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Urban Rise => Suburban Decline

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The suburbs need to invest in more road connectivity. As the poor as slowly pushed further and further out of the city, public transportation will become more constrained, especially on poorly connected roads.

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On 9/22/2017 at 1:00 PM, SgtCampsalot said:

Strong Towns in general highlights the "tragic, inevitable necessity" that some communities "will fail," and we can't get around it. But, if we focus on small, incremental improvements to these areas (like allowing by-right construction of "one level of intensity up" of density) we can mitigate the decline in many areas that have a fighting chance.

Anyway there's your jumping off point. What solutions could we move toward to mitigate detrimental effects for communities that are investing themselves in suburban communities that don't have a guaranteed financially viable future?

 

I really enjoy Pete Saunders' work, and his conversation with Chuck Marohn on the Strong Towns podcast was excellent. It is sadly ironic that so many Americans, many of them minorities, were sold this image and dream of suburban life, and right when they leave the urban centers for the American Suburban Dream, the Professional Class (or Creative Class, to borrow Richard Florida's term from "The New Urban Crisis") flocks back to the city, taking with them the living standards that for many years only existed in the suburbs. We are left with disappearing Middle-class neighborhoods, as both suburbs and urban cores are filled with small areas of wealth and privilege surrounded by the poverty and disadvantage of the Service Class and Working Class neighborhoods (again, Richard Florida's terminology).

There is no way to save all suburbs, or cities for that matter, but we can face the problem head on.  Jobs and employment opportunities are leaving the suburbs, so the suburbs have to be better connected to the cities; this means better transit, transportation, and infrastructure to get people to jobs faster, safer, and with less carbon consumption. There has to be more affordable housing, both in the cities and suburbs. The zoning issues and NIMBYism that keeps affordable housing out of "desriable" neighborhoods has to go away. The people that work in a neighborhood need to be able to live in the neighborhood. Perhaps the biggest issue of all is wages and living standards. The jobs and industries that created the American Middle Class are gone, and in its place we have a very high-paid Professional and Creative Class and low paid Service and Working Classes. I'm no economist, but how we address the growing wage disparity may be the single most important economic challenge of our time. 

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^Yeah, there is no one answer. It will be a wide range of things we will need to address.

2 hours ago, JoshuaDrown said:

 I'm no economist, but how we address the growing wage disparity may be the single most important economic challenge of our time. 

It is. And since you're not an economist, you stand as one of the better people to determine how we move forward: Economics is a Form of Brain Damage

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7 minutes ago, rancenc said:

I legit would never have guessed that Fred's had 159 stores to close, but low and behold it had 628 stores as of summer 2017. 

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6 hours ago, rancenc said:

 

6 hours ago, tozmervo said:

I legit would never have guessed that Fred's had 159 stores to close, but low and behold it had 628 stores as of summer 2017. 

This is only a good thing for Dollar General, who is thriving off of distressed areas and food deserts in non-metro, rural America:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/13/dollar-general-walmart-buhler-haven-kansas

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