520 Church St. | 12-Story Residential [Under Construction]

[DreS0803]

 so they added an extra floor? 

[gibby]

I think it's basically 12 floors along Osceola and 13 floors along Eola because of the grade difference.

[jrs2]

3 hours ago, gibby said:

I think it's basically 12 floors along Osceola and 13 floors along Eola because of the grade difference.

yeah...I was wondering because it looks like a pretty substantial grade difference.  Not as much as Aspire was, but if you were on a skateboard, you'd be flyin' down the sidewalk...

[bqknight]

Equipment on site. They moved in a temporary trailer office as well. 

[dwSouthEola]

new to the site, joined to follow the info and pics from everyone on this project. i'm glad they listened to feedback at the info meeting and pulled the blue plastic sheeting off the fence at church/eola that was blocking visibility.. that intersection is scary enough!

Edited July 26, 2018 by dwSouthEola

[jgardnerucf]

Def agree on making it a 4-way stop there.

Edited July 26, 2018 by jgardnerucf
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[spenser1058]

6 hours ago, dwSouthEola said:

new to the site, joined to follow the info and pics from everyone on this project. i'm glad they listened to feedback at the info meeting and pulled the blue plastic sheeting off the fence at church/eola that was blocking visibility.. that intersection is scary enough!

Glad to have you with us!

[bqknight]

9 hours ago, dwSouthEola said:

new to the site, joined to follow the info and pics from everyone on this project. i'm glad they listened to feedback at the info meeting and pulled the blue plastic sheeting off the fence at church/eola that was blocking visibility.. that intersection is scary enough!

They NEED to make that a 4 way stop. It's horrible. No one knows what to do there and I hear an almost accident nearly everyday. The blue tarp they had made it actually impossible to see people coming. 

[dwSouthEola]

At the Abbey info mtg there was an ask for 4-way stops at Church/Osceola & Church/Eola, was there any straight answer why they refuse to place them? I think the side-step was something about the larger downtown plan (made for all of downtown in the 1990s) somehow approved the development without requiring a traffic plan or study. Seems any traffic plan made in the 90s couldn't be relevant to the neighborhood today, or surrounding intersections of this project where the land was rezoned in 2004/14yrs ago.

[orange87]

Do you think this will have any decent impact on our skyline from any angle?

[gibby]

I think it will probably poke up into view for folks driving on the 408.

[IAmFloridaBorn]

Some additional land clearing photos

[jrs2]

^^

Oooh, I love that first shot; love the perspective.

[Jvest55]

On 7/31/2018 at 4:44 PM, dwSouthEola said:

At the Abbey info mtg there was an ask for 4-way stops at Church/Osceola & Church/Eola, was there any straight answer why they refuse to place them? I think the side-step was something about the larger downtown plan (made for all of downtown in the 1990s) somehow approved the development without requiring a traffic plan or study. Seems any traffic plan made in the 90s couldn't be relevant to the neighborhood today, or surrounding intersections of this project where the land was rezoned in 2004/14yrs ago.

This intersection is wicked dangerous, somehow cars fly down it too.. on brick roads. 

One reason why they may refute it is by placing a stop sign it creates more traffic and more road noise for residents. If you let cars pass through there's less noise in general (example no bass thumping from a car playing loud music making a stop at a 4 way intersection)  but still, I would like to see a 4 way stop there regardless. 

Edited August 6, 2018 by Jvest55
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[smonteserin]

6 hours ago, Jvest55 said:

This intersection is wicked dangerous, somehow cars fly down it too.. on brick roads. 

One reason why they may refute it is by placing a stop sign it creates more traffic and more road noise for residents. If you let cars pass through there's less noise in general (example no bass thumping from a car playing loud music making a stop at a 4 way intersection)  but still, I would like to see a 4 way stop there regardless. 

Today I made a left turn from Church onto Osceola without stopping as there is no stop sign, and a woman waiting at the stop began yelling at me out of her window as she had started to pull out and assumed that I should have stopped. It is such a confusing and dangerous intersection.

[dwSouthEola]

Driving on Church last night I  was behind 3 cars who all stopped one after another at Osceola and again at Eola as if there were stop signs. I appreciate the gesture but the city has even said this causes "good samaritan accidents" bc the cross traffic thinks "Should I go??" and there's a standoff until someone or often both people end up going, causing an accident and/or a lot of near misses. A comment on the South Eola fb page was "public perception that there are stop signs where there aren't may itself be justification to place them" bc it removes the good samaritan scenario.  I also think if the condo boards were to float a petition about this to residents it would help.

My street level pics aren't that exciting but I took this yesterday morning, the flags along Osceola remind me of a used car lot. 

[jrs2]

^^

the "good Samaritan" scenario  is a very bad thing because it alters learned behavior and then that can cause a later accident because the affected party expected "good Samaritan" behavior a subsequent time and got a T-bone instead.

[aent]

4 hours ago, jrs2 said:

^^

the "good Samaritan" scenario  is a very bad thing because it alters learned behavior and then that can cause a later accident because the affected party expected "good Samaritan" behavior a subsequent time and got a T-bone instead.

Plus the fact you're never actually being a good samaritan either, because the time it would take for you to stop and allow the other person to go is in fact much more then if you just went and then they got to go behind you.

[IAmFloridaBorn]

[dwSouthEola]

The view 2 days ago through the fence at Church/Eola Drive

[bqknight]

They’re putting the crane up. 

 

 

[jrs2]

^^

wow are you guys with an Alphabet Agency or something?  Breaking photos!

Why the hec am I not at the top of Aventura Hotel right now?

[IAmFloridaBorn]

Not nearly as good as the previous posters but got some today.

[dwSouthEola]

Saw a pole with some equipment on it, prob doing another study for the requested 4 way stop at Church and Eola Dr

So if you want to see it happen maybe tell everyone you know to drive their car down South Eola Drive and *cross* Church Street since they keep denying it for lack of cross traffic.

[Ivanhoe]

Seems odd they would study the traffic on Eola before 520 is built. Perhaps they’ll factor in the expected increase in residents.