HOPES, WISHES, AND PREDICTIONS FOR THE NEW YEAR

[Pdt2f]

1 hour ago, Binbin98 said:

Bezos could literally integrate amazon into the fabric of the city and become what Nashville will be known for forever.

That actually kind of terrifies me. I would like for amazon to invest in Nashville but I don’t want Nashville to be entirely identified with one company. We’d become NashAmazon or something. 

[VSRJ]

^ Oh they'd take more than that. We'd be nAmazon.

[smeagolsfree]

Nashmazon!

[LA_TN]

Anashmazonville

[smeagolsfree]

Hey Guys,

Gonna resurrect this thread and let you look at the few hits and mostly misses of the last year and see if we can do better for the NEW YEAR.

 

W did have a few surprises though.

[Armacing]

My wish is that CSX would decide to create a privately-owned commuter train service in Nashville.  My hope is that all the recent corporate relocations (and additional ones in the future) will cause Williamson county real estate prices to sky-rocket to outrageous heights.  My prediction is that the Amazon Logistics HQ and the incentive deal surrounding it will be a political lightning rod that will effect more than one local election - with negative implications for downtown development and economic growth in general.

[Dale]

20 minutes ago, Armacing said:

My wish is that CSX would decide to create a privately-owned commuter train service in Nashville.  My hope is that all the recent corporate relocations (and additional ones in the future) will cause Williamson county real estate prices to sky-rocket to outrageous heights.  My prediction is that the Amazon Logistics HQ and the incentive deal surrounding it will be a political lightning rod that will effect more than one local election - with negative implications for downtown development and economic growth in general.

Meaning a backlash against lavish incentives ?

[samsonh]

45 minutes ago, Armacing said:

My wish is that CSX would decide to create a privately-owned commuter train service in Nashville.  My hope is that all the recent corporate relocations (and additional ones in the future) will cause Williamson county real estate prices to sky-rocket to outrageous heights.  My prediction is that the Amazon Logistics HQ and the incentive deal surrounding it will be a political lightning rod that will effect more than one local election - with negative implications for downtown development and economic growth in general.

I have heard zero negative feedback about the Amazon deal and think the incentives were actually quite light for the benefit received. 

[nashvylle]

10 minutes ago, samsonh said:

I have heard zero negative feedback about the Amazon deal and think the incentives were actually quite light for the benefit received. 

PATHE has a lot of negative feedback and council members on both sides want COLA in exchange for Amazon incentives. 

[samsonh]

17 minutes ago, nashvylle said:

PATHE has a lot of negative feedback and council members on both sides want COLA in exchange for Amazon incentives. 

Pathe has no impact on the overall debate and will change few people's opinions. COLA would be great, but you may have to raise taxes for that. Money does not just appear out of thin air because people want it to. 

[nashvylle]

Just now, samsonh said:

Pathe has no impact on the overall debate and will change few people's opinions. COLA would be great, but you may have to raise taxes for that. Money does not just appear out of thin air because people want it to. 

I agree with you on Amazon being a great deal (especially compared to DC and NYC). I am not arguing the merit of PATHE's impact (I wouldn't say they have no impact whatsoever), I am just refuting that there has been zero negative feedback. 

[samsonh]

2 minutes ago, nashvylle said:

I agree with you on Amazon being a great deal (especially compared to DC and NYC). I am not arguing the merit of PATHE's impact (I wouldn't say they have no impact whatsoever), I am just refuting that there has been zero negative feedback. 

True, I should have said next to zero. 

[Binbin98]

My predictions for this year are that there is just more of the same: more corporate relocations and more luxury hotels and what not. I also think that there will be one or two more international flights announced and then no more until like 2022 or whatever.  I also predict that amazon will open an amazon go cashless store on its campus in downtown Nashville and that Tony G’s building will not be built but that there will still be tall buildings being proposed and built in Nashville.

[Armacing]

12 minutes ago, Binbin98 said:

 Tony G’s building will not be built

I have a new-years "hope" that you are wrong about that, but my logical side has a new-years "fear" that you are correct.

[Armacing]

2 hours ago, Dale said:

Meaning a backlash against lavish incentives ?

Personally, I don't consider the Amazon incentives to be all that lavish when compared to other recent corporate relocations and public works projects that only benefit specific industries (e.g., convention centers and the hotel industry, etc.).  I was thinking more about how the SJW side of the democratic party in Nashville might be able to spin the Bezos/Billionaire/Big-Corporate/Monopoly aspect of the deal into some kind of Anti-Corporate/Organized-Labor coalition and take down more moderate democrat incumbents.  Then you might see things like the employee tax that was attempted in Seattle, even though that ultimately fell apart.  I don't know if anyone will pursue this strategy, I'm just saying from my perspective, there is a political angle to this that could be exploited if they can put all the pieces together.

