389 North (AKA Zoi House) | 41-Story Mixed-Use [Proposed]

[jrs2]

14 minutes ago, JFW657 said:

Nah, I think they've been setting up Port-a-Potties around downtown for the bums and drunks to relieve themselves and get sick in.

Amsterdam has actual urinal sink looking things where you just whip it out and drain...

[spenser1058]

3 minutes ago, jrs2 said:

Amsterdam has actual urinal sink looking things where you just whip it out and drain...

https://youtu.be/j_QLzthSkfM

Whip It!

[Dale]

Article from last July does project early 2020 start.

[spenser1058]

11 minutes ago, Dale said:

Article from last July does project early 2020 start.

A project starting on time. Who knew?

[DreS0803]

Fingers crossed that this starts. X Orlando stated that they plan to break ground in February. If these both rise together it’d be perfect

[Dale]

1 hour ago, DreS0803 said:

Fingers crossed that this starts. X Orlando stated that they plan to break ground in February. If these both rise together it’d be perfect

Man, those two and Church St II waiting in the wings ? That would be like 1990 2.0

[spenser1058]

https://youtu.be/3Bo_adhtnlA

The sad history of dual-use (NFL-MLB) stadia in North America 

Edited January 21, 2020 by spenser1058

[KJHburg]

where is this Zoi tower proposed and I will go by the site and take some photos? 

[spenser1058]

I believe it’s the SE corner of N. Orange Ave. and E. Livingston St.

[orlandoguy]

Doesn’t this project also require the land currently occupied by the Fratelli’s/Club Lit building? If so, I’d imagine they’d already be vacated if work were imminent.

[gibby]

I checked the City permitting website and nothing has been submitted to the City for this property, other than the conceptual zoning approval application in 2018.

[codypet]

I was just watching a documentary on the Pontiac Silverdome.   Oh man what a mess that was.

[codypet]

21 hours ago, dcluley98 said:

Could be staging area for X-Orlando  across the street. 

Or staging for the construction on the NW corner of Robinson and Orange.

[AmIReal]

1 hour ago, codypet said:

Or staging for the construction on the NW corner of Robinson and Orange.

Yes, I believe it is for Orange Robinson Apartments currently u/c.

 

[HankStrong]

On 1/20/2020 at 10:48 AM, jrs2 said:

Amsterdam has actual urinal sink looking things where you just whip it out and drain...

I've used them.  Handy!  Not attractive, but handy!

[AndyPok1]

4 hours ago, codypet said:

I was just watching a documentary on the Pontiac Silverdome.   Oh man what a mess that was.

I mean its a cold week, so the more documentaries to watch on the couch, the better!

[Alyssa]

On 1/15/2020 at 11:26 AM, JFW657 said:

Trying to put two different shaped fields together inside one stadium is a problem nobody has come up with a satisfactory solution for.

If they could come up with a "Steimetz Hall" style solution where they use hydraulics and rails to move a portion of the stands out for baseball then back in for football, maybe that could work.

Of course it would probably cost almost as much as just building a separate stadium.

 

A lot of the "circle" stadiums in the 60's and 70's were built in just that way. You only need to look at the Astrodome to see that. 

[JFW657]

6 minutes ago, Alyssa said:

A lot of the "circle" stadiums in the 60's and 70's were built in just that way. You only need to look at the Astrodome to see that. 

Or the old Atlanta Falcons/Braves stadium.

Fulton County Stadium I believe it was called.

[codypet]

Sidenote, today you can run the bases in the Turner field parking lot where this stadium once stood.  My dad, not wanting to "run" the bases decided to the round the bases in the family's 93 Plymouth Grand Voyager.   It was a hair raising experience to say the least.

Edited January 22, 2020 by codypet

[HankStrong]

2 hours ago, JFW657 said:

Or the old Atlanta Falcons/Braves stadium.

Fulton County Stadium I believe it was called.

 

Three Rivers in Pittsburgh, Veteran's Stadium in Philly, Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati, Busch Stadium in St. Louis, Shea Stadium in NYC, and RFK in DC were all the same basic stadium at Fulton County shown above.

Shea was the first to drop football and be converted to all baseball in 1984.

You could seriously look at any of them and think you were looking at one of the others.  They all had problems with the multi-use aspect.  Having been to four of them personally, they all sucked for whichever sport I was there for.

Demolished in:

• 1997 - Fulton County Stadium
• 2001 - Three Rivers Stadium
• 2002 - Riverfront Stadium
• 2004 - Veteran's Stadium
• 2005 - Busch Stadium
• 2009 - Shea Stadium (extended life by converting to MLB only in 1984 when the NFL left after the 1983 season)
• Future ~2021 - RFK Stadium (although, it ceased to be home to the NFL in 1996 and ceased to be home to MLB in 2007, it has been home to MLS since 1996)

 

[dcluley98]

38 minutes ago, HankStrong said:

• Future ~2021 - RFK Stadium (although, it ceased to be home to the NFL in 1996 and ceased to be home to MLB in 2007, it has been home to MLS since 1996)

RFK has no tenant. DC United moved to Soccer Specific Audi Field in July 2018.  

On September 5, 2019, Events DC announced plans to demolish the stadium by 2021. Officials said the decision would save $2 million a year on maintenance and $1.5 million a year on utilities.

[KJHburg]

I saw no construction on any corner of Orange and Livingston just a fenced in grassy lot.   

[Alyssa]

3 hours ago, HankStrong said:

 

Three Rivers in Pittsburgh, Veteran's Stadium in Philly, Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati, Busch Stadium in St. Louis, Shea Stadium in NYC, and RFK in DC were all the same basic stadium at Fulton County shown above.

Shea was the first to drop football and be converted to all baseball in 1984.

You could seriously look at any of them and think you were looking at one of the others.  They all had problems with the multi-use aspect.  Having been to four of them personally, they all sucked for whichever sport I was there for.

Demolished in:

• 1997 - Fulton County Stadium
• 2001 - Three Rivers Stadium
• 2002 - Riverfront Stadium
• 2004 - Veteran's Stadium
• 2005 - Busch Stadium
• 2009 - Shea Stadium (extended life by converting to MLB only in 1984 when the NFL left after the 1983 season)
• Future ~2021 - RFK Stadium (although, it ceased to be home to the NFL in 1996 and ceased to be home to MLB in 2007, it has been home to MLS since 1996)

 

See? Hank knows  

[AndyPok1]

I don't think anyone is arguing that it can't be done.  Just that it has never been done successfully, and that's why we've moved away from them.

[jgardnerucf]

2 hours ago, Alyssa said:

See? Hank knows

Who doesn't know all that? Lol