

That article seems to cherry pick what it considers a "secondary city" depending on the paragraph. Best as I can tell it basically considers any city more affordable than SF/DC/NYC to be a "secondary city."

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Ok, I know all of you are about NC unity here. 

 

Butttt. I’m sort of amused Nashville and DC and NYC got picked over our humble capital. Mostly because their media and some people crowed and crowed about Charlotte not making the final top 20.  For an entire year.

 

im nearly positive some Raleigh folk and their local media will still continue to point out Raleigh, the technology Mecca, made the top “20” (really like 17 considering multiple areas for a metro were chosen) for an east coast technology  HQ and lost to 3 other Cities and financial hub Charlotte didn’t. 

:p

I do wonder how close Raleigh and Atlanta were in the final decision but imo Nashville probably is the better option for just two simple reasons: 1) Better location logistically speaking. 2) Most lively downtown with room to grow. 

Mostly Nashville wins because of location. 

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3 minutes ago, tozmervo said:

That article seems to cherry pick what it considers a "secondary city" depending on the paragraph. Best as I can tell it basically considers any city more affordable than SF/DC/NYC to be a "secondary city."

I’m okay with secondary cities being “everyone else.”

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I do wonder how close Raleigh and Atlanta were in the final decision but imo Nashville probably is the better option for just two simple reasons: 1) Better location logistically speaking. 2) Most lively downtown with room to grow. 

Mostly Nashville wins because of location. 

As well as (don’t be angry with me) It City status.

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10 minutes ago, Crucial_Infra said:

I do wonder how close Raleigh and Atlanta were in the final decision but imo Nashville probably is the better option for just two simple reasons: 1) Better location logistically speaking. 2) Most lively downtown with room to grow. 

Mostly Nashville wins because of location. 

I don't think anyone was ever actually in the running at all. Amazon got what it wanted from day one: attention.

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12 minutes ago, Crucial_Infra said:

I do wonder how close Raleigh and Atlanta were in the final decision but imo Nashville probably is the better option for just two simple reasons: 1) Better location logistically speaking. 2) Most lively downtown with room to grow. 

Mostly Nashville wins because of location. 

Atlanta is certainly better from a logistical aspect. Biggest Airport in the world, Delta's HQ, UPS HQ, Norfolk Southern's HQ (along with a huge tract of land in the center of DT next to 4 subway lines), and recent announcement of Amazon's logistics hub. I think Amazon felt slighted with the outgoing GA LT Gov's slap on the wrist of Delta's policial stance on gun control. 

I think at the end of the day Tennessee was more shrewd in its negotiations and incentive packages. Nashville over Austin, Dallas, and Atlanta is suprising in multiple ways. 

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