[Dale]

7 minutes ago, Armacing said:

Personally, I don't consider the Amazon incentives to be all that lavish when compared to other recent corporate relocations and public works projects that only benefit specific industries (e.g., convention centers and the hotel industry, etc.).  I was thinking more about how the SJW side of the democratic party in Nashville might be able to spin the Bezos/Billionaire/Big-Corporate/Monopoly aspect of the deal into some kind of Anti-Corporate/Organized-Labor coalition and take down more moderate democrat incumbents.  Then you might see things like the employee tax that was attempted in Seattle, even though that ultimately fell apart.  I don't know if anyone will pursue this strategy, I'm just saying from my perspective, there is a political angle to this that could be exploited if they can put all the pieces together.

All the ingredients are there.

[Bos2Nash]

My wish is to see more protected bike lanes designed and built throughout the downtown area. 

My other wish is the city of Nashville and the NCDC join forces to create a design competition to reconstruct the Broadway Viaduct into a more complete, urban street with a design and structure that would be iconic for the city.

[UTgrad09]

My wish is that all pedal taverns, party buses, tractors pulling trailers filled with drunks, and those stupid horses and carriages be REMOVED from public right of ways. It's one thing on Broadway where you have multiple lanes and can get around these annoying touron devices, but most of downtown's streets are too narrow, and they cause traffic jams. They seem like a fun idea (for idiots), but they are a public nuisance. If they want to keep these in operation, perhaps they should create some sort of stupid trail on the East Bank near the stadium (especially when the scrapyard leaves) where these idiots can parade around.

Also, all scooter users should be licensed and required to wear helmets. You should also have to blow into a breathalyzer in order to start one of those damn things. Furthermore, they should set up stocks in Public Square, so people caught running red lights, weaving in and out of lanes, or driving down sidewalks where there are pedestrians will be forced to sit in the stocks for 2 days while the good citizens of Nashville pummel them with rotten produce.

Oh, and I hope Tony's tower gets underway.

[grilled_cheese]

Wishes:

We make the sneak thieves from the outlier counties pay there fare share. 

 

Build a wall around Davidson County so the mouth breathing opioid addicts can't get in.

 

Preds win the cup.

 

Bulldoze all churches and take the land that rightfully belongs to the Good People of Davidson County.

If you talk with an accent things cost 6.66% more.

[donNdonelson2]

Wishes:

Love

Peace

Freedom

Happiness

(even for those who speak with any sort of accent or dialect, and for those who are churchgoers)

[smeagolsfree]

On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 7:00 PM, UTgrad09 said:

Furthermore, they should set up stocks in Public Square, so people caught running red lights, weaving in and out of lanes, or driving down sidewalks where there are pedestrians will be forced to sit in the stocks for 2 days while the good citizens of Nashville pummel them with rotten produce.

Public hangings would be nice as well.

20 hours ago, grilled_cheese said:

We make the sneak thieves from the outlier counties pay there fare share. 

A toll into the city would also be nice, however I would have to pay unless I sneak in.

 

Seriously,

I do think we will get some more major corporate relocations to Nashville and maybe one to fill the One KVB tower. I am very hopeful we will get an announcement of a 600+ foot tower downtown that has not been announced. 

If we go into recession, it is a very mild recession!

HOPE & WISH IS the Rescue Mission is offered a Kings ransom for their property and move.

[PruneTracy]

On ‎2018‎-‎12‎-‎29 at 3:19 PM, Bos2Nash said:

My wish is to see more protected bike lanes designed and built throughout the downtown area. 

My other wish is the city of Nashville and the NCDC join forces to create a design competition to reconstruct the Broadway Viaduct into a more complete, urban street with a design and structure that would be iconic for the city.

This structure needs to be replaced (I think the sufficiency rating is 50) and is likely on a TDOT replacement list but the problem is that it's quickly getting hemmed in on all sides by development. Nashville Yards and presumably the Tennessean development will build right up to the back of sidewalk. Union Station (which is NRHP protected) is also right up to the sidewalk in the southeast quadrant. The lane widths are already ten feet so not a whole lot of room to add anything. Plus CSX is below.

[WebberThomas4]

Hopes: less drama/controversy in our local government. I know it is an election year, but this past year was exhausting. 

Wishes: we land a few corporate relocations.

Predictions: there’s an announcement regarding PSC metals.  

[Buildtall]

Better health  and maybe a few new ( tall ) announcements.  Happy New Year  UP ers 

[markhollin]

As big as 2018 was, this new year is going to be even bigger as far as construction goes---probably the biggest in the city's history. There should be at least 65 tower cranes up in Davidson County alone. 

