389 North (AKA Zoi House) | 41-Story Mixed-Use [Proposed]

[ucfpatriot18]

450 foot mixed use tower.  300 residential units.   130,000 SQ. Ft of Office.  700 parking spaces.    

[gibby]

Looks great.

[Naqiy90]

I like it, we need more development like this in between the CBD and Uptown so it becomes a continuous urban area, especially with the new pedestrian bridge on 50. I hope it doesn't get diminished in review because this would be the highest skyscraper in Orlando at 450'!

[jrs2]

https://www.bdevelopments.com/copy-of-bali-hai

Zoi House.  I think this is their website.  They're developing stuff down in Miami.

[JFW657]

Cool building.

Name sounds like a Chinese Restaurant.

[jrs2]

23 minutes ago, JFW657 said:

Cool building.

Name sounds like a Chinese Restaurant.

It means "life" in Greek...like that female name Zoe that you see here and there.  No real correct way to spell it I don't think...  

Japanese Koi.  Zoi.

[dcluley98]

I love the ambitious plan for a new tallest building there. I don't love the design itself. Typical "Visor" and awful parking garage pedestal on the east side of the building. Also, there is a complete lack of greenspace and that Oak tree is as good as gone with this plan. Would be nice to see them be able to go even taller, reduce the width of the garage, and keep some greenery. I hope the ARB forces them to do something much better with the design, especially the crown. The ARB has mentioned "Visor Fatigue" many times recently, (see X-Orlando report), and I expect them to force the developer and BB to come up with something more Iconic for the new tallest building in the city. 

[Dale]

Huh ? Whah ?

[IAmFloridaBorn]

@RedStar25

I Like it. I Like it's location. They decided to go skinny so few feet taller than I thought. This is perfect for that area. I'm only worried about the color. Too many Blueish buildings in Orlado.

Downtown Orlando NEEDS this.

Edited September 27, 2018 by IAmFloridaBorn

[Tim3167]

So the big question is does the FAA approve this? This is very close to the Pizutti cube tower site that was denied first at 649’ and then again at a revised 487’. Do you think they would have already gauged the likelihood of approval?

[orange87]

You know, I really don't get this forum sometimes. You guys tried to one-up each other for thirty pages bashing Vertical Medical City, but yet you guys have no problem believing this one is possible. Not even an article was posted in this thread.

[JFW657]

52 minutes ago, dcluley98 said:

I love the ambitious plan for a new tallest building there. I don't love the design itself. Typical "Visor" and awful parking garage pedestal on the east side of the building. Also, there is a complete lack of greenspace and that Oak tree is as good as gone with this plan. Would be nice to see them be able to go even taller, reduce the width of the garage, and keep some greenery. I hope the ARB forces them to do something much better with the design, especially the crown. The ARB has mentioned "Visor Fatigue" many times recently, (see X-Orlando report), and I expect them to force the developer and BB to come up with something more Iconic for the new tallest building in the city. 

It would be nice if they could do an L shape with a rear courtyard around the tree and the parking garage on the parcel behind and to the east where the Quiznos used to be.

[IAmFloridaBorn]

5 minutes ago, orange87 said:

You know, I really don't get this forum sometimes. You guys tried to one-up each other for thirty pages bashing Vertical Medical City, but yet you guys have no problem believing this one is possible. Not even an article was posted in this thread.

There is an article on bungalower. And The developer actually has legs. Vertical Medical City is a joke and will be until that developer has any actual legs or history.

[orange87]

What are the chances this stays a 450 feet when all is said and done? That's the important question.

[JFW657]

9 minutes ago, orange87 said:

You know, I really don't get this forum sometimes. You guys tried to one-up each other for thirty pages bashing Vertical Medical City, but yet you guys have no problem believing this one is possible. Not even an article was posted in this thread.

All just part of our charm.....   

[IAmFloridaBorn]

Does this affect X Orlando you all think?

[dcluley98]

15 minutes ago, orange87 said:

You know, I really don't get this forum sometimes. You guys tried to one-up each other for thirty pages bashing Vertical Medical City, but yet you guys have no problem believing this one is possible. Not even an article was posted in this thread.

VMC is an architect with a dream. Zoi house is a developer with actual money and actual projects currently under construction. 

[orange87]

Could you imagine if both X Orlando AND this end up getting built? This part of downtown will look totally different.

[Dale]

Not holding my breath ...

"This development is in the very early stages with the City and is likely to change as it is reviewed by City staff."

https://bungalower.com/2018/09/26/300-unit-tower-coming-to-livingston-and-orange-avenue/

[Jernigan]

To be fair, when I posted this on the 20th I posted it in the Downtown thread because I didn’t have any context.    This thread was created today following the Bungalower article which was a pretty good article.   Later today, an even more thorough article was posted by GrowthSpotter.   

Could it not happen?  Of course.   But it’s much more newsworthy than VMC of Orlando Central Tower (which, incidentally, were proposed for the same magical lot)

Edited September 28, 2018 by Jernigan

[orange87]

Just now, Dale said:

Not holding my breath ...

"This development is in the very early stages with the City and is likely to change as it is reviewed by City staff."

https://bungalower.com/2018/09/26/300-unit-tower-coming-to-livingston-and-orange-avenue/

When all's said and done it will be a 230 foot Modera Central clone with a visor.

[Jernigan]

From the GS article;

”...the developer would have to get approval from the Federal Aviation Administration for the building height. "It looks like we can go up to 500 feet in that area, so it's not a stretch to go 450," he said.“

[IAmFloridaBorn]

I dont know if I'm on ignore for some people but I like to think this has a great shot due to the zoning heights for certain blocks. FAA will not be able to shoot everything down especially if reasonable.

[orange87]

2 minutes ago, IAmFloridaBorn said:

I dont know if I'm on ignore for some people but I like to think this has a great shot due to the zoning heights for certain blocks. FAA will not be able to shoot everything down especially if reasonable.

Wasn't there a very tall tower proposed in this general area right before the last recession? Did that get FAA approval?

[dcluley98]

Should get approved at that height. See this post I had a while back on FAA restriction: