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We presented a field outside Shelby, North Carolina next to a paper corporation's headquarters and a Walmart distribution center??? Oh my - Amazon must have just thrown it in the trash. Transit would have been the least of Amazon's problems.... only 18.8% of Cleveland County has a Bachelor degree or higher, which is barely higher than the 15% that never graduated high school. 

The mass transit available per CATS: "The Transportation Administration of Cleveland County provides services for the elderly and disabled to this location." 

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At the end of the day, the whole Amazon HQ2 process was essentially a sham.  The leadership knew exactly the locations they were aiming for and of course a big ole proverbial cream pie was thrown into their face in NYC by none other, Ms Progressive herself, AOC!!   Of course that site never materialize!  Maybe the Charlotte recruiters had that same intuition as well  and were not going to waste their time!

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5 hours ago, rancenc said:

At the end of the day, the whole Amazon HQ2 process was essentially a sham.  The leadership knew exactly the locations they were aiming for and of course a big ole proverbial cream pie was thrown into their face in NYC by none other, Ms Progressive herself, AOC!!   Of course that site never materialize!  Maybe the Charlotte recruiters had that same intuition as well  and were not going to waste their time!

I agree.  I believe the whole Amazon HQ2 search was a market research project from Amazon to learn about communities and so forth and they have open not only distribution centers in just about every city that applied but sometimes offices like a fairly big one in Austin one in Atlanta etc.   I don't think this crazed 50 state search will ever happen again with a company I said at the time no company does that or not on that scale.  And yes they wanted to go to NYC and DC where Mr Bezos owns the the Post.   They even open a larger office in NYC too just not in Queens but in Manhattan.    Do you hear Micron even confirming they are looking at NC or Texas right now?  they wont even confirm it but they are seriously considering both. 

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8 hours ago, kermit said:

I don't believe we have see these documents before. I stumbled across portions of Charlotte's RFP for Amazon HQ2. The only portion I have glanced at so far is the section titled Logistics where they present the transit options available to the 25 (!) sites proposed to Amazon. My skim reinforces that those who put the Amazon proposal together were completely tone deaf to what Amazon was pretty clear about desiring -- the majority of the sites presented had little or no transit access and no plans were presented (in this chapter anyway) of how that could be remediated. Basically these guys were presenting amazon with sites that would have been great spots for a textile mill back in 1952. Presenting 25 possible sites was also appears (to me) to be a super dumb move -- Amazon wanted to hear about the best possible site per their stated requirements, they didn't want to wade through 25 different possibilities. [none of this is intended to suggest that we had a chance, even with a better proposal]

https://www.wccbcharlotte.com/content/uploads/2018/12/Site-Proposal.pdf

Here is proposed site #2 from the document:

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Gosh that is bad.  Almost as cringeworthy as that  video they put together.  Ugh.   

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7 hours ago, rancenc said:

At the end of the day, the whole Amazon HQ2 process was essentially a sham.  The leadership knew exactly the locations they were aiming for and of course a big ole proverbial cream pie was thrown into their face in NYC by none other, Ms Progressive herself, AOC!!   Of course that site never materialize!  Maybe the Charlotte recruiters had that same intuition as well  and were not going to waste their time!

Not a chance. The Charlotte boosters were all in. They were obviously inept at putting together a salient proposal as evidenced by site #2.  #charlotteisprime. #gag

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10 hours ago, DownEast said:

Not a chance. The Charlotte boosters were all in. They were obviously inept at putting together a salient proposal as evidenced by site #2.  #charlotteisprime. #gag

I mean, I agree for the most part, except for Nashville. Wasn't that 5000 job site added because of their HQ2 presentation. Amazon originally had no intention of Nashville?

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47 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said:

I mean, I agree for the most part, except for Nashville. Wasn't that 5000 job site added because of their HQ2 presentation. Amazon originally had no intention of Nashville?

Not sure what you're agreeing to. "Not a chance" was referring to the notion that the Charlotte contingent didn't try hard enough because they knew Hq2 was a sham as mentioned by RanceNC. Charlotte def had as good a chance as Nashville. Our little league proposal is what dis us in. 

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I don't believe we have see these documents before. I stumbled across portions of Charlotte's RFP for Amazon HQ2. The only portion I have glanced at so far is the section titled Logistics where they present the transit options available to the 25 (!) sites proposed to Amazon. My skim reinforces that those who put the Amazon proposal together were completely tone deaf to what Amazon was pretty clear about desiring -- the majority of the sites presented had little or no transit access and no plans were presented (in this chapter anyway) of how that could be remediated. Basically these guys were presenting amazon with sites that would have been great spots for a textile mill back in 1952. Presenting 25 possible sites was also appears (to me) to be a super dumb move -- Amazon wanted to hear about the best possible site per their stated requirements, they didn't want to wade through 25 different possibilities. [none of this is intended to suggest that we had a chance, even with a better proposal]
https://www.wccbcharlotte.com/content/uploads/2018/12/Site-Proposal.pdf
Here is proposed site #2 from the document:
http://up-bucket-0.s3.amazonaws.com/monthly_2022_01/image.png.8a88b61043a328f64f2af672ca1dc371.png

When they heard Amazon HQ2 they heard another…”ANOTHER DISTRIBUTION CENTER!!” Instead of an actual HQ of a tech company.
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9 hours ago, DownEast said:

Not sure what you're agreeing to. "Not a chance" was referring to the notion that the Charlotte contingent didn't try hard enough because they knew Hq2 was a sham as mentioned by RanceNC. Charlotte def had as good a chance as Nashville. Our little league proposal is what dis us in. 

It was the post you quote, so that was confusing. What I am agreeing to is it being a sham for the most part, except for the Nashville selection, which actually seems to have come from the HQ2 proposals that were submitted by Nashville. So the point I am making is, even if we knew it was going to be a sham, we still should have tried hard. 

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39 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said:

It was the post you quote, so that was confusing. What I am agreeing to is it being a sham for the most part, except for the Nashville selection, which actually seems to have come from the HQ2 proposals that were submitted by Nashville. So the point I am making is, even if we knew it was going to be a sham, we still should have tried hard. 

We should have absolutely tried harder. I just thought it was silly to think our recruitment team thought for a second that HQ2 was a sham and played a modest hand. Why bother?

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News from the Triangle....

Well after Amazon rejected the Triangle as HQ2 (as well as Charlotte region)  they seem to be doing some hiring locally in the Triangle  and I dont mean for their warehouses.   Sounds like Amazon will open a tech office in Raleigh Durham hmmm after Google, Apple and multiple other tech companies have large and small offices here.  

https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2022/01/11/amazon-boosts-hiring-for-local-tech-jobs.html

""As Triangle employers battle to fill open tech positions, a mega company is stepping up its hiring game in the region. E-commerce giant Amazon (Nasdaq: AMZN) has put out dozens of postings for “on-site” developer jobs in the region.  About 50 open positions have been listed in the past two weeks alone for Raleigh and Durham, a review of job postings shows. They include cloud infrastructure architects and database consultants in Durham and customer solutions managers in Raleigh.  Amazon has several locations in the region – including a massive distribution warehouse operation in Garner. But much of its on-site presence – at least so far – has been logistics-related.  One of Amazon’s new job postings says the company is “in [the] process of locating office space in the area of North Carolina, Research Triangle Park.”""

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On 1/13/2022 at 2:55 PM, KJHburg said:

News from the Triangle....

Well after Amazon rejected the Triangle as HQ2 (as well as Charlotte region)  they seem to be doing some hiring locally in the Triangle  and I dont mean for their warehouses.   Sounds like Amazon will open a tech office in Raleigh Durham hmmm after Google, Apple and multiple other tech companies have large and small offices here.  

https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2022/01/11/amazon-boosts-hiring-for-local-tech-jobs.html

""As Triangle employers battle to fill open tech positions, a mega company is stepping up its hiring game in the region. E-commerce giant Amazon (Nasdaq: AMZN) has put out dozens of postings for “on-site” developer jobs in the region.  About 50 open positions have been listed in the past two weeks alone for Raleigh and Durham, a review of job postings shows. They include cloud infrastructure architects and database consultants in Durham and customer solutions managers in Raleigh.  Amazon has several locations in the region – including a massive distribution warehouse operation in Garner. But much of its on-site presence – at least so far – has been logistics-related.  One of Amazon’s new job postings says the company is “in [the] process of locating office space in the area of North Carolina, Research Triangle Park.”""

Shame… an Amazon tower would look awesome in uptown 

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