2019 PROJECTS THAT SHOULD TOP-OUT OR BE WELL UNDERWAY:

Second Ave. Partners Condo Tower (40 stories)
5th & Broadway Apt. Tower (34 stories)
Broadwest Hotel/Residential (34 stories) 
805 Lea Apt. Tower (30 stories)
Embassy Suites Hotel (30 stories)
Endeavor Broadway Apt/Office Tower (27 stories)
5th & Broadway Office Tower (26 stories)
2012 West End Ave. Apts (25 stories)
Grand Hyatt Hotel (24 stories)
Gulch Union Office Tower (21 stories)
Broadwest Office (21 story office, plus additional retail)
Drury Plaza Hotel. (21 stories)
Amazon Excellence HQ, Tower 1 (21 stories)
Amazon Excellence HQ, Tower 2 (21 stories)
The Joseph Hotel (21 stories)
Flank Hotel (20 stories)
Kenect Nashville Apts/Retail (20 stories) 
Centric Hotel (20 stories)
Vanderbilt Univ. Tower (20 stories)
Nashville Yards Apt. Tower 1 (18 stories)
Curio Hotel (18 stories)
Nashville Yards AEG Boutique Hotel (17 stories) 
Second Ave. Partners Four Seasons Hotel (17 stories)
W Hotel (16 stories)
The Moore Office Tower (16 stories)
908 Division Apts. (16 stories)
Nashville Yards 200 10th Ave. North Office (15 stories)
Virgin Hotel (15 stories)
TopGolf Courtyard by Marriott & Fairfield Inn (14 stories)
GBT 3415 Murphy Rd. Residential Tower (14 stories)
Graduate Hotel (12 stories)
Hampton Inn Capitol View (11 stories)
LaQuinta Inn Interstate Drive (11 stories)
TownPlace Suites, Charlotte Ave (11 stories) 
Eleventh House Hotel (10 stories)
Printers House Hotel, 10 stories
Nashville Yards 1001 Church St. Office (10 stories) 
GBT 3415 Murphy Rd. Office Tower (10 stories) 
Sixth Ave. South Apts (10 and 9 stories)
Asurion HQ I (10 stories)
Asurion HQ II (9 stories)
Peabody Plaza (9 stories) 
Tapestry Collection Hotel, former UA Tower (9 stories)
Centennial Hospital Garage (8 stories)
Water Tower Condos (7 stories)
TownPlace Suites Gay St. (7 stories)
Alto Condos (7 stories)
The Manning, Phase I (7 stories)
Element Hotel, OneC1TY (7 stories)
Fairfield Inn West End (7 stories)
The Derby (6 stories)
Federal Courthouse (6 stories—but will look more like 12) 
Holiday Inn Select MetroCenter (6 stories)
Skyline Medical Center (2 extra floors on top of existing 4)
iFly Nashville (6 stories)
The Kirby (6 stories)
Panattoni Music Row (6 stories) 
Veteran Affordable Housing (5 stories)
Home2Suites MetroCenter (5 stories)
Ludlow Flats (5 stories)
Element Hotel airport (5 stories)
Three Thirty Three Office (5 stories)
Anchor Health Office (5 stories)
Aloft Hotel, McGavock Pike (5 stories)
Broadstone Stockyards Apts (5 & 4 stories)
Lofts on 44th (4 stories)
Cambria Suites Airport (4 stories)
Element Hotel Airport (4 stories)
Ensley Blvd. Apts (4 stories)
Space Box West Storage (4 stories)
The Manning, Phase II (4 stories)
Connect at City Heights (4 stories)
StayBridge Suites, Charlotte Ave (4 stories)
The Row at 6th & Garfield (4 stories)
Dismas House (4 stories)
Belcourt Village (4 stories)
Six.O.Nine (three 4 story buildings)
Hyatt Place, Bedford Place (4 stories)
26th & Clarksville Senior Housing (4 stories)
Brentwood Commons IV (4 stories)
12th & Wedgwood Apts. (4 and 3 stories)
31st & Bellwood (4 and 3 stories)
Hyatt House Airport (4 stories)
Boscobil I & II of Envison Cayce (4 and 2 stories)
The Knox at MetroCenter (eleven 4 story buildings)
Illume Condos (4 stories)
TSU Dorms (two at 4 stories each)
Tobacco Barn repurpose into apts. (4 stories)
Bells Bluff (multiple 4 story buildings)
Rivertop Apts. (multiple 4 story buildings)
The Alameda (4 and 3 stories)
3131 Long Blvd. (4 stories)
Candlewood Suites, Trousdale (4 stories)
TSU Health and Sciences Building (4 stories) 
Trinity and Edwin (4 stories)
Novel Charlotte (multiple 4 story buildings)
Delta Ave. Townhomes (4 and 3 stories)
Rayon City Townhomes (numerous 3 story buildings)
Carter Group Building (3 stories)
Publix Grocery, 8th Ave. South (3 stories)
2720 Delaware (3 stories)
83 Freight (3 stories)
Tennessee State Library & Archives (3 stories)
Bernard Center(3 stories)
44th Ave. North Townhomes (3 stories)
Long & Burns Row Houses (3 stories)
Hamilton Ave. Townhomes (3 stories)
Townhomes at Parthenon (3 stories)
Hume (3 stories)
Oakwood Flats (ten 3 story buildings) 
2AVES Townhomes (eight 3 story buildings)
Silo Bend Phase II (multiple 3 story buildings)
Fairgrounds exhibition buildings
Soccer Stadium at Fairgrounds, 27,000 seats
Fairgrounds Residential/Commercial development, 5 buildings
Airport Concourses A & D, apron expansion, admin building, another 6 story garage
Hill Center Greenwood
Sylvan Supply (former Madison Millworks)
Hunter Station Restaurant Campus (9 outlets)
Russell Street Church BnB 
Nashville Yards AEG District (4,000 seat theater, 700 seat club, bowling alley, restaurants)
Belmont University Performing Arts Center (1,700 seats)
Half a dozen residential projects along Dickerson Pike corridor
Printers Alley reimagined 
Roxy Theater redevelopment
Valley Arts Building repurposed for office/retail (3 stories)
Capitol View Park
Yazoo Brewery
Corsair Distillery repurpose
Stocking 51, Phase IV repurpose
Silo Studio repurpose
Taylor Place warehouse repurpose
Ben West Library repurpose
Meridian Street UnitedMethodist Church repurpose
Bellevue Ice Center
Numerous residential projects along West Trinity Lane
Starwood Town Center
Madison Square redevelopment
Donelson Square redevelopment
Dinerstein 351 unit apt building at 805-809 Division

