Portman SouthEnd – Hawkins btw Ashton and Sycamore.

[cltbwimob]

27 minutes ago, markeckert said:

Everyone is outraged by ground crew not moving etc.

I know all the guys that work there as I’ve done work there as well. I’m in the music industry. This is a legendary studio for voiceover and sound design. To name a few they did all the voiceover work for Cars, music for Homeland, and is the home of over 10 emmys and Tele awards.

Charlotte has lost well over half of the studios and venues to apartments or storage centers. Including where James Brown recorded Papas Got A Brand New Bag (yes that was done in charlotte - right were The Gibson in Plaza stands), where Whitney Houston did a few records (off of Monroe road), where REM recorded their first record. The reason why charlotte is not known for all of these records and artists? Everything they made music in has now been torn down.

its forgotten. And everything is beige.

Tremont, Double Door, Chop Shop, among many more venues have all been lost to apartments, when the majority of them could have been developed adjacent and around these venues. Similar to the Polk building - it was possible, but the developers didn’t care. Truly how wonderful would it have been to keep the Polk building? Now we get 14 stories of “whatever.” Same could absolutely be said about our cultural identity regarding these studios and venues.

Everyone on this forum constantly talks about how Nashville, Austin and other cities in our respective size gets more attention.

Nashville and Austin developers understand / or are forced into understanding (more likely) that these cultural sites / businesses are actually an asset for the neighborhood, drive local pride, and makes the neighborhood sexy. I am in Nashville right now on a business trip. Although they too have their own issues, the culture is important as hell here. They just kicked out a developer who was trying to buy up all the studios in Music Row.

Ground crew most likely doesn’t want a sidewalk because having construction noise directly in front of their building, while recording audio for a picky music supervisor in LA with a 3 hour deadline is a total pain in the ass to deal with. 

I understand everyone is annoyed, but this directly contradicts what everyone complains about in the other forum topics regarding Charlotte (culture, reputation to outsiders, etc.)

Audience starts with one or two people slow clapping followed by an eruption into thunderous applause, a standing ovation, and chants of MVP (most valuable post).

[a2theb]

9 hours ago, Miesian Corners said:

That's like saying, "People in America have guns. They should expect they might get shot."

Besides, you shouldn't feel threatened simply by sitting on your front porch.

Yeah but I am referencing petty property crime not gun violence. Maybe I am jaded but I do expect that if I leave valuables visible in my car with the doors unlocked, they will be taken at some point.

 

Okay, I'm done. Good banter everyone. Apologies for dragging this thread way off track. 

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I am astounded that a top sound studio is adjacent to an active rail line and major construction. Obviously I know nothing about sound insulation for professional purposes.

[markeckert]

22 hours ago, tarhoosier said:

I am astounded that a top sound studio is adjacent to an active rail line and major construction. Obviously I know nothing about sound insulation for professional purpose

Edited November 21, 2019 by markeckert

[markeckert]

22 hours ago, tarhoosier said:

I am astounded that a top sound studio is adjacent to an active rail line and major construction. Obviously I know nothing about sound insulation for professional purposes.

So the light rail is nearly 80 feet away, with the closest room being storage. Surrounded by 2 barriers of walls with sound treatment between both barriers, before then isolation rooms (with additional barriers of doubled treated walls.) This would isolate midrange and higher frequencies as the size of them are smaller than the thickness of the wall - and for voiceover work, that is truly all the matters.

Aside from the low 80hz rumble for 2-3 seconds as the lightrail passes - you hear nothing in recordings. Additionally that 80hz> can be EQ’d out as the human voice is nowhere near that range and would not effect the end product to then be sent off.

The construction is a pain in the ass, but again - is further away, and they can have clients come through later at night if tracking must be done in person - this is what I do at my studio in uptown now that there is construction noise across the street. This is what a studio I work at does adjacent to I-85.

The sidewalk is directly in front of the entrance which is the lobby. The lobby does not have this sound treatment (more than likely to save costs initially during the buildout.) The construction sound that close will absolutely get through into the recordings. The sidewalk’s construction will also be a pain in the ass for clients to deal with driving in and out. Having celebrities be annoyed with anything (including a terrible parking situation) can ruin a tracking day. This is the one variable in this entire situation they can absolutely control. So they are controlling it.

This is a VERY weird industry man we just sorta make it happen as best as we can it’s a mess 99% of the time haha but we try. The studios in NYC have it way worse unless you have a 10mil+ buildout. Isolation and treatment construction is really really expensive, especially in more expensive cities. But I understand why groundcrew isn’t down for the sidewalk rn.

Edited November 21, 2019 by markeckert

[Urban Cowboy]

I’ve worked with groundcrew many times for VO and also radio spots - they’re great to work with and it’s fun being in studio. 

They own the building. They’re not sticking it to anyone by not selling. They’re simply retaining ownership and running their business. I don’t see any harm in that.

As for the sidewalk - they have blacktop you can walk across. But I’m surprised the city wouldn’t be able to enforce a sidewalk installation as public right of way? I can understand why the lack of a sidewalk could annoy the public. Don’t understand the not-selling argument.

[ertley]

59 minutes ago, Urban Cowboy said:

They own the building. They’re not sticking it to anyone by not selling. They’re simply retaining ownership and running their business. I don’t see any harm in that.

I think any private owner who chooses not to sell is recognizing his or her inherent right, and developers and planners and everyone else have to respect that, and simply adjust their plans. Period. I actually think *more* individual property owners (although definitely not all) should resist selling if they can, because when individual property owners hold fast, they both help maintain some of the original character of a street and neighborhood, but also force architects and developers to "think outside the box," literally. I know they all want nice square or rectangular plots to lay out the most easily designed and constructed buildings, but a city of nothing but those creates a mid-20th century Brutalist environment that we've for the most part recognized is dispiriting to live in and have turned away from. I'm constantly dismayed by two things that seem to work in tandem:  Developers' (and the city's) willingness to tear down almost anything to make way for new development, and the lack of imagination--or the the prioritization of profit margins--in designing buildings that result in too much mediocrity and sameness. You can build around and behind, and in rare cases even over, existing buildings, and those results are by definition unusual and unexpected. I recognize that cost is a fundamental and inescapable factor in all building projects, but ingenuity and imagination should be too.  In most cases, if you make people try a little harder, they can meet those raised expectations.    

A specific example of something lost (that I didn't even realize until the other day) is the old Radio Center on South Boulevard, just above Hartford, across from that new Blue Line-adjacent development. (I discovered it when I was checking out that development.) The Radio Center is still visible on the Google Maps street view, and it was the coolest, almost oddest, '50s structure that anyone interested in midcentury modern should appreciate, especially because it had a touch of local/naive to it. Why could it have not been incorporated into plans for that large parcel that's now totally scraped for redevelopment? As a compromise, I'd even be happy to let developers take out the actual majority of a structure like that, if they only to keep the street facade. That Radio Center was low enough in height that it would have been totally easy to not only build behind but over its preserved facade. No imagination. 

[Madison Parkitect]

23 hours ago, ertley said:

A specific example of something lost (that I didn't even realize until the other day) is the old Radio Center on South Boulevard, just above Hartford, across from that new Blue Line-adjacent development. (I discovered it when I was checking out that development.) The Radio Center is still visible on the Google Maps street view, and it was the coolest, almost oddest, '50s structure that anyone interested in midcentury modern should appreciate, especially because it had a touch of local/naive to it. Why could it have not been incorporated into plans for that large parcel that's now totally scraped for redevelopment? As a compromise, I'd even be happy to let developers take out the actual majority of a structure like that, if they only to keep the street facade. That Radio Center was low enough in height that it would have been totally easy to not only build behind but over its preserved facade. No imagination. 

Looked for something like that on google maps and couldn't find it. You got an address or a more specific description of where it is?

