codypet 993 Report post Posted February 6 I know for a fact this wasn't part of the original MOT plan, and man I think this is going to be a big problem. I guess I'll be avoiding the attractions area for a while. https://i4ultimate.com/work-underway-on-temporary-configuration-for-eb-i-4-exits-to-s-r-408-and-south-st/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankStrong 1619 Report post Posted February 6 Why would avoid the attractions area for something that is happening downtown? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codypet 993 Report post Posted February 6 I live just east of downtown off the 408. This would be what I'd have to travel through to get home from the attractions/Millenia area. I was saying it half in jest. I just feel like this is going to cause a huge mess. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankStrong 1619 Report post Posted February 6 I'm sure it will. Thanks for clarifying. Makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spenser1058 4101 Report post Posted March 12 So we make #7 on the list of most aggressive drivers in the U.S. I4 will do that to a person... https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3137818002 From USA Today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFW657 3656 Report post Posted March 12 A study by the makers of the app GasBuddy examined the 30 largest metropolitan areas by population, and concluded these 10 cities have the most aggressive drivers: 1. Los Angeles 2. Philadelphia 3. Sacramento, Calif. 4. Atlanta 5. San Francisco 6. San Diego 7. Orlando, Fla. 8. Detroit 9. Austin, Texas 10. Las Vegas Here's the rest of the list: 11. Charlotte 12. Pittsburgh 13. Phoenix 14. Boston 15. Dallas-Fort Worth 16. Chicago 17. Miami-Fort Lauderdale 18. Baltimore 19. Tampa-St. Petersburg 20. Washington, D.C. 21. San Antonio 22. Houston 23. New York 24. Kansas City 25. St. Louis 26. Denver 27. Portland, Ore. 28. Cincinnati 29. Seattle 30. Minneapolis-St. Paul https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3137818002 Take that, NYC and Miami!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shardoon 232 Report post Posted March 13 After spending every other week in Miami, I have to disagree with this list. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcluley98 2613 Report post Posted March 13 So as Cody alluded to, coming soon over-nights. . . MOT will not exist! This should get interesting. . . https://i4ultimate.com/eastbound-i-4-in-downtown-orlando-closing-multiple-nights-in-march/ Eastbound Interstate 4 (I-4) from Gore Street to South Street is scheduled to close multiple times in the month of March. These nightly closures will occur from 12 a.m. to 5 a.m. on March 11-15. Eastbound I-4 from Gore Street to South Street will also be closing at 11 p.m. on March 28-30 and reopening the following mornings by 5 a.m. These closures are necessary for bridge work at the I-4 and State Road (S.R.) 408 interchange. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmIReal 566 Report post Posted March 14 19 hours ago, dcluley98 said: Eastbound I-4 from Gore Street to South Street will also be closing at 11 p.m. on March 28-30 and reopening the following mornings by 5 a.m That is going to be ugly. I have no idea how many cars actually travel EB I4 between 11p and 5 am, but I'm pretty sure its more than what normally travels Garland throughout the entire day. This, btw, is a Friday and Saturday night. Although that is good for some I think it may be problematic for the drunks after last call trying to exit via Garland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmIReal 566 Report post Posted March 14 Too bad, I thought it was widely agreed Griffin Park needs to go away. "And the whole demolition/moving plan has another snag. There's practically no federal funding, so that means a five to 10-year delay." http://www.fox35orlando.com/news/local-news/demolition-of-government-housing-delayed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrs2 2125 Report post Posted March 20 On 3/12/2019 at 7:10 PM, JFW657 said: A study by the makers of the app GasBuddy examined the 30 largest metropolitan areas by population, and concluded these 10 cities have the most aggressive drivers: 1. Los Angeles 2. Philadelphia 3. Sacramento, Calif. 