 

Projects in pipeline for 2019 and beyond:

Paramount Tower (65 stories)
JW Marriott second tower (30 stories)
Gulch Union Apt. Tower (28 stories)
Hensler Apt/Hotel at Rolling Mill Hill (26 stories)
Greystar Broadway & 19th Apts (26 stories)
Bridgestone Arena Hotel (25 stories) 
Nashville Yards Office Tower IV (25 stories)
1715 West End (two 25 story towers)
HRI Mixed-use at Rosa Parks and Commerce (24 stories)
Circle South Hotel (20 stories)
Greystar Broadway & 19th Hotel (16 stories)
Airport Terminal Hotel (16 stories) 
Gulch Union Hotel (16 stories)
Hotel Broadway on McGavock (16 stories)
North Point Hospitality Midtown Hotel 1 (15 stories)
Nashville Yards Office Tower III (15 stories)
Lafayette & 8th Hotel (15 stories)
Contralto Condos (12 stories)
5 City Place, One C1TY (13 stories)
7 City Place, One C1TY (12 stories) 
12th & Hawkins (12 stories)
Homeless Service Center (11 stories)
LC SoBro Phase II (11 stories)
The Reservoir Residential/Office (11 stories, 8 stories, numerous 4 and 3 stories) 
Canopy by Hilton, Gulch (10 stories)
Hampton Inn/Tru Hotel, Gulch (10 stories)
Nashville Yards Apt. Tower II (10 stories)
North Point Hospitality Midtown Hotel 2 (10 stories)
17th & Grand (7 stories)
TopGolf Apts (7 stories)
Germantown Union (7, 6, and 4 stories)
Summit Hill/Brian Paul Hotel development (6 and 4 stories)
Sky Nashville (6 stories)
The Olympic (5 stories)
MDHA Apts at Rolling Mill Hill (4 stories)
Lipscomb Univ. College of Business (4 stories)
Capitol View Phase IV Apts (several 4 story buildings)
Martin & Humphries (3 stories)
Boathouse Park
Metro Nashville H.S. of the Arts, Rolling Mill Hill
Gulch Pedestrian Bridge
Nuehoff Packing Plant redevelopment
Vanderbilt University Graduate School Village at Broadway and 21st
Tanger Outlets Mall in Antioch
 

Projects that are dormant or dead:

Buckingham Gulch Apt Tower (38 stories) 
One KVB Circle (25 stories)
Demonbreun Hill (22, 18, 12, 10 stories)
East Bank Ferris wheel (20 stories)
House of Blues Hotel and Club (18, 9, 5 stories, 1,500 capacity)
Stanza Hotel (12 stories)
Comfort Inn, 14th Ave. North (11 stories)
8th & Drexel Hotel (10 stories)
Outpost Nashville (9, 7, 5 stories)
Unnamed Hotel near on 15th Ave, north of Church (8 stories)
Gateway Germantown (7 stories)
Crescendo Apts. (6 stories)
Broadway Lofts at 120 2nd Ave. South (6 stories)
Main & Forrest mixed use  (4 stories)
August Moon Theater 
First Baptist Church redevelopment
IKEA Antioch