[KJHburg]

23 minutes ago, Madison Parkitect said:

Looked for something like that on google maps and couldn't find it. You got an address or a more specific description of where it is?

wasn't it where the failed Lidl store site is was on south blvd.

[Guest]

Just now, KJHburg said:

wasn't it where the failed Lidl store site is was on south blvd.

It hasn't failed, it will be one eventually.

[KJHburg]

Just now, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

It hasn't failed, it will be one eventually.

I did mean temporarily I think also they will build a store there.  Just concentrating on locations easier to build and open quicker. 

[Madison Parkitect]

29 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

wasn't it where the failed Lidl store site is was on south blvd.

Oh yeah, where that tattoo shop with the yellow sign was. That was a cool building.

[CarolinaDaydreamin]

32 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

It hasn't failed, it will be one eventually.

Idk I have heard Lidl's US money problems have lead to a lot of sites that were planned to be sold off soon.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, CarolinaDaydreamin said:

Idk I have heard Lidl's US money problems have lead to a lot of sites that were planned to be sold off soon.

I'm going off a Katie Peralta quote from the developer in a tweet. She usually has some good insight into grocery stores, in particular. 

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That building was apartments and a radio station studio broadcast location thus the name Radio Center. That is all I know of it based on someone who grew up in Sedgefield 1960's.

[ertley]

5 hours ago, Madison Parkitect said:

Looked for something like that on google maps and couldn't find it. You got an address or a more specific description of where it is?

It's only available on Street View, and then only intermittently--depending on exactly where you place the avatar, it's still there, gone, or surrounding by fencing for demolition--and soon all traces of it will be gone!

[KJHburg]

from a CBJ subscriber article

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2019/12/06/developer-talks-vision-for-new-food-hall.html

""Atlanta developer Portman Holdings is finalizing the details of plans for 2151 Hawkins, but expect 30,000 square feet to be dedicated to restaurant and retail concepts, says Travis Garland, director of leasing.  The remainder of that 315,000-square-foot tower will house office space. Demolition has begun, with construction slated to ramp up in the first quarter of 2020. Delivery is expected in late summer 2021.The goal is for all components of the building to open at the same time, Garland says. Roughly 15,000 square feet will be dedicated to a food hall, with up to 10 operators. The food hall will open into Sycamore Brewing’s ground floor. ""

 

 

[Madison Parkitect]

On 12/6/2019 at 4:03 PM, KJHburg said:

from a CBJ subscriber article

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2019/12/06/developer-talks-vision-for-new-food-hall.html

""Atlanta developer Portman Holdings is finalizing the details of plans for 2151 Hawkins, but expect 30,000 square feet to be dedicated to restaurant and retail concepts, says Travis Garland, director of leasing.  The remainder of that 315,000-square-foot tower will house office space. Demolition has begun, with construction slated to ramp up in the first quarter of 2020. Delivery is expected in late summer 2021.The goal is for all components of the building to open at the same time, Garland says. Roughly 15,000 square feet will be dedicated to a food hall, with up to 10 operators. The food hall will open into Sycamore Brewing’s ground floor. ""

 

 

With an expanded Sycamore and a 10-operator food hall this project might be as transformative as anything else in South End.

[kermit]

It’s happening. Demo underway

 

[XRZ.ME]

I didn't realized that this parcel is huge until today


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[KJHburg]

I too went by this site today waiting on my friends for a Feliz Navidad meal at a nearby Super place to eat.  y mis fajitas eran maravillosos! 

[Urban Cowboy]

Who is the primary tenant here? I know someone knows!

[Hushpuppy321]

7 hours ago, Urban Cowboy said:

Who is the primary tenant here? I know someone knows!

I think Sycamore Brewery.  Not sure if they have an office tenant yet.

[Urban Cowboy]

I think they do have an office tenant. And everyone is tight lipped. That’s what I’m asking about!

[KJHburg]

33 minutes ago, Urban Cowboy said:

I think they do have an office tenant. And everyone is tight lipped. That’s what I’m asking about!

I really don't know but they said they would go spec if they have to and they are starting construction in first quarter of next year.