389 North (AKA Zoi House) | 41-Story Mixed-Use [Proposed]

[Dale]

19 minutes ago, dcluley98 said:

We have covered this a bunch of times.  Here is the applicable statute: http://leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0333/Sections/0333.07.html

Here is the zoning map: https://orlando.novusagenda.com/AgendaPublic/AttachmentViewer.ashx?AttachmentID=72144&ItemID=42436

 

Thanks.

[shardoon]

Just curious, from the airport zoning maps........ why is the entire county, parts located 10-20 miles from any airport or flight path capped at "up to 549"? 

[TRENCH]

this is a far out thought but I always found the "oh we cant build tall towers because of a airport that lands RC planes is only 5 miles away" to be an excuse to the real reason which could be that the county/city government is scared to build anything heavier than 30 floors as it could be succumbed to a sinkhole (and due to our ground being nothing more than sand) and they dont have time for a large disaster like that. ..

I dont know.. just a wild thought 

[dcluley98]

Sentinel article today has a video animation fly-around of the 3d model: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-bz-orlando-zoi-house-design-20181116-story.html

Looks better in the video than the stills. I think they could refine it a bit, but not that bad for a residential building. There are more subtle details to the design that are hard to see in the rendering stills they released. I think it could turn out pretty nice with a little more refinement.

[Dale]

7 minutes ago, dcluley98 said:

Sentinel article today has a video animation fly-around of the 3d model: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-bz-orlando-zoi-house-design-20181116-story.html

Looks better in the video than the stills. I think they could refine it a bit, but not that bad for a residential building. There are more subtle details to the design that are hard to see in the rendering stills they released. I think it could turn out pretty nice with a little more refinement.

I love it, but hasn’t X Orlando gone to twin towers ?

[nite owℓ]

13 hours ago, W7edwin said:

this is a far out thought but I always found the "oh we cant build tall towers because of a airport that lands RC planes is only 5 miles away" to be an excuse to the real reason which could be that the county/city government is scared to build anything heavier than 30 floors as it could be succumbed to a sinkhole (and due to our ground being nothing more than sand) and they dont have time for a large disaster like that. ..

I dont know.. just a wild thought 

Interesting theory. I've never really paid attention, but are the piles used in Downtown Orlando typically friction piles or do they typically extend down to limestone "bedrock"?? Sometimes I wonder about The Vue...

[IAmFloridaBorn]

21 hours ago, dcluley98 said:

Sentinel article today has a video animation fly-around of the 3d model: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-bz-orlando-zoi-house-design-20181116-story.html

Looks better in the video than the stills. I think they could refine it a bit, but not that bad for a residential building. There are more subtle details to the design that are hard to see in the rendering stills they released. I think it could turn out pretty nice with a little more refinement.

[jrs2]

^^

wow, there are three projects depicted in that rendering/video still.

[prahaboheme]

At least one of the 3 is thoughtfully designed.

[spenser1058]

6 minutes ago, prahaboheme said:

At least one of the 3 is thoughtfully designed.

Maybe we should call this "The Goldilocks Project"

[jrs2]

1 hour ago, prahaboheme said:

At least one of the 3 is thoughtfully designed.

There!  See?  I can actually agree with you on something!

[spenser1058]

9 minutes ago, jrs2 said:

There!  See?  I can actually agree with you on something!

 

[sunshine]

 

Downtown's proposed $140M tower moves forward

https://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/news/2018/11/26/downtowns-proposed-140m-tower-moves-forward.html

 

The project's location at North Orange Avenue and East Livingston Street — along with Golden Sparrow, a trio of proposed nearby apartment towers, and the Bank of America building — could become the "architectural center of downtown Orlando," according to city documents. "The four intersection corners would be filled with two generations of Orlando high-rises that could become the peak of the downtown Orlando skyline," per the documents.

 

 

But then they approved the 10 stories mess next to Bank of A at this architecture centre.  ??!?!?!?!?!?

[Tim3167]

That article also restates the earlier quote from the developer that there is only a slight chance this project will remain that tall.

It seems like in more recent things I’ve read he is embracing the notion of a new tallest.

i hope this isn’t a bunch of excitement for nothing.

[Uncommon]

http://www.fox35orlando.com/news/local-news/-zoi-house-approved-as-orlando-s-tallest-building

 

Looks like Zoi has been officially approved! According to the article, it will be Orlando’s new tallest building, at 467 feet. This will be a great addition to downtown. Hopefully it gets built before another recession stalls the project!

[Dale]

6 minutes ago, Uncommon said:

http://www.fox35orlando.com/news/local-news/-zoi-house-approved-as-orlando-s-tallest-building

 

Looks like Zoi has been officially approved! According to the article, it will be Orlando’s new tallest building, at 467 feet. This will be a great addition to downtown. Hopefully it gets built before another recession stalls the project!

Sweet! I predict the economy holds for 2019.

[Xander]

12 minutes ago, Dale said:

Sweet! I predict the economy holds for 2019.

Not to be the bearer of bad news, but every sign points to a recession. Hopefully they can beat the clock on this one, or else I don't think anything will ever get built on that lot.

[orange87]

When does construction start?

[Dale]

31 minutes ago, Xander said:

33 minutes ago, Xander said:

Not to be the bearer of bad news, but every sign points to a recession. Hopefully they can beat the clock on this one, or else I don't think anything will ever get built on that lot.

Actually, nothing points to an impending recession. The stocks were a needed correction. Feds probably jumped too quickly. Consumer confidence is high, etc.

[dcluley98]

How did this get approved?  It still has to go through ARB again. I have not seen results from ARB yet.  Did it just get the height approved?  Because the final design is not approved to begin construction at this point. 

[Tim3167]

That Fox35 article is from Nov 20

Edited January 3, 2019 by Tim3167

[Uncommon]

16 minutes ago, Tim3167 said:

That Fox35 article is from Nov 20

Whoops, got egg on my face. The news was posted to another site today and I didn’t see the date of the original video.

[Tim3167]

I actually hadn’t seen that article before and there a few new tidbits that I appreciated. I really thirst for any news at all on this project so share away!

[Xander]

20 hours ago, Dale said:

Actually, nothing points to an impending recession. The stocks were a needed correction. Feds probably jumped too quickly. Consumer confidence is high, etc.

Untrue, but alright.

[dcluley98]

Yield curves inverted again today. . . 

I would say employment and leading indicators of activity suggest a recession is not imminent, as in this correction will lead to it.  But a recession will happen eventually, and IMHO, we are closer to a recession in the near future than we are to last.  The stock market is not the economy, but can be a leading indicator of the economy, at times. I still think we are late cycle here and have a few years left of the cycle. It's going to happen eventually, though.