Cambria Hotel and Suites | 8-Story 155-Room Hotel [Approved]

[Jernigan]

5 hours ago, nite owℓ said:

 

I saw this sign posted on the fence a few weeks ago, but forgot to inquire if anyone has seen the agenda for the meeting on Dec 19th?

 

no staff reports though 

[nite owℓ]

Does anyone find it strange that ARB Staff approved substantial changes without posting the agenda? These are public meetings (and we have a right to voice concern) but it feels as though we are now being kept out of  the loop. First 520 and now this. We are being shown one thing, and something else is being built -- very deceptive. Cambria is installing art panels -- is that on their own accord or are they applying for a density bonus?

[gibby]

Construction plans for this project have been approved by the City.  I expect that this could get started at any time.

[jack]

On 12/31/2019 at 1:14 AM, nite owℓ said:

Does anyone find it strange that ARB Staff approved substantial changes without posting the agenda? These are public meetings (and we have a right to voice concern) but it feels as though we are now being kept out of  the loop. First 520 and now this. We are being shown one thing, and something else is being built -- very deceptive. Cambria is installing art panels -- is that on their own accord or are they applying for a density bonus?

It is not nefarious. They post the agenda usually by the Friday before. 

Density bonuses fall under MPB not ARB. 

[Jvest55]

1 hour ago, jack said:

It is not nefarious. They post the agenda usually by the Friday before. 

Density bonuses fall under MPB not ARB. 

I'd like to see you defend what 520 did in their respective forum.

[jack]

Your beef is with the city for missing it. It is probably was not intentional. 

[IAmFloridaBorn]

According to growth spotter, Lincoln Property People are eyeing this lot for a 305 ft tall mixed used tower.

 

 

[orlandouprise]

It will be 80’ by the time it’s built in 2040

[IAmFloridaBorn]

9 minutes ago, orlandouprise said:

It will be 80’ by the time it’s built in 2040

It’s prime land facing the lake. It’ll be built. Lincoln has done well ( if they ever start Church Street Plaza 2) I’ll believe them. 

[JFW657]

That's a really good parcel for a residential high rise. 

Practically screams for one. 

[IAmFloridaBorn]

4 hours ago, IAmFloridaBorn said:

According to growth spotter, Lincoln Property People are eyeing this lot for a 305 ft tall mixed used tower.

 

 

Article states they withdrew their request for October with plans to resubmit.

not sure what happened.

mixed use residential. Working with Baker Barrios unfortunately 

[orlandouprise]

18 hours ago, IAmFloridaBorn said:

It’s prime land facing the lake. It’ll be built. Lincoln has done well ( if they ever start Church Street Plaza 2) I’ll believe them. 

nothing would make me happier... even if it is designed by the most uninspiring JV firm in the universe.

[orange87]

23 hours ago, IAmFloridaBorn said:

According to growth spotter, Lincoln Property People are eyeing this lot for a 305 ft tall mixed used tower.

With how relatively small that parcel of land is, and being 305 feet tall, this one shouldn't be too stubby.

Edited October 21, 2023 by orange87

[F-L-A]

23 hours ago, IAmFloridaBorn said:

It’s prime land facing the lake. It’ll be built. Lincoln has done well ( if they ever start Church Street Plaza 2) I’ll believe them. 

If they considered it prime land it wouldn't have sat vacant for so long. Speaking of vacant lots... are they pulling an Orlando Magic with Church Street? 

[JFW657]

3 hours ago, orange87 said:

With how relatively small that parcel of land is, and being 305 feet tall, this one shouldn't be too stubby.

I wonder if that's 305 ft with or without the inevitable visor....  

[dcluley98]

305' isn't all that tall really, but I like it for the step up from Lake Eola.  A slim but shorter tower there makes sense for future development westward to still have lake views. 

(kind of tongue in cheek, but from an urban planning standpoint, furreal)

[JFW657]

21 minutes ago, dcluley98 said:

305' isn't all that tall really, but I like it for the step up from Lake Eola.  A slim but shorter tower there makes sense for future development westward to still have lake views. 

(kind of tongue in cheek, but from an urban planning standpoint, furreal)

No, but I bet you wouldn't want to step off of it.....  

But seriously, 305' is probably just about the right height for that location.  

If it ever happens. 

[Uncommon]

10 hours ago, F-L-A said:

If they considered it prime land it wouldn't have sat vacant for so long. Speaking of vacant lots... are they pulling an Orlando Magic with Church Street? 

Orlando Magic have a sh*tty track record, whereas Lincoln typically follows through. So I expect them to build the Edge and this tower as well. Supply chain issues and ridiculous interest rates may stall them but I think they do eventually get built once we see stabilization in the market.

[Ivanhoe]

On 10/20/2023 at 7:28 PM, IAmFloridaBorn said:

According to growth spotter, Lincoln Property People are eyeing this lot for a 305 ft tall mixed used tower.

 

 

Dynetech comes in at about 360 feet so this would be just a bit smaller. Good infill that would finally patch up the street wall.

Edited October 22, 2023 by Ivanhoe

[IAmFloridaBorn]

1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

Dynetech comes in at about 360 feet so this would be just a bit smaller. Good infill that would finally patch up the street wall.

It’ll be like placing another Church Street Plaza 1 right there without the broham hat.

[Uncommon]

Just now, IAmFloridaBorn said:

It’ll be like placing another Church Street Plaza 1 right there without the broham hat.

True but this would fill in a significant gap in the skyline from Lake Eola.

[IAmFloridaBorn]

14 minutes ago, Uncommon said:

True but this would fill in a significant gap in the skyline from Lake Eola.

Ehh only if its orientation isn’t east to west which seems like the likely set up. 

[dcluley98]

3 hours ago, IAmFloridaBorn said:

Ehh only if its orientation isn’t east to west which seems like the likely set up. 

Probably not. From the article you linked to, they had the whole lot including those existing buildings on the south side that would be demo'd.  On that parcel, the likely scenario for residential/hotel would be oriented in such a way that the maximum amount of units have a view/balcony overlooking the lake. It sounds weird, but people pay more for a view of the lake. The developer will go out of their way to maximize the estern facing area so that they can charge more for the units. 

[Ivanhoe]

There was a proposal for this lot pre-Cambria that shows what this would potentially look like as a mid rise. Unfortunately I cannot find it — perhaps someone else has it.  
 

It was also designed by the titular head of Orlando architecture and design, so we would have a pretty good idea how this will turn out .  Like others have mentioned, at least Lincoln Properties is behind it and they have a decent track record in DTO.

[JFW657]

https://www.growthspotter.com/2023/10/20/lincoln-property-eyes-lake-eola-site-for-mixed-use-tower/

The form bends and folds sounds like it's going to be one of those artsy looking things.