4. Atlanta 5. San Francisco 6. San Diego 7. Orlando, Fla. 8. Detroit 9. Austin, Texas 10. Las Vegas Here's the rest of the list: 11. Charlotte 12. Pittsburgh 13. Phoenix 14. Boston 15. Dallas-Fort Worth 16. Chicago 17. Miami-Fort Lauderdale 18. Baltimore 19. Tampa-St. Petersburg 20. Washington, D.C. 21. San Antonio 22. Houston 23. New York 24. Kansas City 25. St. Louis 26. Denver 27. Portland, Ore. 28. Cincinnati 29. Seattle 30. Minneapolis-St. Paul https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3137818002 Take that, NYC and Miami!!!! Aggressive drivers... I would agree about LA; motorcyclists drive on the dashed lines and pass drivers whether driving or stalled during rush hour. Chicago is low b/c they have turn signals on expressway ramps; and, the city proper has a nice urban grid and you can make good headway on LSD or major streets if you time it right. Same with 94/90. Orlando- yeas, there's lots of a-holes on our roads. They will shoot you for merely merging onto I-4. Atlanta- I-85, where everybody thinks the speed limit is 85mph... NYC- IMO, would have to be No.1 or 2. You have to be crazy to drive in NYC daily. LA is nothing compared to NYC ala aggressive drivers. Being stuck in rush hour traffic does not equal aggressive NYC driving.. Maybe ask Officers Frank Poncherello and John Baker and see what they think... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFW657 3656 Report post Posted March 20 (edited) 14 minutes ago, jrs2 said: NYC- IMO, would have to be No.1 or 2. You have to be crazy to drive in NYC daily. LA is nothing compared to NYC ala aggressive drivers. Being stuck in rush hour traffic does not equal aggressive NYC driving.. Maybe ask Officers Frank Poncherello and John Baker and see what they think... They agree. "I'm sure glad we're not in New York City!!!" "Me too!!!" . Edited March 20 by JFW657 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mraurora 18 Report post Posted March 21 7 hours ago, jrs2 said: Aggressive drivers... I would agree about LA; motorcyclists drive on the dashed lines and pass drivers whether driving or stalled during rush hour. Chicago is low b/c they have turn signals on expressway ramps; and, the city proper has a nice urban grid and you can make good headway on LSD or major streets if you time it right. Same with 94/90. Orlando- yeas, there's lots of a-holes on our roads. They will shoot you for merely merging onto I-4. Atlanta- I-85, where everybody thinks the speed limit is 85mph... NYC- IMO, would have to be No.1 or 2. You have to be crazy to drive in NYC daily. LA is nothing compared to NYC ala aggressive drivers. Being stuck in rush hour traffic does not equal aggressive NYC driving.. Maybe ask Officers Frank Poncherello and John Baker and see what they think... I wouldn't deem lane splitting as aggressive. It's very common in California and a lot of other countries. And I like driving in Manhattan. It's one of the few remaining places in America where people actually go when the light turns green. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncommon 227 Report post Posted March 21 (edited) 9 hours ago, mraurora said: I wouldn't deem lane splitting as aggressive. It's very common in California and a lot of other countries. And I like driving in Manhattan. It's one of the few remaining places in America where people actually go when the light turns green. Lane splitting is illegal in every state except Cali. It’s definitely aggressive driving by impatient, careless bikers. I’ve never been in California long enough to compare idiot bikers but if they’re anything like the swaths of 40-50 morons doing burnouts and wheelies on the 408 or on Colonial while holding up traffic, then they’re annoying AF. Half of those imbeciles are riding illegally and don’t even have license plates. Edited March 21 by Uncommon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankStrong 1619 Report post Posted March 21 Lane splitting and obnoxious motorcycling are way too common here. On a regular basis I see motorcycles trying to avoid tolls and can't count the number of times I've seen them without plates. I've seen bags tied over plates a lot, as well. I know bikers love to say "it's a few bad seeds ruining it for the rest of us" but since I've lived here in FL I truly believe it is quite the opposite. It seems like a few good seeds can't offset the rest of the bad seeds. The overwhelming majority of bikers on I-4, 408, 436, 528, 417, 520, 429 (all major FL/US roads I use extremely frequently) don't deserve to be licensed drivers on our roads. I come from a family full of past/present motorcycle owners and it is a disgrace to riders everywhere. I called FHP a couple of weeks ago when I was passed on 408 by 4 guys on bikes doing tricks at insanely high speeds. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codypet 993 Report post Posted March 21 1 hour ago, HankStrong said: Lane splitting and obnoxious motorcycling are way too common here. On a regular basis I see motorcycles trying to avoid tolls and can't count the number of times I've seen them without plates. I've seen bags tied over plates a lot, as well. I know bikers love to say "it's a few bad seeds ruining it for the rest of us" but since I've lived here in FL I truly believe it is quite the opposite. It seems like a few good seeds can't offset the rest of the bad seeds. The overwhelming majority of bikers on I-4, 408, 436, 528, 417, 520, 429 (all major FL/US roads I use extremely frequently) don't deserve to be licensed drivers on our roads. I come from a family full of past/present motorcycle owners and it is a disgrace to riders everywhere. I called FHP a couple of weeks ago when I was passed on 408 by 4 guys on bikes doing tricks at insanely high speeds. Most glaring from me was I was driving home from work a few years back and I was behind a motorcyclist approaching the fairbanks curve WB. The traffic was beginning to slow to a crawl and I watched the motor cyclist reach back and pull his license plate up so it was no longer visible from behind and then gun it between the cars that were stopped in traffic. It was the most blatant and premeditated act like that I'd witness. He knew he was wrong and could get in trouble, but if he disguises himself the reward outweighed the risk in his opinion. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jvest55 143 Report post Posted March 21 (edited) Coming directly from NY just last year, Orlando beats NY proper with very aggressive drivers. On my ass in any lane, and I am not driving slow. Edited March 21 by Jvest55 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrs2 2125 Report post Posted March 21 Maybe it's just the thousands of pedestrians that freak me out in NYC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgardnerucf 380 Report post Posted March 21 7 hours ago, HankStrong said: I come from a family full of past/present motorcycle owners and it is a disgrace to riders everywhere. I called FHP a couple of weeks ago when I was passed on 408 by 4 guys on bikes doing tricks at insanely high speeds. Thursday night bike night, be prepared... The pilgrimage from Osceola county to ace cafe will be full throttle. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spenser1058 4101 Report post Posted March 21 12 minutes ago, jgardnerucf said: Thursday night bike night, be prepared... The pilgrimage from Osceola county to ace cafe will be full throttle. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aent 553 Report post Posted March 22 12 hours ago, Uncommon said: Lane splitting is illegal in every state except Cali. It’s definitely aggressive driving by impatient, careless bikers. I’ve never been in California long enough to compare idiot bikers but if they’re anything like the swaths of 40-50 morons doing burnouts and wheelies on the 408 or on Colonial while holding up traffic, then they’re annoying AF. Half of those imbeciles are riding illegally and don’t even have license plates. I wish they'd legalize it, I don't really want to have the motorcycles near me for any more then they need to be. And as shown in California, it doesn't really affect safety at all. Its shocking California of all states is the only one to legalize it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prahaboheme 1378 Report post Posted March 22 2 hours ago, aent said: I wish they'd legalize it, I don't really want to have the motorcycles near me for any more then they need to be. And as shown in California, it doesn't really affect safety at all. Its shocking California of all states is the only one to legalize it. As someone who travels on the 101 from Hollywood to Thousand Oaks daily, I would suggest that the gridlock likely reduces the potential for major safety incidents. Motorcyclists tend to glide through the traffic. That might be a completely different story in a city with less traffic and more opportunity to speed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prahaboheme 1378 Report post Posted March 22 (edited) As an anecdote, an article on lane splitting and it’s possible safety benefits: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-lane-splitting-20180927-story.html%3foutputType=amp Edited March 22 by prahaboheme Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgardnerucf 380 Report post Posted March 22 It's automatic in Thailand and everywhere else pretty much. Why not get them to the front and off and away. Duh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codypet 993 Report post Posted March 22 15 hours ago, jgardnerucf said: Thursday night bike night, be prepared... The pilgrimage from Osceola county to ace cafe will be full throttle. I had a motorcycle rear end me last night and take off. I have a dashcam so OPD has the video and they're investigating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
